Lochte Robbery Story: True or False

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Anonymous wrote:It is hilarious how some posters go into contortions to defend a couple of sleazebags who feel they have some sort of right to violate the law in a foreign country and then expect no consequences.

They think that because Brazil is a third world country Americans can do whatever they want. Of course, if Lochte and his compatriots had been black or Hispanic these same people would be less inclined to spring to their defense.

Lochte should face a lifetime ban not only for his lies and attempt to malign a foreign host nation but because he still will not candidly acknowledge that he was wrong. Even in his latest interview, the jerk cannot bring himself to admit what he did and that is why I would like to see him banned from competitive swimming.

Yes, Americans - even white Americans (gasp) - are required to follow the law in a foreign country. Such a revolutionary concept ........

+1,000 Good grief. How is this hard to understand? Depressing that anyone has to spell this out.

You are both ridiculous.

He didn't cold cock his girlfriend
He didn't rape or murder anyone
He didn't brandish a gun
He didn't brutalize helpless animals
He didn't gamble on his sport
He didn't use steroids



He peed behind a building, tore down a poster, and embellished some details....



You people are ridiculous.

You are so right! After all, it was white guys peeing which is far more palatable than a black or Hispanic peeing ....... not to mention those Brazilians whose pee is definitely not palatable to Americans! There are, after all, different gradations of pee.

Yes, and he did embellish some details which is the right term when we are talking about whites ..... if it were a non-white we'd just call it lying!

Um, all of you who keep calling Lochte's defenders racist do know that Ryan Lochte is 1/2 Cuban right (Cuban mom, white dad)? I assume you are going to tell me that it doesn't matter because he looks white, and therefore enjoys "white privilege." Is that how it works? I really want to understand when someone is a person of color and when he's not because, as far as I can tell, Lochte is a POC. His mother immigrated from Cuba, and she has discussed her Cuban heritage on many occasions, as has Ryan. So, I don't think we'd act differently if Ryan was Hispanic since, guess what, HE IS!!!!!

As for his sponsors, I agree that they suck. They may be able to get another Olympian and maybe another swimmer, but he's not going to look like Ryan Lochte. Plus, Lochte is the second most decorated U.S. Olympian of all time (next to Phelps), I believe. He's not just some swimmer.

And all those people calling him a liar, isn't is possible his memory was foggy because he was drunk? What's clear is he was in a taxi, it stopped, guys with guns who it appears showed some badges (according to witnesses) pointed guns in their direction. Eyewitness statements are completely unreliable when people are sober...when they've been drinking, partying all night, and don't have a super high IQ, no wonder some of the details got messed up.

Kobe Bryant is accused of sexual assault and goes on w/ his life, Michael Phelps gets two DUIs, but let's definitely stick it to Lochte for peeing in public and tearing a poster!

You've checked all the boxes of the ignorant American . You stupidly assume that because an individual hails from a Latin American country he/she must be brown . This clearly shows that you lack basic knowledge of Latin America and the various groups that populate it. Ryan lochte mother could've been from Argentina and you'd be peddling that dumb argument , meanwhile as much as 62% of Argentinians have Italian lineage as a result of the massive immigration of said Italians to that part of the world in the 19th and 20th century . You can be Cuban and be anthropologically Caucasian . Hell, I guarantee the bitter assholes who are defending him do so because when they see him , they see a white boy

I'm an neither ignorant nor am I stupid. I am well aware of the fact that there are Argentinians of Italian lineage, thank you very much. Do you know for a fact that Lochte's mother is anthropologically Caucasian? Or are you the ignorant one who is simply assuming that?

