Hillary to "Speak Directly to White People"!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ so all the officers were plain clothed? Link?

The officer who shot and killed Keith Scott was in plainclothes that much is certain. Are civilians trained to scope out every individual in the surrounding area in a moments notice and discern what constitutes a team of officers working collectively serving a warrant (possibly some in uniform teamed with some in plainclothes) as opposed to simply focusing on what looks like a random dude coming at them with a gun? C'mon... The cops are the ones who supposedly go through all this training and yet its the civilians who are held to the higher standard of knowing what to do and what not to do. The cops can be impulsive and overzealous and make mistakes but civilians aren't allowed to have any err in judgement. Okay. You got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Brother takes a knee -- whites all riot.
Brother takes a bullet -- whites all quiet.

Whitey takes a knee--blacks all quiet
Whitey takes a bullet--blacks all quiet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was another killing of an unarmed black man by a white cop last night. In response, there was a riot in which blacks attacked cops and of course committed a lot of destruction. Although it doesn't look good for the officer, the facts are not yet in. And yet Hillary, in an effort to gain black support, has immediately condemned police specifically and "white people" as a whole (saying "we are better than this") and immediately sided with the black victim. She did not condemn the violence that ensured, nor the community's illegal actions in taking judgment into their own hands,

Does anyone other than me see the double standard here? Look how careful Hillary (and the other liberals) were not to rush to judgment against the Islamic terrorist, saying we don't have all the facts - yet when it's a white police officer involved, she immediately condemns all police and white people - whom she said she "can speak directly to" (!) before any investigation has occurred.

Instead, she should have said that although it doesn't look good for the cop, we have no facts and must not rush to judgment AND criticize the violence the erupted in the black community as a result. She is acting just like Obama - jumping to defend the black guy if a white guy is involved - without knowing anything about the incident. But at least Obama said the ensuing violence isn't the answer. Hillary is so desperate for the black vote that she's afraid to criticize their own unacceptable behavior.

Most of us are no longer fooled by Hillary's scamming.

[Anonymous]

She can talk to “white people” as much as she wants. Let her talk til she’s blue in the face.
There won’t be a lot of white people tuning into her message.
She is not respected, not trusted, and not a leader.

[Anonymous]

Look, I know that blacks feel discriminated against by the police. (In some cases the feeling is justified; others not.) But the sense of ego or self-respect or whatever it is that leads them to defy police instructions is just plain stupid. Just follow the commands. Maybe the black guy IS right and the whitr cop IS wrong, but it doesn't matter. Just do what he says. Reminds me of an epitaph....

Here lies John O'Day,
Who died maintaining his right-of-way,
He was right, DEAD right, as he sped along,
But he's just as dead as if he were wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The police have said he had a firearm. The family is disputing this. I have heard there is no video of this incident.

there is video
cops won't release it
why would he have a gun to pick up his kid at school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://ijr.com/2016/09/697757-hillary-blames-systemic-racism-for-tulsa-police-shooting-it-appears-something-else-was-in-his-system/?utm_campaign=ods&utm_content=crime&utm_medium=owned&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=ijamerica

Hillary is an idiot and divisive. Female police officer in Tulsa said the suspect was unresponsive to commands. PCP was found in the car of the suspect. If the autopsy reveals there was PCP in his system, officer Shelby is justified. People on PCP are dangerous and immune to non-lethal techniques as they're too much under the influence. Officer Shelby just wants to go home at the end of the, that's what most of us want. As a former LEO I support her.

That's what they said. You clearly have never seen someone on PCP. He would not have been acting like the man in the video. His hands were up. What more could she have been telling him. What didn't he follow? His car broke down. Damn, a black man's car can't break down?

Of course you support her. Her husband told her he looked shady from the helicopter. How can you tell from a helicopter?

She said she made a mistake and shot him instead of tasing him.

It's obvious you don't have LEO experience and you're nothing but a spoiled SAHM playing armchair cop.

When on PCP and acting like he did, non-lethal force doesn't work. Most cops have enough experience to see when someone is acting under the influence. I could usually tell right away, and tests proved me right.

Have you ever ridden in a helicopter? Obviously not. You get a very good vantage point of the situation and can see quite well what's going on.

