Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently, NJ and PA have strict rules in place regarding inspections. Makes me feel better about our yearly trip to Great Adventure!

All these stories had me a little nervous, TBH.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/thrill-ride-accidents-spark-demands-regulation-145059427.html


I was just at Six Flags Great Adventure....multiple times, a sensor on the seat belt/lap bar system would go off and the employees would ensure the light would be off by tightening everything before the ride left the station for various riders.


So great. I'd be willing to pay extra for my ticket to know that safety is a priority.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ugh my heart aches for this family. Looking at pictures of this boy in People makes me think of my son. I just want to scoop him up and make it all better.

I can't even fathom what his poor parents are going through.

Nothing in the world will ever bring them peace or closure, but I do hope the investigation helps identify what exactly when wrong that day.


Wow, I would say it all went wrong when somebody cooked up the idea, somebody agreed to build it, and somebody agreed to ride it under the assumption that it was safe despite the obviously unsafe appearance. The poster who said the initial problems were with hoisting the rafts missed the info that the crash Test dummies were decapitated.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh my heart aches for this family. Looking at pictures of this boy in People makes me think of my son. I just want to scoop him up and make it all better.

I can't even fathom what his poor parents are going through.

Nothing in the world will ever bring them peace or closure, but I do hope the investigation helps identify what exactly when wrong that day.


Wow, I would say it all went wrong when somebody cooked up the idea, somebody agreed to build it, and somebody agreed to ride it under the assumption that it was safe despite the obviously unsafe appearance. The poster who said the initial problems were with hoisting the rafts missed the info that the crash Test dummies were decapitated.
what crash test dummies? I thought they used bags of sand.
Anonymous
doodlebug wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh my heart aches for this family. Looking at pictures of this boy in People makes me think of my son. I just want to scoop him up and make it all better.

I can't even fathom what his poor parents are going through.

Nothing in the world will ever bring them peace or closure, but I do hope the investigation helps identify what exactly when wrong that day.


Wow, I would say it all went wrong when somebody cooked up the idea, somebody agreed to build it, and somebody agreed to ride it under the assumption that it was safe despite the obviously unsafe appearance. The poster who said the initial problems were with hoisting the rafts missed the info that the crash Test dummies were decapitated.
what crash test dummies? I thought they used bags of sand.

Yeah - the bags of sand were being thrown off the ride and that's when they had the bright idea of seatbelt ing them in and putting that mesh stuff over the slide - forgetting, apparently, that bags of sand weren't who was riding the ride long term.
Anonymous
I have to wonder if this is the first time the netting has ever really been tested as a safety feature on a water slide. I have seen in on plenty of slides I have been on but now I am wondering if they used it believing it would prevent an accident but never actually doing any testing. Now that they know how dangerous it can be, I hope it will cause some redesign of all water slides.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder if this is the first time the netting has ever really been tested as a safety feature on a water slide. I have seen in on plenty of slides I have been on but now I am wondering if they used it believing it would prevent an accident but never actually doing any testing. Now that they know how dangerous it can be, I hope it will cause some redesign of all water slides.


I think the designers took this safety net feature idea from a completely different sort of ride and just assumed that it would also work fine for this ride.

As it turns out the netting itself caused severe abrasions to these victims and, of course, the metal supports caused a catastrophic injury to this young boy.

This ride hadn't been "done before" for a reason.

Anonymous
Thank God!!!
Anonymous
The family has reached a settlement with the parks owner.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article125880149.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The family has reached a settlement with the parks owner.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article125880149.html


Sadly, his father is a Kansas legislator who's voted against more regulations for and lower liability for businesses, including water parks.


The idea is that government regulations are not needed and that someone's church will step in to fund anything that is needed. So, I see that their church set up a Go Fund Me site to college money for the family
but what difference does that make? How is paying for the funeral going to help anything? Perhaps the government should step in and have some standards for some things and offer some services
rather than relying on your church (never mind that many US citizens do not belong to a church and never mind the whole separation of church and state concept - peshaw..).

https://www.gofundme.com/2wrj7w4c


I wonder if they have or will change anything? Has anything been learned?
I haven't heard anything from the lawmaker about any changes or what they will do with the 20 million dollar settlement to perhaps improve things in the world. When that Virginia lawmaker's son tried to murder him and then committed suicide when he couldn't get him a bed at a psychiatric hospital, he at least finally realized that perhaps adequate mental health care is necessary and he changed some laws. How about this lawmaker?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/04/mental-health-advocates/15061189/

I hope that something good comes from this very awful situation.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The riders were held in by VELCRO! Complete fail.


I saw that, but maybe there was a reason behind that? Maybe if it were metal bars, the force/speed would cause more injuries than a velcro strap.

Was it a strap issue? As in, did a strap come loose?


Have you read any of the thread? Or any of the news articles? He wasn't in his seat in the raft at the end of the ride. I think we can safely assume his straps failed.


I'm not sure that a secure strap would have made any difference. I think the raft itself was launched upward at an angle and his neck hit the metal support bar while he was still seated in the raft.