For someone who made the claim that his mother is Cuban therefore he's a POC, you've yet to prove anything

But I'm not the one who raised race in the first place. It was all the PPs claiming that he is "white" and that's the only reason some of us are defending him. So, since they are the ones who attempted to use his whiteness to prove their claim, I think it's their burden to prove that he is white despite the fact that he is 1/2 Cuban (in other words, that his mother is anthropoligically Caucasian, as you put it). And since you are clearly just trying to pass the buck back to me, that tells me that you have absolutely ZERO evidence that Lochte and his mom are "white." So, please, stop running around calling people ignorant and stupid when you have no idea what you are talking about.

I think you enjoy being dumb. I suggest you take a look at lochte mom and see how stupid your 'his mom is Cuban ' line looks. Again you keep insisting on the Cuban line and I made it clear to you that Cuban doesn't mean squat in this context, considering that you can be Caucasian and Cuban . You keep circling the wagons , the only person who doesn't know what he's talking about is you . You got caught with your hand in the ignorance jar and you've been on a back pedaling journey and boy, are you doing an abysmal job ? You brought the Cuban argument as a counter line to his whiteness and it fell flat . To be wrong is one thing , to be denial is even more disturbing . I can see how the lochte of this world came to be

Oh, so you're claiming that you can tell that she's anthropologically Caucasian by looking at her, and I'm the one who is dumb and ignorant? Right, because you can always tell someone's race/ethnicity by looking at them, of course! I haven't been proven wrong about anything. The only claim that's been proven wrong is that people are defending Lochte because he's white. No, people are defending Lochte because of the complete overreaction to what he did. We have athletes who commit serious crimes, and folks look the other way. But, for some reason, Lochte is getting crucified. It's inane, kind of like your claim that I am stupid.

You could gain some credibility( not that you had any to begin with ) by giving the names of athletes who have had folks look away when they committed serious crimes . Does two wrongs make it right ?in your psychotic mind , yes. Lochte's mom is Cuban by nationality of origin ( which has to do with race ) and Caucasian by race . You ventured into uncharted waters and you lost badly . Ryan lochte wasn't in Brazil on a personal vacation , he was there for the Olympics and therefore representing this country and he failed terribly . Folks are not overreacting , they're rightfully incensed that your 32 yr old 'kid' brought international embarrassment to this country .By bringing up his mom Cuban heritage , you were inadvertently trying to say he's a POC and folks should let it go , thereby exposing your lower than low intellect . In lochte's defense , a combination of laissez-faire upbringing and having his head buried in water ( pun intended ) for so long might have rendered him an irreparably dumb jock . What's your excuse ? Go ahead and get back to your oral acrobatics and come back with an excuse , but remember one thing at 32 the 'kid' is toast . It's over, none of the illogical and trite crap that you spew here will change that .

For simplicity's sake (sticking w/ the same sport), how about Michael Phelps and his two DUIs?

I never called Lochte a "kid" so I don't have any idea why you keep saying that. Nor did I raise the fact that Lochte was Cuban so that folks would "let it go." As I've stated repeatedly, I brought it up because others claimed that the only reason people were defending Lochte is because he's white. In any event, I'm done communicating with you. If you look back at these exchanges, you'll see that I never once called you a name or spewed vitriol as you have been doing over and over.

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So.... Yeah.

If the only damage by the swimmers' "vandalism" was the poster, then the security guards' demand for money was pure extortion, a shakedown, as many knew the moment they heard about it. Whatever story Lochte told, overdramatizing the actual events, the swimmers were robbed at gunpoint and then charged with crimes by the Brazilian government.

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Anonymous wrote:It is hilarious how some posters go into contortions to defend a couple of sleazebags who feel they have some sort of right to violate the law in a foreign country and then expect no consequences.

They think that because Brazil is a third world country Americans can do whatever they want. Of course, if Lochte and his compatriots had been black or Hispanic these same people would be less inclined to spring to their defense.

Lochte should face a lifetime ban not only for his lies and attempt to malign a foreign host nation but because he still will not candidly acknowledge that he was wrong. Even in his latest interview, the jerk cannot bring himself to admit what he did and that is why I would like to see him banned from competitive swimming.

