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Most married men can only dream about 3-4 times a week. That's plenty and I'm saying that as a man. Anticipation makes it more exciting. He needs to learn how to woo you on those down days and not act like a pouty beyatch. Let him know what a turn-off that is.
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Anonymous wrote:To the pp who went to amp, how much did it cost? Suspect my dh went before covid. Regular amount of cash withdrawn every two weeks. No explanation provided. Can you give more details about prices and schedule etc?
Sorry I didn't see this before. They only quote regular rates for a massage. $80 for an hour. Less for a 1/2 hour. They ask you to shower which I think is strange so I declined and told them I showered before I came there which was true. Maybe there was some kind of shower service I missed out on? Anyway, I tipped another $80 but it wasn't negotiated or asked for. Maybe $50 would have been enough? I don't know but I've paid $125 for a massage at Massage Envy with no HE of course and tipped $20 so $160 for a damn good massage with a HE seemed pretty reasonable. I wasn't bold enough to ask for anything more than that and don't know if it's on the menu but I'll assume the right amount of money could buy more.

I've only gone there twice and the place is shut down now. I'm not looking for another one. The atmosphere there is very sketchy and of course it is illegal so there is that. Every once in a while I read where two or three of these Asian spa type businesses in town get busted the same day so their must be some kind of underground where people know where to find them and the cops allow it to a point until they decide to crack down. This one place I went to has been there for a few decades and always manages to not get busted so they must have the proper connections with the law. This is all my speculation.

It just doesn't seem to me like something that should be illegal when it's just a few extra minutes of an otherwise legal hands-on body service. But yeah, I get it, no woman wants their husband sneaking off for HJs in one of those places. I wouldn't want my wife, if I was married, going to a spa to get fingered either. If I was getting it at home there is no way I'd go there.

I know there are a few women here who always chime in loudly that men with great sex lives at home will still seek it outside the home just for variety but I doubt that's a universal truth. More the rare exception. Us men are pretty lazy when it comes to that. And cheap. When I was married and satisfied I would never have taken that step, even out of curiosity and I had opportunities. Not even during dry spells that I knew were temporary. If I thought the situation was hopeless and a sexless marriage was my only future, then I'd be highly tempted, even motivated but paying for HJs can't be anything but a very short-term relief. There is no future in it. There needs to be a more permanent change in circumstances. Just my opinion.

You say that now, but you aren't married, so you have no idea if that is how you would react if you were married.
I've been married and I've been through periods in marriage where there was a sexual drought. We all have. So yes, I do know how I'd react if I were married again. If it became a permanent situation, I'd look for a permanent solution, not endless AMP HJs the rest of my life.
My wife points them out to me if I don't see them first. Then she teases me for missing it, as if to say I'm off, not paying attention.

Your man is just a man. How he feels about you has nothing to do with his admiration for the female form he encounters. But, the guy does need to be discreet first of all by not leering or being seen looking. And second, he needs to be a gentleman around you and just turn it off while you are with him. He doesn't have to look all the time.
67 M and been here at least 10 years
Yes, in my dreams. And once in the form of another person that was first noticed by a friend of mine who was with me.
It's the way it is and I'm fine with it. Women have no game at all. I've been on Bumble for a few years where they have to make the first move. 19 times out of 20, the first message is, "hi." Or maybe two words and I have plenty of things in my profile she could ask about or comment on. But women are lazy when it comes to this. Because they've always been approached and never had to take a risk of rejection. It's better how it is. How it's always been. I'm pretty aggressive about approaching a woman I'm interested in so it doesn't bother me.
Let the lawn go. Practice as if it's just you and the kids now. Just cut him out and see if he cares. You will get your answer.
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Anonymous wrote:No! You don’t share a household, you can’t see each other. Seriously, it’s not complicated. Stay at home.


Oh bullshit. My GF and I are going back and forth to each other's house nearly every day. Do you really think a couple in a LTR are going to separate during this time and not see each other?


DP. Obviously we can’t stop you, but don’t kid yourself that you’re social distancing,
My girlfriend needs her daily dose of vitiman D to stay healthy
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Anonymous wrote:Well, OP, I am a man in a similar boat as you but I had an affair - having one now. Sleeping in the guest room too. I tried everything, then I realized that my wife just is fine with the status quo and really has no sexual desire at all (or for me, it doesn't really matter).

It's not ideal but I am with my family and we get along better oddly enough. I assume she suspects something, she isn't that naive to think a man with options is going to be celibate.

What is your hang up about an affair? Worst that happens is you get caught and divorce anyway. It's all no fault. And perhaps when you have a spring in your step again, she will find you more attractive.


Are you kidding me? You're encouraging someone else to have an affair like it's no big deal? Hello, it's wrong if your wife hasn't agreed to it.

What if this happened to your daughter and she's hurt? Whose side will you take at that time: your daughter or the cheater? I'm serious: Will your loyalty be with your daughter?

Y o u are a sociopath to talk so n poo nonchalantly about encouraging someone else to cheat.
OMG it's sociopath guy. Did you forget, narcisstic?
Anonymous wrote:If a man tells you he has an open marriage, just confirm it with his wife before you sleep with him.
I had permission in my marriage but my spouse was clear she didn't want any communication at all with my APs. If they needed permission I was out of luck. Fortunately it was never an issue.
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Anonymous wrote:“Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.”


I like this.

And, it might not seem like it now but good riddance!! He seems horrible.


She hasn't told us anything about him except that he gave back his Christmas gift and announced that he wants out. I can read into that either way. I question just how horrible she could be that this man can't stand another day in his house with her. How horrible could she be that he made the hard, painful decision to leave the house to her and move out to his own place (while still responsible for the mortgage and any credit card bills or anything else in their name) and have to become a visiting parent? I'm sorry but I'm not automatically sympathetic.
Anonymous wrote:We’ve only been married for 3 years and we have a two year old. He moved out the day after Christmas. He gave me back the gift I bought him for Christmas and told me that I don’t put any thought into the gifts I get him, he’s no longer in love with me, and he refuses to go into a new year/decade being married to me. I’ve had time to process all of this, but it still hurts like hell. I honestly think there’s another woman because this came out of nowhere. I’m sure I can take care of the mortgage on my own, but I’m worried about other bills as the mortgage is most of one paycheck. Someone tell me everything will be okay!


There it is again. Another woman claiming this just "came out of nowhere." I'm calling total BS on this. Do you mean to tell me that the days leading up to this bombshell were all marital bliss, including your sex life, without a clue that anything was wrong? And then he just dropped this bomb on you? Yeah, it had to be another woman stealing your man away. I'm sure it has nothing to do with you and you have always been the perfect wife.
Dumbest post of the year so far. You are a lost cause if men have to explain to you our basic need for attraction.
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