Hillary to "Speak Directly to White People"!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"The protests broke out Tuesday after 43-year-old Keith Lamont Scott was fatally shot by a black officer at an apartment complex on the city's northeast side. They continued into early Wednesday morning, when TV footage showed dozens of protesters on Interstate 85 apparently looting semi-trucks and setting their contents on fire on the highway."

As a whole these protests are not protests but rather excuses to commit criminal acts. Much like some of those that remained behind in NOLA after Katrina who weren't stranded but saw an opportunity. How do we deal with criminal acts like this? Zero tolerance for all crime.

This insensitivity to what is happening to your fellow citizens of a different race on a daily basis is the reason for the mistrust of whites? Would you have made that comment and be so insensitive if white men are shot down by cops for no reason ? Therein lies your bigotism. Are blacks inferior to whites? Don't black lives matter to whites?

But he was shot by a black police officer! Blaming white people for everything is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton is white and a woman. What is wrong with her voicing her opinions based on her personal perspectives as a white person or as a woman? Are we really so naive to think politicians aren't individuals with distinct views capable of offering insight on issues through the lens of their individual experience and narrative?
If a gay man is elected to an office is he expected to keep his mouth shut on matters that he may have some perspective on? I can understand the objection to him initiating policy based solely on his sexuality but is he not allowed to speak to a community he is familiar with? Is he not allowed to call attention to events and issues within that community?
I hear posters on hear yapping all the time criticizing President Obama because he's black but doesn't address problems within the black community so why is Hillary being criticized for the opposite - being white and having the audacity to speak out about problems within the white community?

Maybe that's part of the problem right there. That a black president does NOT criticize the self-inflicted failings of the black community but it's fine for a white person to criticize white people. It's like whites are the only "safe" group one is allowed to criticize, because anything else is considered racism.

Maybe that is a problem. But ask yourself with regard to the ever popular refrain these days of "Deal with it", which form of racism would you rather be subjected to...criticism and political correctness or over-aggressive policing and racial profiling?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"The protests broke out Tuesday after 43-year-old Keith Lamont Scott was fatally shot by a black officer at an apartment complex on the city's northeast side. They continued into early Wednesday morning, when TV footage showed dozens of protesters on Interstate 85 apparently looting semi-trucks and setting their contents on fire on the highway."

As a whole these protests are not protests but rather excuses to commit criminal acts. Much like some of those that remained behind in NOLA after Katrina who weren't stranded but saw an opportunity. How do we deal with criminal acts like this? Zero tolerance for all crime.

This insensitivity to what is happening to your fellow citizens of a different race on a daily basis is the reason for the mistrust of whites? Would you have made that comment and be so insensitive if white men are shot down by cops for no reason ? Therein lies your bigotism. Are blacks inferior to whites? Don't black lives matter to whites?

But he was shot by a black police officer! Blaming white people for everything is ridiculous.

You are lying. See the post up thread. The officer was a white woman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?

It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?

Tell that to Hillary. She thinks white people need a slap-down.

White people like you and me need to be sensitive about what black population suffers through. We can't paint them with one broad brush. Will you be talking like this if this happens daily to white men? That is the insensitivity ? Show the same understanding to every human regardless of race.

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You don't think it happens to white men and women? And DAILY? You believe there are 365 killings of unarmed black men a year by police? Show some understanding of the facts.

it is simple. Tell me how many innocent white people are killed by cops unjustly? I didn't say every day a black man is killed by cops unjustly. But even one innocent black person killed by cops unjustly is one too many. ANY INNOCENT people killed by cops is one too many. So your turn without any more diversion and denials.

I agree that any innocent life taken is one too many and race isn't an issue unless it can be shown race was a reason. And you said ''happens daily to white men'', so what does that mean if not daily to black men. So, tell me how many innocent black people are killed by cops unjustly. After all, it is YOUR contention, not mine.

Thats 15 blacks in one year(April 2014 to April 2015). I couldn;t find any data for whites in the same category. Your turn. Ofcourse many whites and blacks are killed in gun fights or when resisting police orders. But thats not our discussion. I just want to make that clear because everyone immediately jump to a different number.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicholasquah/heres-a-timeline-of-unarmed-black-men-killed-by-police-over?utm_term=.jbPJNwqKr#.aweRMxkBA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton is white and a woman. What is wrong with her voicing her opinions based on her personal perspectives as a white person or as a woman? Are we really so naive to think politicians aren't individuals with distinct views capable of offering insight on issues through the lens of their individual experience and narrative?
If a gay man is elected to an office is he expected to keep his mouth shut on matters that he may have some perspective on? I can understand the objection to him initiating policy based solely on his sexuality but is he not allowed to speak to a community he is familiar with? Is he not allowed to call attention to events and issues within that community?
I hear posters on hear yapping all the time criticizing President Obama because he's black but doesn't address problems within the black community so why is Hillary being criticized for the opposite - being white and having the audacity to speak out about problems within the white community?