Yes, Americans - even white Americans (gasp) - are required to follow the law in a foreign country. Such a revolutionary concept ........

+1,000 Good grief. How is this hard to understand? Depressing that anyone has to spell this out.

You are both ridiculous.

He didn't cold cock his girlfriend
He didn't rape or murder anyone
He didn't brandish a gun
He didn't brutalize helpless animals
He didn't gamble on his sport
He didn't use steroids



He peed behind a building, tore down a poster, and embellished some details....



You people are ridiculous.

You are so right! After all, it was white guys peeing which is far more palatable than a black or Hispanic peeing ....... not to mention those Brazilians whose pee is definitely not palatable to Americans! There are, after all, different gradations of pee.

Yes, and he did embellish some details which is the right term when we are talking about whites ..... if it were a non-white we'd just call it lying!

Um, all of you who keep calling Lochte's defenders racist do know that Ryan Lochte is 1/2 Cuban right (Cuban mom, white dad)? I assume you are going to tell me that it doesn't matter because he looks white, and therefore enjoys "white privilege." Is that how it works? I really want to understand when someone is a person of color and when he's not because, as far as I can tell, Lochte is a POC. His mother immigrated from Cuba, and she has discussed her Cuban heritage on many occasions, as has Ryan. So, I don't think we'd act differently if Ryan was Hispanic since, guess what, HE IS!!!!!

As for his sponsors, I agree that they suck. They may be able to get another Olympian and maybe another swimmer, but he's not going to look like Ryan Lochte. Plus, Lochte is the second most decorated U.S. Olympian of all time (next to Phelps), I believe. He's not just some swimmer.

And all those people calling him a liar, isn't is possible his memory was foggy because he was drunk? What's clear is he was in a taxi, it stopped, guys with guns who it appears showed some badges (according to witnesses) pointed guns in their direction. Eyewitness statements are completely unreliable when people are sober...when they've been drinking, partying all night, and don't have a super high IQ, no wonder some of the details got messed up.

Kobe Bryant is accused of sexual assault and goes on w/ his life, Michael Phelps gets two DUIs, but let's definitely stick it to Lochte for peeing in public and tearing a poster!

You've checked all the boxes of the ignorant American . You stupidly assume that because an individual hails from a Latin American country he/she must be brown . This clearly shows that you lack basic knowledge of Latin America and the various groups that populate it. Ryan lochte mother could've been from Argentina and you'd be peddling that dumb argument , meanwhile as much as 62% of Argentinians have Italian lineage as a result of the massive immigration of said Italians to that part of the world in the 19th and 20th century . You can be Cuban and be anthropologically Caucasian . Hell, I guarantee the bitter assholes who are defending him do so because when they see him , they see a white boy

I'm an neither ignorant nor am I stupid. I am well aware of the fact that there are Argentinians of Italian lineage, thank you very much. Do you know for a fact that Lochte's mother is anthropologically Caucasian? Or are you the ignorant one who is simply assuming that?

For someone who made the claim that his mother is Cuban therefore he's a POC, you've yet to prove anything

But I'm not the one who raised race in the first place. It was all the PPs claiming that he is "white" and that's the only reason some of us are defending him. So, since they are the ones who attempted to use his whiteness to prove their claim, I think it's their burden to prove that he is white despite the fact that he is 1/2 Cuban (in other words, that his mother is anthropoligically Caucasian, as you put it). And since you are clearly just trying to pass the buck back to me, that tells me that you have absolutely ZERO evidence that Lochte and his mom are "white." So, please, stop running around calling people ignorant and stupid when you have no idea what you are talking about.

