And why does all this POC business matter? When I look at President Obama, based on his skin color and demeanor, I'd assume he's Kenyan, not US-bred AA. And I'd obviously be wrong. Again, why does any of this matter to the fact of Lochte lying and making up a stupid story? |
I'm an neither ignorant nor am I stupid. I am well aware of the fact that there are Argentinians of Italian lineage, thank you very much. Do you know for a fact that Lochte's mother is anthropologically Caucasian? Or are you the ignorant one who is simply assuming that? |
It matter because people on this board are claiming that the only reason Lochte is being defended is because he's white and that, if he were a POC (which, btw, he is) we wouldn't be coming to his defense. |
Seriously. I have almost never seen this much outrage about an athlete's behavior. It's weirdly out of proportion. There are so many athletes who have committed just god awful crimes, but THIS is the one that gets people so upset? Just strange. |
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It is because you have an American going to a host country and not the slightest compunction in making up a lot of crap that disparages that country and its people. I would feel the same way about a foreigner enjoying the hospitality of this country and being equally offensive. But - and I say this based on personal experience - some Americans abroad are among the worst offenders in how they treat locals. I have seen Americans in foreign country getting offended because someone there does not speak English as if that is something that is expected. I have seen Americans using flash in a museum when there are signs specifically forbidding it and when it is brought to their attention they are just dismissive of the restriction. It just goes on and on ........ Lochte could not countenance a Brazilian having the audacity to challenge him. |
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This is the definitive story ........ end of discussion:
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See 16:05. |
For someone who made the claim that his mother is Cuban therefore he's a POC, you've yet to prove anything |
But I'm not the one who raised race in the first place. It was all the PPs claiming that he is "white" and that's the only reason some of us are defending him. So, since they are the ones who attempted to use his whiteness to prove their claim, I think it's their burden to prove that he is white despite the fact that he is 1/2 Cuban (in other words, that his mother is anthropoligically Caucasian, as you put it). And since you are clearly just trying to pass the buck back to me, that tells me that you have absolutely ZERO evidence that Lochte and his mom are "white." So, please, stop running around calling people ignorant and stupid when you have no idea what you are talking about. |
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Maybe someone should tell Kim Kardashian she is not white but a POC even if she looks white.
Armenians are Indo-European and that is why you find there is variation in their skin color and features. And while we are at it can someone tell Fidel Castro that he is not white either. |
I think you enjoy being dumb. I suggest you take a look at lochte mom and see how stupid your 'his mom is Cuban ' line looks. Again you keep insisting on the Cuban line and I made it clear to you that Cuban doesn't mean squat in this context, considering that you can be Caucasian and Cuban . You keep circling the wagons , the only person who doesn't know what he's talking about is you . You got caught with your hand in the ignorance jar and you've been on a back pedaling journey and boy, are you doing an abysmal job ? You brought the Cuban argument as a counter line to his whiteness and it fell flat . To be wrong is one thing , to be denial is even more disturbing . I can see how the lochte of this world came to be |
Oh, so you're claiming that you can tell that she's anthropologically Caucasian by looking at her, and I'm the one who is dumb and ignorant? Right, because you can always tell someone's race/ethnicity by looking at them, of course! I haven't been proven wrong about anything. The only claim that's been proven wrong is that people are defending Lochte because he's white. No, people are defending Lochte because of the complete overreaction to what he did. We have athletes who commit serious crimes, and folks look the other way. But, for some reason, Lochte is getting crucified. It's inane, kind of like your claim that I am stupid. |
You could gain some credibility( not that you had any to begin with ) by giving the names of athletes who have had folks look away when they committed serious crimes . Does two wrongs make it right ?in your psychotic mind , yes. Lochte's mom is Cuban by nationality of origin ( which has to do with race ) and Caucasian by race . You ventured into uncharted waters and you lost badly . Ryan lochte wasn't in Brazil on a personal vacation , he was there for the Olympics and therefore representing this country and he failed terribly . Folks are not overreacting , they're rightfully incensed that your 32 yr old 'kid' brought international embarrassment to this country .By bringing up his mom Cuban heritage , you were inadvertently trying to say he's a POC and folks should let it go , thereby exposing your lower than low intellect . In lochte's defense , a combination of laissez-faire upbringing and having his head buried in water ( pun intended ) for so long might have rendered him an irreparably dumb jock . What's your excuse ? Go ahead and get back to your oral acrobatics and come back with an excuse , but remember one thing at 32 the 'kid' is toast . It's over, none of the illogical and trite crap that you spew here will change that . |