Sexist and racist. How I envy your family!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, I know that blacks feel discriminated against by the police. (In some cases the feeling is justified; others not.) But the sense of ego or self-respect or whatever it is that leads them to defy police instructions is just plain stupid. Just follow the commands. Maybe the black guy IS right and the whitr cop IS wrong, but it doesn't matter. Just do what he says. Reminds me of an epitaph....

Here lies John O'Day,
Who died maintaining his right-of-way,
He was right, DEAD right, as he sped along,
But he's just as dead as if he were wrong.

Yep -- NEGROES JUST WON'T LISTEN - SO DAMN DISRESPECTFUL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, I know that blacks feel discriminated against by the police. (In some cases the feeling is justified; others not.) But the sense of ego or self-respect or whatever it is that leads them to defy police instructions is just plain stupid. Just follow the commands. Maybe the black guy IS right and the whitr cop IS wrong, but it doesn't matter. Just do what he says. Reminds me of an epitaph....

Here lies John O'Day,
Who died maintaining his right-of-way,
He was right, DEAD right, as he sped along,
But he's just as dead as if he were wrong.

Yep -- NEGROES JUST WON'T LISTEN - SO DAMN DISRESPECTFUL!

First, the use of the word "negro" went out about 1963. I don't hear ANYONE using that term, other than a sarcastic black person.
And second, yes....sorry....refusing to obey police orders is wrong. Just do what the damn cop says, and maybe you'll have a better chance of surviving the encounter. Isn't that more important than showing whitey you don't have to do what he says? The defiance is so misplaced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, I know that blacks feel discriminated against by the police. (In some cases the feeling is justified; others not.) But the sense of ego or self-respect or whatever it is that leads them to defy police instructions is just plain stupid. Just follow the commands. Maybe the black guy IS right and the whitr cop IS wrong, but it doesn't matter. Just do what he says.

Sounds reasonable but then again that's basically putting the onus strictly on civilians to be upstanding and professional and courteous and cooperative.
Basically that line of thought (just do what he says) gives officers free reign to abuse their authority and terrify whomever.
Basically that line of thought (just do what he says) puts civilians in a position where they are responsible for serving and protecting the police - It's supposed to be the other way around!
I'm not cool with that. I don't want to live in a military regime where bullies with badges walk around killing civilians at leisure for failure to follow orders fast enough or to their satisfaction.
Cops shouldn't have that kind of authority and they shouldn't have that type of chip on their shoulder.
If you have the attitude that you are owed deference and instant obedience by the people around you, and that you are justified in using violence against them if they don’t comply, and if you really think that everybody else should “just do what I tell you” then you're wearing the wrong uniform in the wrong country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ so all the officers were plain clothed? Link?

The officer who shot and killed Keith Scott was in plainclothes that much is certain. Are civilians trained to scope out every individual in the surrounding area in a moments notice and discern what constitutes a team of officers working collectively serving a warrant (possibly some in uniform teamed with some in plainclothes) as opposed to simply focusing on what looks like a random dude coming at them with a gun? C'mon... The cops are the ones who supposedly go through all this training and yet its the civilians who are held to the higher standard of knowing what to do and what not to do. The cops can be impulsive and overzealous and make mistakes but civilians aren't allowed to have any err in judgement. Okay. You got it.

If someone in a POLICE vest tells you to drop your weapon, yes, you should drop your weapon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She can talk to “white people” as much as she wants. Let her talk til she’s blue in the face.
There won’t be a lot of white people tuning into her message.
She is not respected, not trusted, and not a leader.

Who gives a shit ? The problem with you Caucasians( mostly males) is that you think what works for you should work for everybody else . She's the next president . Let it burn your heart

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, I know that blacks feel discriminated against by the police. (In some cases the feeling is justified; others not.) But the sense of ego or self-respect or whatever it is that leads them to defy police instructions is just plain stupid. Just follow the commands. Maybe the black guy IS right and the whitr cop IS wrong, but it doesn't matter. Just do what he says.