Maybe that's part of the problem right there. That a black president does NOT criticize the self-inflicted failings of the black community but it's fine for a white person to criticize white people. It's like whites are the only "safe" group one is allowed to criticize, because anything else is considered racism.

There are hundreds of links to prove how much Obama came down on blacks. Just a sample. You can google and find out and read and educate yourself. Because your complaint is so bogus.

Here is obama being criticized for being too harsh on blacks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/to-critics-obamas-scolding-tone-with-black-audiences-is-getting-old/2013/05/20/4b267352-c191-11e2-bfdb-3886a561c1ff_story.html

Obama: Blacks must be responsible. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5376339

http://www.theroot.com/blog/journal-isms/obamas_2013_morehouse_speech_whats_his_personal_responsibility_to_blacks/

[Anonymous]

Go away, Racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?

It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?

as was pointed out in the PP you're responding to (which apparently you didn't read:

77% are NOT BLACK.

but, only Black Lives Matter. Right?

You guys are really thick OR really diverting. My point has always been ABOUT HOW MANY UNARMED/INNOCENT white men were killed by cops. NOT HOW MANY WHITE MEN were killed by cops. Ofcourse many white and black and all criminals are killed by cops all the time. And simply because whites are 75% of the population Many more whites will be killed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The protests broke out Tuesday after 43-year-old Keith Lamont Scott was fatally shot by a black officer at an apartment complex on the city's northeast side. They continued into early Wednesday morning, when TV footage showed dozens of protesters on Interstate 85 apparently looting semi-trucks and setting their contents on fire on the highway."

As a whole these protests are not protests but rather excuses to commit criminal acts. Much like some of those that remained behind in NOLA after Katrina who weren't stranded but saw an opportunity. How do we deal with criminal acts like this? Zero tolerance for all crime.

This insensitivity to what is happening to your fellow citizens of a different race on a daily basis is the reason for the mistrust of whites? Would you have made that comment and be so insensitive if white men are shot down by cops for no reason ? Therein lies your bigotism. Are blacks inferior to whites? Don't black lives matter to whites?

But he was shot by a black police officer! Blaming white people for everything is ridiculous.

You are lying. See the post up thread. The officer was a white woman.

Two separate shootings. In Tulsa, Oklahoma a motorist in need of assistance named Terence Crutcher was shot and killed by a white police officer after being tasered.
That's not what the OP is referring to. The OP is referring to an incident in Charlotte, North Carolina where Keith Lamont Scott was shot and killed by an undercover black police officer who was in the area serving a warrant on another individual.
Stay calm and keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The protests broke out Tuesday after 43-year-old Keith Lamont Scott was fatally shot by a black officer at an apartment complex on the city's northeast side. They continued into early Wednesday morning, when TV footage showed dozens of protesters on Interstate 85 apparently looting semi-trucks and setting their contents on fire on the highway."

As a whole these protests are not protests but rather excuses to commit criminal acts. Much like some of those that remained behind in NOLA after Katrina who weren't stranded but saw an opportunity. How do we deal with criminal acts like this? Zero tolerance for all crime.

This insensitivity to what is happening to your fellow citizens of a different race on a daily basis is the reason for the mistrust of whites? Would you have made that comment and be so insensitive if white men are shot down by cops for no reason ? Therein lies your bigotism. Are blacks inferior to whites? Don't black lives matter to whites?

But he was shot by a black police officer! Blaming white people for everything is ridiculous.

You are lying. See the post up thread. The officer was a white woman.

Two separate shootings. In Tulsa, Oklahoma a motorist in need of assistance named Terence Crutcher was shot and killed by a white police officer after being tasered.
That's not what the OP is referring to. The OP is referring to an incident in Charlotte, North Carolina where Keith Lamont Scott was shot and killed by an undercover black police officer who was in the area serving a warrant on another individual.
Stay calm and keep up.

Hillary's interview with Steve Harvey was about the Tulsa shooting. See the bolded comment. So this thread is ridiculous. Someone is mixing up two issues. It does not make the comment about her statement (which is correct in the context) plain wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hillary's interview with Steve Harvey was about the Tulsa shooting. See the bolded comment. So this thread is ridiculous. Someone is mixing up two issues. It does not make the comment about her statement (which is correct in the context) plain wrong.