I think you enjoy being dumb. I suggest you take a look at lochte mom and see how stupid your 'his mom is Cuban ' line looks. Again you keep insisting on the Cuban line and I made it clear to you that Cuban doesn't mean squat in this context, considering that you can be Caucasian and Cuban . You keep circling the wagons , the only person who doesn't know what he's talking about is you . You got caught with your hand in the ignorance jar and you've been on a back pedaling journey and boy, are you doing an abysmal job ? You brought the Cuban argument as a counter line to his whiteness and it fell flat . To be wrong is one thing , to be denial is even more disturbing . I can see how the lochte of this world came to be

Oh, so you're claiming that you can tell that she's anthropologically Caucasian by looking at her, and I'm the one who is dumb and ignorant? Right, because you can always tell someone's race/ethnicity by looking at them, of course! I haven't been proven wrong about anything. The only claim that's been proven wrong is that people are defending Lochte because he's white. No, people are defending Lochte because of the complete overreaction to what he did. We have athletes who commit serious crimes, and folks look the other way. But, for some reason, Lochte is getting crucified. It's inane, kind of like your claim that I am stupid.

You could gain some credibility( not that you had any to begin with ) by giving the names of athletes who have had folks look away when they committed serious crimes . Does two wrongs make it right ?in your psychotic mind , yes. Lochte's mom is Cuban by nationality of origin ( which has to do with race ) and Caucasian by race . You ventured into uncharted waters and you lost badly . Ryan lochte wasn't in Brazil on a personal vacation , he was there for the Olympics and therefore representing this country and he failed terribly . Folks are not overreacting , they're rightfully incensed that your 32 yr old 'kid' brought international embarrassment to this country .By bringing up his mom Cuban heritage , you were inadvertently trying to say he's a POC and folks should let it go , thereby exposing your lower than low intellect . In lochte's defense , a combination of laissez-faire upbringing and having his head buried in water ( pun intended ) for so long might have rendered him an irreparably dumb jock . What's your excuse ? Go ahead and get back to your oral acrobatics and come back with an excuse , but remember one thing at 32 the 'kid' is toast . It's over, none of the illogical and trite crap that you spew here will change that .

For simplicity's sake (sticking w/ the same sport), how about Michael Phelps and his two DUIs?

I never called Lochte a "kid" so I don't have any idea why you keep saying that. Nor did I raise the fact that Lochte was Cuban so that folks would "let it go." As I've stated repeatedly, I brought it up because others claimed that the only reason people were defending Lochte is because he's white. In any event, I'm done communicating with you. If you look back at these exchanges, you'll see that I never once called you a name or spewed vitriol as you have been doing over and over.

Awww

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/news/latest-on-ryan-lochte-rio-police-chief-exaggerated-his-version-of-events-too-141250255.html?client=safari


So.... Yeah.

If the only damage by the swimmers' "vandalism" was the poster, then the security guards' demand for money was pure extortion, a shakedown, as many knew the moment they heard about it. Whatever story Lochte told, overdramatizing the actual events, the swimmers were robbed at gunpoint and then charged with crimes by the Brazilian government.

Yep. It's been pretty clear from the start. The media is really lazy, Brazil is corrupt, and Lochte is dumb. Had one of those variables been a little different...

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Anonymous wrote:It is hilarious how some posters go into contortions to defend a couple of sleazebags who feel they have some sort of right to violate the law in a foreign country and then expect no consequences.

They think that because Brazil is a third world country Americans can do whatever they want. Of course, if Lochte and his compatriots had been black or Hispanic these same people would be less inclined to spring to their defense.

Lochte should face a lifetime ban not only for his lies and attempt to malign a foreign host nation but because he still will not candidly acknowledge that he was wrong. Even in his latest interview, the jerk cannot bring himself to admit what he did and that is why I would like to see him banned from competitive swimming.

Yes, Americans - even white Americans (gasp) - are required to follow the law in a foreign country. Such a revolutionary concept ........

+1,000 Good grief. How is this hard to understand? Depressing that anyone has to spell this out.

You are both ridiculous.

