Hillary to "Speak Directly to White People"!

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Anonymous wrote:She can talk to “white people” as much as she wants. Let her talk til she’s blue in the face.
There won’t be a lot of white people tuning into her message.
She is not respected, not trusted, and not a leader.

Who gives a shit ? The problem with you Caucasians( mostly males) is that you think what works for you should work for everybody else . She's the next president . Let it burn your heart

np
The feeling of superiority you are feeling will not change the inner knowledge of inferiority.

Speaking of inner knowledge, why is it that there is so much anxiety and anger among so many members of the white community regarding the continuing coverage of potentially race-based police shootings? Why is there so much fatigue and frustration among so many members of the white community regarding conversations about racism and racial profiling within law enforcement agencies?
I think the feeling of superiority these angry and frustrated whites are accustomed to is fleeting.
I think they're fearful that one of the last few societal structures that clearly depicted their elite stature and plainly demonstrated their dominance over long-heralded inferior groups is fading.
Law enforcement may not be the last system of systemic oppression left but it is without question the most significant and the reality that changes are imminent is just plain terrifying to some.

Why do you speculate so much? Why do you assume that what you are saying is reality? And please reveal yourself when you have been elected as spokesperson for the white community. Until then, please stop with the white community this and that nonsense.

I don't think the opinions I expressed are anywhere as insulting or inflammatory as some of the comments I've seen made about blacks - and I even had the courtesy to specify some, not all.
But hey, if problem take it to Jeff. I have complete confidence in his judgement as a moderator and you know what, he's white!
Go figure.

I am not offended nor do I believe it violated this sites terms. It was simple, your comments are too sweeping and is not reality. For instance, the challenge of white elitism. I would say that there are whites who might feel somewhat relieved they don't face what minorities face but that isn't elitism. And I am certain there are some who are holding onto that feeling of elitism. But I am also convinced it is not that pervasive as some would want others to believe and I know it isn't what it was. It seems that it is important for some to perpetuate what was in order to better validate what is now and that isn't reality unless it matches closely.

Well, I have been the target of racism so I have a modicum of understanding and I have lived through this past 50 years plus with this issue. Also, my family is racially mixed. Certainly that influences me on this subject.

Well surely someone of your experience can appreciate that reality is subjective for everyone based on their own experience. So surely you can also appreciate that my comments (which were not sweeping by the way as I simply mentioned so many whites not all or even most) are indicative of my own observations and experiences being the target of racism.

But you aren't relating your experience. You are pontificating on the anxiety, anger and fatigue etc. of ''so many whites'' as if that is the mood. When Hillary takes an incident that has yet to be determined and says she needs to speak directly to white people the reason it is insulting is simple, she is making it their issue. If that had been directed to the Black, or Hispanic or Asian communities because a person of their race committed an isolated act, I doubt there would be understanding. And lets face facts. As one person posted on here they counted 15 shootings in a years time of unarmed black men. One of which was Brown who was proven to have been doing more than standing there with his hands up, was not the gentle giant some tried to portray him as and in fact had a record of some violence. So, how pervasive is this? An average of about one a month? Too many? Sure. As much a happening as some want to make it? Only relates to a single race? What of the others?

We have laws that demand action. Apply those laws universally where applicable without exception. We even have special protections based on race so if a person gets out on the local level they will still answer to the feds. That has played a part in driving down the numbers and can do more to drive it down further. But there are human beings in those uniforms and there is never going to be a perfect world.

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Anonymous wrote:She can talk to “white people” as much as she wants. Let her talk til she’s blue in the face.
There won’t be a lot of white people tuning into her message.
She is not respected, not trusted, and not a leader.

Who gives a shit ? The problem with you Caucasians( mostly males) is that you think what works for you should work for everybody else . She's the next president . Let it burn your heart

np
The feeling of superiority you are feeling will not change the inner knowledge of inferiority.

Speaking of inner knowledge, why is it that there is so much anxiety and anger among so many members of the white community regarding the continuing coverage of potentially race-based police shootings? Why is there so much fatigue and frustration among so many members of the white community regarding conversations about racism and racial profiling within law enforcement agencies?
I think the feeling of superiority these angry and frustrated whites are accustomed to is fleeting.
I think they're fearful that one of the last few societal structures that clearly depicted their elite stature and plainly demonstrated their dominance over long-heralded inferior groups is fading.
Law enforcement may not be the last system of systemic oppression left but it is without question the most significant and the reality that changes are imminent is just plain terrifying to some.

Why do you speculate so much? Why do you assume that what you are saying is reality? And please reveal yourself when you have been elected as spokesperson for the white community. Until then, please stop with the white community this and that nonsense.

I don't think the opinions I expressed are anywhere as insulting or inflammatory as some of the comments I've seen made about blacks - and I even had the courtesy to specify some, not all.
But hey, if problem take it to Jeff. I have complete confidence in his judgement as a moderator and you know what, he's white!
Go figure.