The OP has indeed confused the two incidents in terms of who Hillary was referencing - but its a safe guess that the OP was speaking specifically about Charlotte because of the comment, She did not condemn the violence that ensured, nor the community's illegal actions in taking judgment into their own hands. Such protest and unrest did not occur in Tulsa, it occurred in Charlotte.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hillary's interview with Steve Harvey was about the Tulsa shooting. See the bolded comment. So this thread is ridiculous. Someone is mixing up two issues. It does not make the comment about her statement (which is correct in the context) plain wrong.

The OP has indeed confused the two incidents in terms of who Hillary was referencing - but its a safe guess that the OP was speaking specifically about Charlotte because of the comment, She did not condemn the violence that ensured, nor the community's illegal actions in taking judgment into their own hands. Such protest and unrest did not occur in Tulsa, it occurred in Charlotte.

OP is completely ill informed in that case - Hillary's interview happened before Charlotte incident and riot. She can predict violence and tragedies like Trump can, you see.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?

It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?

Tell that to Hillary. She thinks white people need a slap-down.

White people like you and me need to be sensitive about what black population suffers through. We can't paint them with one broad brush. Will you be talking like this if this happens daily to white men? That is the insensitivity ? Show the same understanding to every human regardless of race.

np
You don't think it happens to white men and women? And DAILY? You believe there are 365 killings of unarmed black men a year by police? Show some understanding of the facts.

it is simple. Tell me how many innocent white people are killed by cops unjustly? I didn't say every day a black man is killed by cops unjustly. But even one innocent black person killed by cops unjustly is one too many. ANY INNOCENT people killed by cops is one too many. So your turn without any more diversion and denials.

I agree that any innocent life taken is one too many and race isn't an issue unless it can be shown race was a reason. And you said ''happens daily to white men'', so what does that mean if not daily to black men. So, tell me how many innocent black people are killed by cops unjustly. After all, it is YOUR contention, not mine.

Thats 15 blacks in one year(April 2014 to April 2015). I couldn;t find any data for whites in the same category. Your turn. Ofcourse many whites and blacks are killed in gun fights or when resisting police orders. But thats not our discussion. I just want to make that clear because everyone immediately jump to a different number.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicholasquah/heres-a-timeline-of-unarmed-black-men-killed-by-police-over?utm_term=.jbPJNwqKr#.aweRMxkBA

I would have no problem accepting the number you presented. But how many were unarmed but threatening. It has been forensically proven that he did in fact come in contact with the officer before being shot. But he was in fact, unarmed. Did the DOJ take up the case and pursue it?

If we are reasonable we must examine the fact that given the total numbers this isn't endemic but in fact a very small percentage. We could discuss the percentage of crime committed by race but again we won't be able to truly come to a conclusion because we would have to get a handle on how much of that is because blacks are treated differently in the area of crime and punishment. Do I believe they are? Yes, I do. Have I ever found a 'righteous' number that I can believe in as to how much is racial and how much isn't? No.

Unfortunately we will never know completely nor will we ever eradicate inequality or racism. And it isn't getting better, the racial divide is growing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The police have said he had a firearm. The family is disputing this. I have heard there is no video of this incident.

Having a firearm has suddenly become illegal America ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?

It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?

as was pointed out in the PP you're responding to (which apparently you didn't read:

77% are NOT BLACK.

but, only Black Lives Matter. Right?

You guys are really thick OR really diverting. My point has always been ABOUT HOW MANY UNARMED/INNOCENT white men were killed by cops. NOT HOW MANY WHITE MEN were killed by cops. Ofcourse many white and black and all criminals are killed by cops all the time. And simply because whites are 75% of the population Many more whites will be killed.

Whites are 61% of the population ( 2010 census )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was another killing of an unarmed black man by a white cop last night. In response, there was a riot in which blacks attacked cops and of course committed a lot of destruction. Although it doesn't look good for the officer, the facts are not yet in. And yet Hillary, in an effort to gain black support, has immediately condemned police specifically and "white people" as a whole (saying "we are better than this") and immediately sided with the black victim. She did not condemn the violence that ensured, nor the community's illegal actions in taking judgment into their own hands,

Does anyone other than me see the double standard here? Look how careful Hillary (and the other liberals) were not to rush to judgment against the Islamic terrorist, saying we don't have all the facts - yet when it's a white police officer involved, she immediately condemns all police and white people - whom she said she "can speak directly to" (!) before any investigation has occurred.

Instead, she should have said that although it doesn't look good for the cop, we have no facts and must not rush to judgment AND criticize the violence the erupted in the black community as a result. She is acting just like Obama - jumping to defend the black guy if a white guy is involved - without knowing anything about the incident. But at least Obama said the ensuing violence isn't the answer. Hillary is so desperate for the black vote that she's afraid to criticize their own unacceptable behavior.

The man in Charlotte was armed with a gun and witnesses have verified that.