+2 Marriages are lasting longer than ever because of longevity. Staying married to the same person for 60+ years is a tall order for most normal humans. |
THAT's an absurd statement. All studies say that married men get it more regularly than single men. Do you have anything other than anecdotal evidence? |
I think it can work for those who can see long term benefits. It's always the same answer: who can see the future and then be patient to work through the today to get to the goals wins (there have been some experiments with young kids that has shown that). There are benefits to you later in life and also to the next generation in staying together. Your happiness is on you and that is the realization that is a game changer. Some of that is also lifecycles when happiness dips at some times and then goes up again over time. Happiness typically rises over time anyway (after mid life) and so would you have become happier with time anyway if you hadn't divorced? Just a different viewpoint to consider. |
NP here, that's a useless statement. At what point in a marriage? First couple years? Sure. Ages 45 and up? No way, half of marriages are having sex once a month or less by age 50. That's the age - mid life - when the affairs start happening. I don't disagree that it's a chicken and egg question of whether the sex died and then the connection, or vice versa. |
Thanks for your concern. I like my current arrangement. I'm not looking to date a bunch of women. Just have regular sex with one. My W would be my first choice but she has chosen another path for us as far as sex goes. I have no desire to divorce her and I'm not "visiting" my children every other week. This arrangement that you see as sick behavior keeps our family and my marriage together. |
Your response is only about you and your convenience. Your wants and your happiness is all that counts. Are you going to make sure that you won't divorce your wife later in life and keep her happy otherwise all the time, even after your kids leave home? Are you going to be sure you won't have the "feels" for anyone else? If so, more power to you. Otherwise, you are cheating your wife out of her future. Go have all the sex you want after divorce if you don't want to date anyone else. Let your wife seek her future as well since you are already taking care of your now and future. You are selfish, not altruistic. |
If you're looking for an argument, I don' have one to give. I never said I am altruistic. My cheating is only about me and my desire to have sex. It has nothing to do with her except that she started this ball rolling by completely closing the door to sex. That is all about her just as this is all about me. My wants and happiness is not all that counts. I do what I can to keep her happy and by most every measure, she is happy. And she is very happy to never have sex again and to not have me make an issue of it anymore. Maybe she will come around some day and we can resume. I'm not counting on it but I'll be ready if it happens. The same if she even brings it up and says she wants to work on it. I'll stop cheating immediately and help work it out. There are zero signs of that happening but the door is always open. I'd still rather have sex with my wife than anyone else. Even half as much as I'm getting now. I'm not cheating her out of her future. She chooses a future that includes a sexless marriage and I'm dealing with that in my own way. I'm not cheating her out of anything in the present that she wants. |
Bluntly, you are a selfish, narcissistic axxhole. Men like you remind me how grateful I am to have a husband who is truly a good person with integrity as a partner and parent to my kids. The bottom line is you have a massive character defect and that's all on you and has nothing to do with your wife or how much sex she is interested in having with you. You are not a good partner or even parent, of course she has no interest in sleeping with you. That's a result of your character defect, not the cause of it. |
Listen, simple questions: Q1: will you make sure you won't divorce your wife later in life and keep her happy (as you state you do) all the time, even after your kids leave home? Q2: Are you sure you won't have the "feels" for anyone else in the future? If you are uncertain about either of these answers, you need to tell your wife and give your wife choices. You aren't doing right by her even though you state you are. You don't value her at all. It's a horrible way to treat your wife. |
Exactly. He wants to frame this as he's doing this for the good of his wife and family. Just no. He's just selfish and is an a-hole to his wife. |
This is how ALL normal men with normal libidos think. And lots of women with healthy libidos too would agree. Nothing wrong with his integrity. It’s really just YOU who are the anomaly, thinking that a spouse can stop having sex and still have a lasting monogamous marriage?!?!! Nope. Any abnormal sexless spouse who “objects to cheating” must initiate divorce, otherwise it’s a de-facto DADT marriage just like PP has. His wife must be grateful for the affair partner responsible for saving their marriage. |
If he still needs a platonic room mate female friend and he remains content with a sex only affair, then maybe their marriage can last after the kids are gone? But who knows maybe he gets attached to the woman he’s sleeping with. Nobody can be certain how this plays out. His sexless wife maybe should have considered these issues herself, prior to being “done with sex” but she’s made her choice and time will tell how that goes for her. Not really your concern, and you cannot blame him for her decisions. |
Your analysis is embarrassing and reflects low intellect. What you set up is a false dichotomy. Any spouse unhappy with their sex life is free to ask for a divorce or some other disclosed arrangement. How thick are you? Why can't you understand that? |
I don't even respond to that guy anymore because his logic is faulty and he is a troll. I just ignore his comments since he's a troll. |
Yes either spouse is equally free to ask for a divorce, or to take unilateral action in regards to sex. Just as she lost interest in sex, he lost interest in monogamy. No dichotomy at all. It’s equal freedom for both spouses Why would he divorce? She’s a good room mate and she wants to stay married. |