Sounds reasonable but then again that's basically putting the onus strictly on civilians to be upstanding and professional and courteous and cooperative.
Basically that line of thought (just do what he says) gives officers free reign to abuse their authority and terrify whomever.
Basically that line of thought (just do what he says) puts civilians in a position where they are responsible for serving and protecting the police - It's supposed to be the other way around!
I'm not cool with that. I don't want to live in a military regime where bullies with badges walk around killing civilians at leisure for failure to follow orders fast enough or to their satisfaction.
Cops shouldn't have that kind of authority and they shouldn't have that type of chip on their shoulder.
If you have the attitude that you are owed deference and instant obedience by the people around you, and that you are justified in using violence against them if they don’t comply, and if you really think that everybody else should “just do what I tell you” then you're wearing the wrong uniform in the wrong country.

PP. Everything you said makes sense, and no doubt there's a lot of work to do. I agree that we can't have a police state with unlimited powers. But that takes time, and I'm looking at it from a more immediate perspective. If you know that most, or many, or even some blacks who have been killed without justification were also defying police orders, and thus challenging the police and escalating the situation, don't do it. I realize it's putting the onus on the citizen. But the overriding, immediate goal in a tense, and yes....maybe even racially-charged situation....should be NOT TO DIE. Your chances go up exponentially if you do what the cop orders. Wrong or right, just do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was another killing of an unarmed black man by a white cop last night. In response, there was a riot in which blacks attacked cops and of course committed a lot of destruction. Although it doesn't look good for the officer, the facts are not yet in. And yet Hillary, in an effort to gain black support, has immediately condemned police specifically and "white people" as a whole (saying "we are better than this") and immediately sided with the black victim. She did not condemn the violence that ensured, nor the community's illegal actions in taking judgment into their own hands,

Does anyone other than me see the double standard here? Look how careful Hillary (and the other liberals) were not to rush to judgment against the Islamic terrorist, saying we don't have all the facts - yet when it's a white police officer involved, she immediately condemns all police and white people - whom she said she "can speak directly to" (!) before any investigation has occurred.

Instead, she should have said that although it doesn't look good for the cop, we have no facts and must not rush to judgment AND criticize the violence the erupted in the black community as a result. She is acting just like Obama - jumping to defend the black guy if a white guy is involved - without knowing anything about the incident. But at least Obama said the ensuing violence isn't the answer. Hillary is so desperate for the black vote that she's afraid to criticize their own unacceptable behavior.

Oh please! HRC is pandering to the black vote and unfortunately black voters will fall for it as they have for years. She says what they want to hear and then kicks them to the curb just like Barack. I was waiting for her to pull out her hot sauce! Let's look at the polls in a week as this will cost her more of the white vote because white voters are sick of this crap.

The fact was on video and the police officer is suspended. They went to arrest someone else and shot a totally different person in his back when he has his arms raised. You think if this happens to random white guys and the cops are blacks you would be quiet. You are raging against the blacks when it was an innocent black bystander who was wrongfully killed. You should be outraged that your fellow citizens are taken out by cops for no reason other than being black. Won't you be outraged if this happens regularly against innocent white guys?

I said it looks bad for the cop - but there hasn't been an investigation. My point is how Hillary rushes to judgment when a white kills a black - and condemned all whites - when she tiptoes around Islamic terrorists, reminding us how the "bad" Muslims are few and far between and most Muslims are peaceful (which is true). Why not apply the same standard here, saying that it's important to remember that these killings are few and far between (relatively speaking, considering how many cops there are) and that most cops are good people who risk their lives to protect the community? And why not say....let's not rush to judgment, as she said with the terrorist? Instead, she immediately takes sides, condemns all white people, and refuses to even say boo about the unacceptable black violence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ so all the officers were plain clothed? Link?

The officer who shot and killed Keith Scott was in plainclothes that much is certain. Are civilians trained to scope out every individual in the surrounding area in a moments notice and discern what constitutes a team of officers working collectively serving a warrant (possibly some in uniform teamed with some in plainclothes) as opposed to simply focusing on what looks like a random dude coming at them with a gun? C'mon... The cops are the ones who supposedly go through all this training and yet its the civilians who are held to the higher standard of knowing what to do and what not to do. The cops can be impulsive and overzealous and make mistakes but civilians aren't allowed to have any err in judgement. Okay. You got it.

If someone in a POLICE vest tells you to drop your weapon, yes, you should drop your weapon.

And what's the predesignated time frame to follow that order? I don't know how long after the command was given Keith Scott was shot but I do recall that Tamir Rice barely got more than two seconds of time to comply before he was gunned down.