I am not offended nor do I believe it violated this sites terms. It was simple, your comments are too sweeping and is not reality. For instance, the challenge of white elitism. I would say that there are whites who might feel somewhat relieved they don't face what minorities face but that isn't elitism. And I am certain there are some who are holding onto that feeling of elitism. But I am also convinced it is not that pervasive as some would want others to believe and I know it isn't what it was. It seems that it is important for some to perpetuate what was in order to better validate what is now and that isn't reality unless it matches closely.

Well, I have been the target of racism so I have a modicum of understanding and I have lived through this past 50 years plus with this issue. Also, my family is racially mixed. Certainly that influences me on this subject.

Well surely someone of your experience can appreciate that reality is subjective for everyone based on their own experience. So surely you can also appreciate that my comments (which were not sweeping by the way as I simply mentioned so many whites not all or even most) are indicative of my own observations and experiences being the target of racism.

But you aren't relating your experience. You are pontificating on the anxiety, anger and fatigue etc. of ''so many whites'' as if that is the mood. When Hillary takes an incident that has yet to be determined and says she needs to speak directly to white people the reason it is insulting is simple, she is making it their issue. If that had been directed to the Black, or Hispanic or Asian communities because a person of their race committed an isolated act, I doubt there would be understanding. And lets face facts. As one person posted on here they counted 15 shootings in a years time of unarmed black men. One of which was Brown who was proven to have been doing more than standing there with his hands up, was not the gentle giant some tried to portray him as and in fact had a record of some violence. So, how pervasive is this? An average of about one a month? Too many? Sure. As much a happening as some want to make it? Only relates to a single race? What of the others?

We have laws that demand action. Apply those laws universally where applicable without exception. We even have special protections based on race so if a person gets out on the local level they will still answer to the feds. That has played a part in driving down the numbers and can do more to drive it down further. But there are human beings in those uniforms and there is never going to be a perfect world.

I'm "pontificating" on the root cause of the attitudes and sentiments expressed among so many in the white community. Doesn't have anything to do with Michael Brown or how many unarmed blacks have been killed in XX amount of time...it has to do with the heightened anger and anxieties I've observed among so many whites and the fact that the fervor of their fears and frustrations has reached a fever pitch in recent years because in my opinion it's evident that changes are imminent. It's not the facts of guilt or innocence or the stats of incidents in relation to population that people are so worked up about its the inevitable reforms and repercussions that will result that bothers them. They don't want to see blacks make gains societally because they fear they will suffer losses in the process.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She can talk to “white people” as much as she wants. Let her talk til she’s blue in the face.
There won’t be a lot of white people tuning into her message.
She is not respected, not trusted, and not a leader.

Who gives a shit ? The problem with you Caucasians( mostly males) is that you think what works for you should work for everybody else . She's the next president . Let it burn your heart

np
The feeling of superiority you are feeling will not change the inner knowledge of inferiority.

Speaking of inner knowledge, why is it that there is so much anxiety and anger among so many members of the white community regarding the continuing coverage of potentially race-based police shootings? Why is there so much fatigue and frustration among so many members of the white community regarding conversations about racism and racial profiling within law enforcement agencies?
I think the feeling of superiority these angry and frustrated whites are accustomed to is fleeting.
I think they're fearful that one of the last few societal structures that clearly depicted their elite stature and plainly demonstrated their dominance over long-heralded inferior groups is fading.
Law enforcement may not be the last system of systemic oppression left but it is without question the most significant and the reality that changes are imminent is just plain terrifying to some.

Why do you speculate so much? Why do you assume that what you are saying is reality? And please reveal yourself when you have been elected as spokesperson for the white community. Until then, please stop with the white community this and that nonsense.

I don't think the opinions I expressed are anywhere as insulting or inflammatory as some of the comments I've seen made about blacks - and I even had the courtesy to specify some, not all.
But hey, if problem take it to Jeff. I have complete confidence in his judgement as a moderator and you know what, he's white!
Go figure.

I am not offended nor do I believe it violated this sites terms. It was simple, your comments are too sweeping and is not reality. For instance, the challenge of white elitism. I would say that there are whites who might feel somewhat relieved they don't face what minorities face but that isn't elitism. And I am certain there are some who are holding onto that feeling of elitism. But I am also convinced it is not that pervasive as some would want others to believe and I know it isn't what it was. It seems that it is important for some to perpetuate what was in order to better validate what is now and that isn't reality unless it matches closely.

Well, I have been the target of racism so I have a modicum of understanding and I have lived through this past 50 years plus with this issue. Also, my family is racially mixed. Certainly that influences me on this subject.

Well surely someone of your experience can appreciate that reality is subjective for everyone based on their own experience. So surely you can also appreciate that my comments (which were not sweeping by the way as I simply mentioned so many whites not all or even most) are indicative of my own observations and experiences being the target of racism.

