Hopefully times have changed and our collective memories will be longer. I hate that celebrities tend to get a free pass for whatever bad behavior they have too.Anonymous wrote:Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist. He shows up at all kinds of events, award shows, etc. No one seems to remember he raped a young women. It's sad......
what crash test dummies? I thought they used bags of sand.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh my heart aches for this family. Looking at pictures of this boy in People makes me think of my son. I just want to scoop him up and make it all better.
I can't even fathom what his poor parents are going through.
Nothing in the world will ever bring them peace or closure, but I do hope the investigation helps identify what exactly when wrong that day.
Wow, I would say it all went wrong when somebody cooked up the idea, somebody agreed to build it, and somebody agreed to ride it under the assumption that it was safe despite the obviously unsafe appearance. The poster who said the initial problems were with hoisting the rafts missed the info that the crash Test dummies were decapitated.
I'm not sure that's true since they're married, is it? I thought assets and debts belonged to both marriage partners equally??Anonymous wrote:My mom has a similar spending problem but my dad has financial resources. He is retired and pays all the household expenses, health care, etc. She has a part time job that pays he car payment and spending $. For years my dad has paid off her credit cards and finally realized that if she maxes them out, and her credit stinks, she can't get any more. and it's in her name, not his so he's not responsible for the debt.
I say all this to say, don't sweat it, encourage others to let her keep her secret cards and at some point she won't get anymore credit. Her problem, not yours.
one pound w/o the half dozen D batteries which add another pound or so. Those flashlights are badasses. I can't imagine a scrawny kid being able to swing it with the necessary momentum. I really am not sure if I could either and I played high school softball. That blow was caused by someone who knew what they were doing and did it purposefully.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The autopsy detailed that her head blow was significant enough to knock a grown man down. A little boy and woman would not be able to do that. Also, the garrote was homemade, and my guess is only a man with military knowledge like John would be able to do that. If anything, the Beth Holloway relationship was probably him ingratiating himself intentionally with another victim so he can look like a good guy/innocent parent. Do you think he would be crazy enough to tell her? Of course not. I think Patsy was the only one who knew but she did nothing because she did not want Burke to be alone if his father was imprisoned and she died of cancer. Patsy died from the guilt and the horror of realizing she married a monster. She should have at least reported the molestation. She had to know because she took JB to the pediatrician lots of times for vaginal issues.
Actually all of the investigators on the matter thought either patsy or Burke could have delivered the blow. It's possible with a heavy weapon to inflict that kind of blow even if you're a woman or an almost 10 year old. It's like swinging a baseball bat. Momentum. It's entirely possible that patsy or Burke hit her.
But they suspect that the weapon used was a flashlight. I have a hard time picturing a 9 year old boy swinging a flashlight hard enough to inflict this kind of damage. It's too short a weapon to get the kind of momentum needed to inflict this injury.
I have a hard time imagining a mother crashing a flashlight down hard enough to crack her own child's skull. Ditto the father.
That would have to be a purposeful, direct and powerful blow. And if it happened in the kitchen I would think that the whole house would have heard it.
The flashlight that the investigators found in the kitchen isn't your average flashlight. It was a long-handled MAG light. Made of steel or aluminum - very heavy. I do believe Burke hit JB with the flashlight as she was sitting there, eating her pineapple. The second investigator on Reddit (the one who wrote, "Foreign Faction") also implied that Burke's toy trains were used in the cover-up / staging. Whether she was sexually assaulted with the toy trains () or just physically assaulted, he points to the trains as one primary reason that Burke was never ruled out.
When I google "long handled MAG light" the flashlights that pop up all seem to weigh around 1 pound. Anyone have any idea how much the Ramsey flashlight weighed?
You realize it's possible to disagree with someone without resorting to childish name calling, right? Would you let your kid call someone stupid just because they disagreed with a theory behind a news article even though no one actually knows what really happened? I certainly hope not.Anonymous wrote:mdoodlebug wrote:you're assuming that all of this happened at the same time by the same person. mom could have totally cleaned her up after wetting the bed and intruder could have been lurking in a closet or in the basement and injured her skull after parents were in bed. I think it was someone who knew the dad through work, hence knowing the amount of the bonus, and either had it in for him or was obsessed w/ the little girl. (Or both.)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regarding the intruder theory - you left out the part where she wet her bed.
Weirdly enough, I recall reading somewhere that JonBenet's bed linens were not wet. I don't know if that's true or not.
