I appreciate you going down with the ship of your poor logic here. |
There is no symmetry here bc men and women do not react the same way to this kind of news. Women forgive and stay married usually for money stability intact family. Men OTOH go ballistic can become violent and usually divorce their cheating lying spouse. |
Not the PP you're responding to, but this makes no sense, as I'm sure you recognize. You are imposing this information on another person who might not want it. You wanted to know, which is your right. But someone else not wanting to know doesn't make her "avoidant", and your sweeping away her wishes because you can't see any other outlook is just solipsistic. I wouldn't tell if I were in that situation because I don't like to inflict pain on others. Yes, the cheater ultimately bears that responsibility, but I can limit that pain by holding back, even though I might want to lash out. |
This logic is basically . . .
The bad thing wasn't that I robbed the bank. The bad thing is that you called the cops on me . . . The bad thing wasn't that I beat you up. The bad thing was that you went to the hospital and let them investigate what happened . . . The bad thing wasn't that I spent all of our joint funds on gambling. The bad thing is that you didn't keep it quiet so I could keep my reputation intact . . . If you read OW forums you see that they post about the innocent/unsuspecting BW as much as they post about the MM and their "relationship." It's as much about the triangulation and the competition as it is about the warm fuzzy feelings. And look I get it . . . there's a real biological drive to "mate poach." Alpha males are probably already taken so their established mates need to be ousted in order to secure someone of high standing. It makes sense that the primitive part of your brain would go there. But don't try to dress it up with pretzel logic to turn "doing whatever you want because it feels good" into some kind of moral imperative. Just own that you did it because you could and it felt good and you didn't care about hurting anyone else because you just manipulate others until they stop whining to you about their hurt feelings. And if you get exposed for who you are, then at least have the spine to stand tall and say, yeah, I did that. Don't cry, "The BW snitched on me and that's vengeful and psychotic!" because if those terms apply to her then much, much worse applies to you. |
If you have a "don't ask, don't tell" marriage, then you have an open marriage that depends upon details not being shared. If that works for you, great. But you know that that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about two partners who have agreed to monogamy but one of them has changed the rules and not clued in the other partner. "Don't tell her because she might have wanted an unspoken open marriage but never mentioned it to her partner!" is . . . your actual argument? |
Your whole problem is you are viewing this as being motivated by revenge against the OW instead of compassion for the other betrayed spouse. |
What if it were the AP themselves who let you know? Would you appreciate it then? |
I agree with you, but I also think that the messenger's motivations for speaking the truth don't really change the moral calculus. If you steal the nuclear codes, it doesn't really matter if the person who turned you in did it for personal gain, love of country, a desire to protect innocent lives, or plain old schadenfreude. And it's wildly hypocritical to insert yourself into someone else's marriage and then spend a lot of time judging the person you helped betray for how they react to it. "Sure sure, I slept with your husband, but let's talk about how YOU didn't keep totally quiet about it because that's where the real drama is!" |
The thing is the betrayed spouses were squarely in the situation whether they knew it or not. There is no staying out of it. |
Well are we going to call her psycho and a b@tch for telling? Yes. I’d want to know. Period. I don’t care who tells me. If she’s pissed he dumped her and tells me- fine. I’d want to know. |
Yeah. It doesn’t go over too well when you try to extract sympathy from the woman whose husband you were banging for years. Let’s talk about how you were in a bad place blah blah blah. Yeah as her life is going up in flames I’m sure she really gives 2 f”@&ks why you sat on her husband’s D for years. |
Yep. These people are out of their Frickin self-centered, no empathy, slutty, selfish minds. |
Yes. Why wouldn’t I? I need to know the truth if my marriage and the fact you might have STIs. Nasty. Yes- don’t care who the messenger is. It would be much appreciated, no matter their motive. |
Well then why are women cheating and taking that risk? It’s certainly not the betrayed wife’s problem. You don’t want your husband to find out and divorce you so you might have to get a job: don’t cheat. |
Amen, sister. |