Keto: Thread for Group Starting 6 May

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll follow along. I’ve been doing lazy Keto since August 2018. Starting weight was 294, current weight is 227. The last few weeks I’ve had a few bad days and trying to get back on the horse.

A question I’ve been trying to get answered, maybe someone can help. Can you get into ketosis without the meeting fat requirements in my macros calculations?

I have the same question!

No. Ketosis is achieved through eliminating carbs. Meet your protein requirements, limit your carbs, add fat for satiety, but not needed.

Thanks! This is what i was hoping to hear.

Why?

Because, generally I'm not meeting my daily fat requirements and I was concerned it was keeping me from reaching ketosis (which is the goal of the keto diet).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the fats are for safety. Ketosis is not harmful but a high protein diet can create ketoacidosis which is very harmful and can be life threatening. Its more likely to occur with ketones present and a high protein diet. If you can't carbs and you don't eat many fats then you are eating a high protein diet. If you limit both protein and carbs then you are left with fat.

I’m pretty sure this is incorrect, but if you have a cite, it would be helpful to confirm.

[Anonymous]

Sylvia checking in. Today’s menu:

Late Morning snack: hard boiled egg
Lunch: romaine with bacon, turkey, scallions, blue cheese, cucumbers, tomatoes and oil/vinegar.
Snack just now: some parm crisps and Flackers.
Dinner: outer aisle pizza crust with garlic butter, cheese Pizza blend, spinach and mushrooms. Saving some calories for a vodka soda.

A question: are you all managing calories along with your macros? I work out every day and i’m pretty hungry by late afternoon. I’m finding it hard to keep the calories low while getting enough fat to fight the hunger. On the other hand, I always surpass my protein limit. FWIW, I have the ketone pee sticks. I’ve read a lot of conflicting info on how effective they are. But they’ve shown I am producing ketones.

[Anonymous]

I just googled Keto green smoothie and a bunch of things came up! - Ines

[Anonymous]

Greta here checking in. I count macros using Carb Manager. I do not count calories. I tend to eat the same things day after day (I actually prefer it that way) so I now know the carbs in each thing and can generally stay in Ketosis without a lot of pre-planning.

Yesterday -

Breakfast - americano with heavy cream
Lunch - grilled shrimp and small kale salad
Dinner - wedge salad, steak with butter, creamed spinach

I try to eat at least 3 cups of leafy greens per day. I take a magnesium supplement and I drink a glass of electrolyte beverage every day.

For inspiration I follow Leanne Vogel on IG and listen to her podcast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the fats are for safety. Ketosis is not harmful but a high protein diet can create ketoacidosis which is very harmful and can be life threatening. Its more likely to occur with ketones present and a high protein diet. If you can't carbs and you don't eat many fats then you are eating a high protein diet. If you limit both protein and carbs then you are left with fat.

I’m pretty sure this is incorrect, but if you have a cite, it would be helpful to confirm.

My understanding (of course I’m not a doctor) is that it’s extremely hard to cause ketoacidosis unless you’re a Type 1 diabetic - in which case it can be deadly.

[Anonymous]

Can I ask a question about Paleo pancakes from Costco? Is that close enough to keto? I got this mix from Costco, Birch Blenders, can you actually eat 5 pancakes(no syrup) and still lose weight? Doesn't seem right to me. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I ask a question about Paleo pancakes from Costco? Is that close enough to keto? I got this mix from Costco, Birch Blenders, can you actually eat 5 pancakes(no syrup) and still lose weight? Doesn't seem right to me. Thanks.

Just depends on how it fits into your day. 5 net carbs per 2 pancakes sounds good to me. May have to try it.

[Anonymous]

Lego here.

Update -- no weight loss. The rest of the team?

I have been very lax about carb intake as you know -- no grains, no sugar, and only berries but over 30 carbs a day. In fact, I don't count carbs, which was fine because it was the first week.

After a week, however, I have not lost even a half pound, not even water weight. So I decided that I'm going to "restart" on Monday and keep under 20 grams a day so I can really give it a try. First, I am going to enjoy mother's day with my favorite apple/celery juice and almond/coconut pancakes with stevia and cream cheese -- still no grains, sugar, or carb-heavy foods since the cravings are gone and I don't want them back.