Also the pee on the carpet in the basement.... It must have been pretty darned noticeable for the cops to have noticed it. If JonBenet had peed her bed, would she also have been able to soak the carpet downstairs also?
It's pretty common for the bladder to void upon death. They think she was strangled and died on that carpet. So at that time, she lost control of her bladder. The sheets were apparently soaked with urine. She was changed and had on new underwear and had been washed down. The intruder would have had to have been all over the house, which is highly highly unlikely. He would have had to: get John Benet from the third floor in her room. Get some underwear there maybe? Get some hair ties because she had a new hairdo. He also would have had to mess up her bathroom. He then took her to the kitchen via the stairs, getting decorations in her hair so apparently he's carrying her at a weird angle. Then he fed her pineapple and water without leaving any prints on anything. Wrote a note then or later with things from the house. While Jon Benet was just sitting there waiting to be killed. Seems odd. She was 6. Then, she is bashed in the head. Seems that the experts agreed that was with the flSjlight or possibly a golf club. So, then he carries her down the stairs to the basement. He then has to find the wine cellar. Make a garrote with stuff from the house. Strangle her on the carpet. Then sexually assault her. Then wipe her down. Then change her underwear and put on her wet pajama pants. Also seems that the size 12 underwear came from the basement in a wrapped present because they didn't find any of the rest of the pack in John b's underwear draw. So the intruder would have had to have unwrapped the correct present and hide the rest. Then he got John b's blanket and favorite doll nightie, which had blood on it, from the dryer upstairs. Laid it on her. Found some tape and tapes her mouth after she was dead. Then back up the stairs to lay the note on the bottom of the stairs and then, out the door.
So that sounds unlikely, right?
That's stupid sorry. The clean up was after the sexual assault. Wiping off the blood. The underwear were clean. The investigators know she was killed on the carpet and urinated on it at that time.
you're forgetting how many people were crawling all over the crime scene and contaminating it. People were coming and going and the police were completely inept at collecting evidence, let alone keeping the crime scene secure. Intruder could have walked right out the front door with all the people milling about. No one would have noticed...especially if it was someone the family knew.Anonymous wrote:So an intruder was in that house for hours, up and down three levels, killing, sexually assaulting, possibly feeding pineapple to a 6 year old, writing pages of a ransom note....no one hear a thing and the intruder left no footprints, no fingerprints, no hair, no trace. Just vanished.
Sorry, the intruder theory makes no sense. Never has.
you're assuming that all of this happened at the same time by the same person. mom could have totally cleaned her up after wetting the bed and intruder could have been lurking in a closet or in the basement and injured her skull after parents were in bed. I think it was someone who knew the dad through work, hence knowing the amount of the bonus, and either had it in for him or was obsessed w/ the little girl. (Or both.)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Regarding the intruder theory - you left out the part where she wet her bed.
Weirdly enough, I recall reading somewhere that JonBenet's bed linens were not wet. I don't know if that's true or not.
Also the pee on the carpet in the basement.... It must have been pretty darned noticeable for the cops to have noticed it. If JonBenet had peed her bed, would she also have been able to soak the carpet downstairs also?
It's pretty common for the bladder to void upon death. They think she was strangled and died on that carpet. So at that time, she lost control of her bladder. The sheets were apparently soaked with urine. She was changed and had on new underwear and had been washed down. The intruder would have had to have been all over the house, which is highly highly unlikely. He would have had to: get John Benet from the third floor in her room. Get some underwear there maybe? Get some hair ties because she had a new hairdo. He also would have had to mess up her bathroom. He then took her to the kitchen via the stairs, getting decorations in her hair so apparently he's carrying her at a weird angle. Then he fed her pineapple and water without leaving any prints on anything. Wrote a note then or later with things from the house. While Jon Benet was just sitting there waiting to be killed. Seems odd. She was 6. Then, she is bashed in the head. Seems that the experts agreed that was with the flSjlight or possibly a golf club. So, then he carries her down the stairs to the basement. He then has to find the wine cellar. Make a garrote with stuff from the house. Strangle her on the carpet. Then sexually assault her. Then wipe her down. Then change her underwear and put on her wet pajama pants. Also seems that the size 12 underwear came from the basement in a wrapped present because they didn't find any of the rest of the pack in John b's underwear draw. So the intruder would have had to have unwrapped the correct present and hide the rest. Then he got John b's blanket and favorite doll nightie, which had blood on it, from the dryer upstairs. Laid it on her. Found some tape and tapes her mouth after she was dead. Then back up the stairs to lay the note on the bottom of the stairs and then, out the door.
So that sounds unlikely, right?