He didn't cold cock his girlfriend
He didn't rape or murder anyone
He didn't brandish a gun
He didn't brutalize helpless animals
He didn't gamble on his sport
He didn't use steroids



He peed behind a building, tore down a poster, and embellished some details....



You people are ridiculous.

You are so right! After all, it was white guys peeing which is far more palatable than a black or Hispanic peeing ....... not to mention those Brazilians whose pee is definitely not palatable to Americans! There are, after all, different gradations of pee.

Yes, and he did embellish some details which is the right term when we are talking about whites ..... if it were a non-white we'd just call it lying!

Um, all of you who keep calling Lochte's defenders racist do know that Ryan Lochte is 1/2 Cuban right (Cuban mom, white dad)? I assume you are going to tell me that it doesn't matter because he looks white, and therefore enjoys "white privilege." Is that how it works? I really want to understand when someone is a person of color and when he's not because, as far as I can tell, Lochte is a POC. His mother immigrated from Cuba, and she has discussed her Cuban heritage on many occasions, as has Ryan. So, I don't think we'd act differently if Ryan was Hispanic since, guess what, HE IS!!!!!

As for his sponsors, I agree that they suck. They may be able to get another Olympian and maybe another swimmer, but he's not going to look like Ryan Lochte. Plus, Lochte is the second most decorated U.S. Olympian of all time (next to Phelps), I believe. He's not just some swimmer.

And all those people calling him a liar, isn't is possible his memory was foggy because he was drunk? What's clear is he was in a taxi, it stopped, guys with guns who it appears showed some badges (according to witnesses) pointed guns in their direction. Eyewitness statements are completely unreliable when people are sober...when they've been drinking, partying all night, and don't have a super high IQ, no wonder some of the details got messed up.

Kobe Bryant is accused of sexual assault and goes on w/ his life, Michael Phelps gets two DUIs, but let's definitely stick it to Lochte for peeing in public and tearing a poster!

You've checked all the boxes of the ignorant American . You stupidly assume that because an individual hails from a Latin American country he/she must be brown . This clearly shows that you lack basic knowledge of Latin America and the various groups that populate it. Ryan lochte mother could've been from Argentina and you'd be peddling that dumb argument , meanwhile as much as 62% of Argentinians have Italian lineage as a result of the massive immigration of said Italians to that part of the world in the 19th and 20th century . You can be Cuban and be anthropologically Caucasian . Hell, I guarantee the bitter assholes who are defending him do so because when they see him , they see a white boy

I'm an neither ignorant nor am I stupid. I am well aware of the fact that there are Argentinians of Italian lineage, thank you very much. Do you know for a fact that Lochte's mother is anthropologically Caucasian? Or are you the ignorant one who is simply assuming that?

For someone who made the claim that his mother is Cuban therefore he's a POC, you've yet to prove anything

But I'm not the one who raised race in the first place. It was all the PPs claiming that he is "white" and that's the only reason some of us are defending him. So, since they are the ones who attempted to use his whiteness to prove their claim, I think it's their burden to prove that he is white despite the fact that he is 1/2 Cuban (in other words, that his mother is anthropoligically Caucasian, as you put it). And since you are clearly just trying to pass the buck back to me, that tells me that you have absolutely ZERO evidence that Lochte and his mom are "white." So, please, stop running around calling people ignorant and stupid when you have no idea what you are talking about.

I think you enjoy being dumb. I suggest you take a look at lochte mom and see how stupid your 'his mom is Cuban ' line looks. Again you keep insisting on the Cuban line and I made it clear to you that Cuban doesn't mean squat in this context, considering that you can be Caucasian and Cuban . You keep circling the wagons , the only person who doesn't know what he's talking about is you . You got caught with your hand in the ignorance jar and you've been on a back pedaling journey and boy, are you doing an abysmal job ? You brought the Cuban argument as a counter line to his whiteness and it fell flat . To be wrong is one thing , to be denial is even more disturbing . I can see how the lochte of this world came to be

Oh, so you're claiming that you can tell that she's anthropologically Caucasian by looking at her, and I'm the one who is dumb and ignorant? Right, because you can always tell someone's race/ethnicity by looking at them, of course! I haven't been proven wrong about anything. The only claim that's been proven wrong is that people are defending Lochte because he's white. No, people are defending Lochte because of the complete overreaction to what he did. We have athletes who commit serious crimes, and folks look the other way. But, for some reason, Lochte is getting crucified. It's inane, kind of like your claim that I am stupid.