This first week wasn't hard at all for me (heavy cream in coffee -- who can go wrong?) but if ketosis means that the fat "melts" away, that is not happening. Thinking about what I've been eating -- creamy coffee, butter soaked eggs, avocado fried in avocado oil (yum!), I'm surprised I'm not gaining weight.

I do feel better, less tired and stronger, and I "feel" thinner but I'm not losing weight. The weirdest part is that I am calorie counting and I think I should be losing weight -- at least something since I'm doing the two 600 calorie days. And my son "Lego Jr" and husband think I look better too.

If the 20 grams carb count week doesn't work, the week after, I'll eliminate nuts and dairy which have been my week spot -- I soak nuts in hot water and add cream and make "cereal". It's filling my cereal craving.

I think to lose weight in ketosis, there needs to be some calorie counting and I didn't take it seriously enough.

Has anyone else lost weight?

[Anonymous]

Sylvia here.
From what i’ve read I understand there does need to be a calorie deficit to lose weight doing keto. But i’m still learning so who knows.
I’m down 6 lbs since May 1st. But most of it was first week water weight.
What’s worked for me so far:
Using the carb manager app.
My calorie intake jumps between 1300 and 1500. But generally around 1400.
Net carbs are between 20-25 per day.
Daily exercise such as running, Solidcore, etc.

A tip I read is to measure yourself — waist, thighs, etc, because the scale will sometimes stall but the measurements will shrink. I haven’t done that yet but am going to.

Still so hungry in the afternoons :/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I ask a question about Paleo pancakes from Costco? Is that close enough to keto? I got this mix from Costco, Birch Blenders, can you actually eat 5 pancakes(no syrup) and still lose weight? Doesn't seem right to me. Thanks.

Just depends on how it fits into your day. 5 net carbs per 2 pancakes sounds good to me. May have to try it.

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Hi, Sylvia,

Thank you. I just found a website that describes this --

https://www.sharecare.com/health/exercise-weight-loss/how-long-start-see-changes

It can take 4-6 weeks to see the loss on a scale. Arg. It is frustrating but that makes sense since my clothes are fitting better and I am exercising.

I am eating about 2000 on my "keto" days but since I'm eating only
500 on my low-cal days and switched to 4:3, that should average at 1400. According to Fitbit, I burn 2000k per day. There should be some sort of weight loss.

When does the water weight fall?

-Lego

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi, Sylvia,

Thank you. I just found a website that describes this --

https://www.sharecare.com/health/exercise-weight-loss/how-long-start-see-changes

It can take 4-6 weeks to see the loss on a scale. Arg. It is frustrating but that makes sense since my clothes are fitting better and I am exercising.

I am eating about 2000 on my "keto" days but since I'm eating only
500 on my low-cal days and switched to 4:3, that should average at 1400. According to Fitbit, I burn 2000k per day. There should be some sort of weight loss.

When does the water weight fall?

-Lego

Hey Lego. Many people don’t lose water weight. I did EMP180 before and had my water, fat, and muscle clinically measured each week and never saw more than a 2% decline in water distribution (not even first week). I am told this is a good thing. I only lost fat each week (which is the goal).

-Andi

[Anonymous]

Greta here. As I mentioned before I lost 25 pounds so far on Keto (started in January). I did lose about 5 pounds in the first week but it also probably depends on how much you need to lose. I have plenty more to go. So from where I was starting 5 seemed good.

Right now I’m considering my DH’s offer to get me whatever I want for dinner and whether I should go off plan...

[Anonymous]

Aria here. Hope everyone had a nice weekend.

Think I did ok food-wise despite eating out quite a bit. I am always worried about hidden sugars and other bad ingredients in things despite trying to make good choices.

I am 12 days in today and have definitely lost some weight, but am pretty convinced my scale is off. I started at 159 and as of today I am 151, so 8 lbs down. One day last week my scale said 144 which would have been amazing but clearly didn’t make sense. Some days it is up and others it’s down. I am taking one of my kids for a check up on Thursday and will use their scale for an official weigh in.