If that were what happened, his dead body would have arrived in the raft, not after it.


I would imagine that the force of the impact made the velcro fail which may have even been factored into the design for all we know.



You think they intentionally designed the system, expecting people to ram their heads into metal bars at 65 miles an hour?


It was not designed or tested by an engineering team so yes.
I wonder if the court documents are available to read or if they are sealed?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The family has reached a settlement with the parks owner.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article125880149.html


Sadly, his father is a Kansas legislator who's voted against more regulations for and lower liability for businesses, including water parks.


The idea is that government regulations are not needed and that someone's church will step in to fund anything that is needed. So, I see that their church set up a Go Fund Me site to college money for the family
but what difference does that make? How is paying for the funeral going to help anything? Perhaps the government should step in and have some standards for some things and offer some services
rather than relying on your church (never mind that many US citizens do not belong to a church and never mind the whole separation of church and state concept - peshaw..).

https://www.gofundme.com/2wrj7w4c


I wonder if they have or will change anything? Has anything been learned?
I haven't heard anything from the lawmaker about any changes or what they will do with the 20 million dollar settlement to perhaps improve things in the world. When that Virginia lawmaker's son tried to murder him and then committed suicide when he couldn't get him a bed at a psychiatric hospital, he at least finally realized that perhaps adequate mental health care is necessary and he changed some laws. How about this lawmaker?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/04/mental-health-advocates/15061189/

I hope that something good comes from this very awful situation.


Give the guy a break. I'm sure he realizes what's up and I'm sure he's devastated.
Anonymous
I wonder if they have or will change anything? Has anything been learned?
I haven't heard anything from the lawmaker about any changes or what they will do with the 20 million dollar settlement to perhaps improve things in the world. When that Virginia lawmaker's son tried to murder him and then committed suicide when he couldn't get him a bed at a psychiatric hospital, he at least finally realized that perhaps adequate mental health care is necessary and he changed some laws. How about this lawmaker?


These are two very, very different situations. Creigh Deeds didn't "finally realize" mental health care is necessary--he had been an advocate for health care in all forms for some time. He just "finally" had a tangible connection to use in his call to action. The Kansas father actively voted against regulation that might have prevented his son's tragic death. But regardless, the man lost his child, so I'm sure that's punishment enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The family has reached a settlement with the parks owner.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article125880149.html


Sadly, his father is a Kansas legislator who's voted against more regulations for and lower liability for businesses, including water parks.


The idea is that government regulations are not needed and that someone's church will step in to fund anything that is needed. So, I see that their church set up a Go Fund Me site to college money for the family
but what difference does that make? How is paying for the funeral going to help anything? Perhaps the government should step in and have some standards for some things and offer some services
rather than relying on your church (never mind that many US citizens do not belong to a church and never mind the whole separation of church and state concept - peshaw..).

https://www.gofundme.com/2wrj7w4c


I wonder if they have or will change anything? Has anything been learned?
I haven't heard anything from the lawmaker about any changes or what they will do with the 20 million dollar settlement to perhaps improve things in the world. When that Virginia lawmaker's son tried to murder him and then committed suicide when he couldn't get him a bed at a psychiatric hospital, he at least finally realized that perhaps adequate mental health care is necessary and he changed some laws. How about this lawmaker?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/04/mental-health-advocates/15061189/

I hope that something good comes from this very awful situation.


Give the guy a break. I'm sure he realizes what's up and I'm sure he's devastated.


Nah, sometimes there are consequences and I'm not sure he'd realize "what's up" if it hadn't been his own kid, otherwise maybe he'd have voted differently.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The family has reached a settlement with the parks owner.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article125880149.html


Sadly, his father is a Kansas legislator who's voted against more regulations for and lower liability for businesses, including water parks.


The idea is that government regulations are not needed and that someone's church will step in to fund anything that is needed. So, I see that their church set up a Go Fund Me site to college money for the family
but what difference does that make? How is paying for the funeral going to help anything? Perhaps the government should step in and have some standards for some things and offer some services
rather than relying on your church (never mind that many US citizens do not belong to a church and never mind the whole separation of church and state concept - peshaw..).

https://www.gofundme.com/2wrj7w4c


I wonder if they have or will change anything? Has anything been learned?
I haven't heard anything from the lawmaker about any changes or what they will do with the 20 million dollar settlement to perhaps improve things in the world. When that Virginia lawmaker's son tried to murder him and then committed suicide when he couldn't get him a bed at a psychiatric hospital, he at least finally realized that perhaps adequate mental health care is necessary and he changed some laws. How about this lawmaker?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/04/mental-health-advocates/15061189/

I hope that something good comes from this very awful situation.


Give the guy a break. I'm sure he realizes what's up and I'm sure he's devastated.


But but but he's a republican! Who cares if his kid died? He's a republican and pp is a dumbassocrat. So it's his fault his kid died. If he was a democrat his kid would still be alive.
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