You could gain some credibility( not that you had any to begin with ) by giving the names of athletes who have had folks look away when they committed serious crimes . Does two wrongs make it right ?in your psychotic mind , yes. Lochte's mom is Cuban by nationality of origin ( which has to do with race ) and Caucasian by race . You ventured into uncharted waters and you lost badly . Ryan lochte wasn't in Brazil on a personal vacation , he was there for the Olympics and therefore representing this country and he failed terribly . Folks are not overreacting , they're rightfully incensed that your 32 yr old 'kid' brought international embarrassment to this country .By bringing up his mom Cuban heritage , you were inadvertently trying to say he's a POC and folks should let it go , thereby exposing your lower than low intellect . In lochte's defense , a combination of laissez-faire upbringing and having his head buried in water ( pun intended ) for so long might have rendered him an irreparably dumb jock . What's your excuse ? Go ahead and get back to your oral acrobatics and come back with an excuse , but remember one thing at 32 the 'kid' is toast . It's over, none of the illogical and trite crap that you spew here will change that .

For simplicity's sake (sticking w/ the same sport), how about Michael Phelps and his two DUIs?

I never called Lochte a "kid" so I don't have any idea why you keep saying that. Nor did I raise the fact that Lochte was Cuban so that folks would "let it go." As I've stated repeatedly, I brought it up because others claimed that the only reason people were defending Lochte is because he's white. In any event, I'm done communicating with you. If you look back at these exchanges, you'll see that I never once called you a name or spewed vitriol as you have been doing over and over.

Awww

Np-don't worry about arguing with this guy. He hasn't made a coherent argument yet. He has to name call, it's all he's got.

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In a few years, once things die down, this scandal will be revisited. There will be a piece laying out how the evidence never showed any vandalism beyond the peeing and the poster (but did show that guns were drawn and demands for $ were made) and wondering why everyone overreacted like they did.

At that point, there will be a lot fewer people willing to own up to the Genuine Outrage they currently claim to feel, since it will be fairly obvious how silly it all was.

[Anonymous]

The hate for RL continues to astonish me. He peed and was held up at gun point. Jeez.

[Anonymous]

I'm no fan of his, but the media's incredibly lazy reporting (Matt Lauer is such an asshole), and the huge overreaction people are having makes me want to see this douche bag make a come back. Ewww.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the only damage by the swimmers' "vandalism" was the poster, then the security guards' demand for money was pure extortion, a shakedown, as many knew the moment they heard about it. Whatever story Lochte told, overdramatizing the actual events, the swimmers were robbed at gunpoint and then charged with crimes by the Brazilian government.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jimmy-feigen-last-of-four-lochte-robbery-swimmers-releases-statement-124037496.html

A "robbery-that-wasn’t-really-a-robbery-but-still-was-a-Brazilian-shakedown," followed by a further shakedown by officials when they forced Feigen to cough up a $10,800 "fine" for his passport so he could leave the country (that was the negotiated rate, down from $31k, then $47k). Lochte got out just in time, otherwise they'd be holding him hostage for cash too.

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Anonymous wrote:If the only damage by the swimmers' "vandalism" was the poster, then the security guards' demand for money was pure extortion, a shakedown, as many knew the moment they heard about it. Whatever story Lochte told, overdramatizing the actual events, the swimmers were robbed at gunpoint and then charged with crimes by the Brazilian government.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jimmy-feigen-last-of-four-lochte-robbery-swimmers-releases-statement-124037496.html

A "robbery-that-wasn’t-really-a-robbery-but-still-was-a-Brazilian-shakedown," followed by a further shakedown by officials when they forced Feigen to cough up a $10,800 "fine" for his passport so he could leave the country (that was the negotiated rate, down from $31k, then $47k). Lochte got out just in time, otherwise they'd be holding him hostage for cash too.

This part of the story has been largely ignored. They wanted him ( Feigen) to cough up more, but he got out in time. He was right to pay the first ridiculous fee and get that hell out.

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Anonymous wrote:If the only damage by the swimmers' "vandalism" was the poster, then the security guards' demand for money was pure extortion, a shakedown, as many knew the moment they heard about it. Whatever story Lochte told, overdramatizing the actual events, the swimmers were robbed at gunpoint and then charged with crimes by the Brazilian government.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jimmy-feigen-last-of-four-lochte-robbery-swimmers-releases-statement-124037496.html

A "robbery-that-wasn’t-really-a-robbery-but-still-was-a-Brazilian-shakedown," followed by a further shakedown by officials when they forced Feigen to cough up a $10,800 "fine" for his passport so he could leave the country (that was the negotiated rate, down from $31k, then $47k). Lochte got out just in time, otherwise they'd be holding him hostage for cash too.

This part of the story has been largely ignored. They wanted him ( Feigen) to cough up more, but he got out in time. He was right to pay the first ridiculous fee and get that hell out.

Yes, there's no way to spin that to make Rio look in the right and to make Feigen look in the wrong. So the media hasn't really focused on it.

Imagnie if Lochte had stayed in Rio, how much they would have charged him for the privilege of leaving the country. 6 figures, 7 figures?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm no fan of his, but the media's incredibly lazy reporting (Matt Lauer is such an asshole), and the huge overreaction people are having makes me want to see this douche bag make a come back. Ewww.

Too late

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What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?

You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.

The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.

If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.

I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.

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Anonymous wrote:What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?

You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.

The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.

If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.

I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.

Are you arguing that it is the law in Brazil that if you pee in an inappropriate place and remove a poster from a wall that you are required to pay a fine to the police on the spot? There is no arrest, no trial. The law is that you pay off the authorities right then and there? (And are then fined again later.)

That isn't what I understand to be the law, but since the media has gotten so much of this story wrong, I'm willing to be educated. Or are you just going off on a tangent?

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Anonymous wrote:If the only damage by the swimmers' "vandalism" was the poster, then the security guards' demand for money was pure extortion, a shakedown, as many knew the moment they heard about it. Whatever story Lochte told, overdramatizing the actual events, the swimmers were robbed at gunpoint and then charged with crimes by the Brazilian government.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jimmy-feigen-last-of-four-lochte-robbery-swimmers-releases-statement-124037496.html

A "robbery-that-wasn’t-really-a-robbery-but-still-was-a-Brazilian-shakedown," followed by a further shakedown by officials when they forced Feigen to cough up a $10,800 "fine" for his passport so he could leave the country (that was the negotiated rate, down from $31k, then $47k). Lochte got out just in time, otherwise they'd be holding him hostage for cash too.

This part of the story has been largely ignored. They wanted him ( Feigen) to cough up more, but he got out in time. He was right to pay the first ridiculous fee and get that hell out.

Yes, there's no way to spin that to make Rio look in the right and to make Feigen look in the wrong. So the media hasn't really focused on it.

Imagnie if Lochte had stayed in Rio, how much they would have charged him for the privilege of leaving the country. 6 figures, 7 figures?

Totally agree. It's amazing to me how many people (in the media and otherwise) seem to be getting their jollies from publicly shaming and ridiculing this relatively harmless douchebag for committing minor offenses. It makes me wonder how many fully grown adults out there continue to nurture some sort of weird, longstanding resentment against the good looking jock at their high school.