But you aren't relating your experience. You are pontificating on the anxiety, anger and fatigue etc. of ''so many whites'' as if that is the mood. When Hillary takes an incident that has yet to be determined and says she needs to speak directly to white people the reason it is insulting is simple, she is making it their issue. If that had been directed to the Black, or Hispanic or Asian communities because a person of their race committed an isolated act, I doubt there would be understanding. And lets face facts. As one person posted on here they counted 15 shootings in a years time of unarmed black men. One of which was Brown who was proven to have been doing more than standing there with his hands up, was not the gentle giant some tried to portray him as and in fact had a record of some violence. So, how pervasive is this? An average of about one a month? Too many? Sure. As much a happening as some want to make it? Only relates to a single race? What of the others?

We have laws that demand action. Apply those laws universally where applicable without exception. We even have special protections based on race so if a person gets out on the local level they will still answer to the feds. That has played a part in driving down the numbers and can do more to drive it down further. But there are human beings in those uniforms and there is never going to be a perfect world.

I'm "pontificating" on the root cause of the attitudes and sentiments expressed among so many in the white community. Doesn't have anything to do with Michael Brown or how many unarmed blacks have been killed in XX amount of time...it has to do with the heightened anger and anxieties I've observed among so many whites and the fact that the fervor of their fears and frustrations has reached a fever pitch in recent years because in my opinion it's evident that changes are imminent. It's not the facts of guilt or innocence or the stats of incidents in relation to population that people are so worked up about its the inevitable reforms and repercussions that will result that bothers them. They don't want to see blacks make gains societally because they fear they will suffer losses in the process.

Well then, you hang around some insecure, immature, and possibly racist, people who happen to be white. Sad, but not representative. Which is what you are promoting that they are. And frankly I don't understand why you are a part of their world or are at the very least wasting your time observing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She can talk to “white people” as much as she wants. Let her talk til she’s blue in the face.
There won’t be a lot of white people tuning into her message.
She is not respected, not trusted, and not a leader.

Who gives a shit ? The problem with you Caucasians( mostly males) is that you think what works for you should work for everybody else . She's the next president . Let it burn your heart

np
The feeling of superiority you are feeling will not change the inner knowledge of inferiority.

Speaking of inner knowledge, why is it that there is so much anxiety and anger among so many members of the white community regarding the continuing coverage of potentially race-based police shootings? Why is there so much fatigue and frustration among so many members of the white community regarding conversations about racism and racial profiling within law enforcement agencies?
I think the feeling of superiority these angry and frustrated whites are accustomed to is fleeting.
I think they're fearful that one of the last few societal structures that clearly depicted their elite stature and plainly demonstrated their dominance over long-heralded inferior groups is fading.
Law enforcement may not be the last system of systemic oppression left but it is without question the most significant and the reality that changes are imminent is just plain terrifying to some.

Why do you speculate so much? Why do you assume that what you are saying is reality? And please reveal yourself when you have been elected as spokesperson for the white community. Until then, please stop with the white community this and that nonsense.

I don't think the opinions I expressed are anywhere as insulting or inflammatory as some of the comments I've seen made about blacks - and I even had the courtesy to specify some, not all.
But hey, if problem take it to Jeff. I have complete confidence in his judgement as a moderator and you know what, he's white!
Go figure.

I am not offended nor do I believe it violated this sites terms. It was simple, your comments are too sweeping and is not reality. For instance, the challenge of white elitism. I would say that there are whites who might feel somewhat relieved they don't face what minorities face but that isn't elitism. And I am certain there are some who are holding onto that feeling of elitism. But I am also convinced it is not that pervasive as some would want others to believe and I know it isn't what it was. It seems that it is important for some to perpetuate what was in order to better validate what is now and that isn't reality unless it matches closely.

Well, I have been the target of racism so I have a modicum of understanding and I have lived through this past 50 years plus with this issue. Also, my family is racially mixed. Certainly that influences me on this subject.

Well surely someone of your experience can appreciate that reality is subjective for everyone based on their own experience. So surely you can also appreciate that my comments (which were not sweeping by the way as I simply mentioned so many whites not all or even most) are indicative of my own observations and experiences being the target of racism.

But you aren't relating your experience. You are pontificating on the anxiety, anger and fatigue etc. of ''so many whites'' as if that is the mood. When Hillary takes an incident that has yet to be determined and says she needs to speak directly to white people the reason it is insulting is simple, she is making it their issue. If that had been directed to the Black, or Hispanic or Asian communities because a person of their race committed an isolated act, I doubt there would be understanding. And lets face facts. As one person posted on here they counted 15 shootings in a years time of unarmed black men. One of which was Brown who was proven to have been doing more than standing there with his hands up, was not the gentle giant some tried to portray him as and in fact had a record of some violence. So, how pervasive is this? An average of about one a month? Too many? Sure. As much a happening as some want to make it? Only relates to a single race? What of the others?

We have laws that demand action. Apply those laws universally where applicable without exception. We even have special protections based on race so if a person gets out on the local level they will still answer to the feds. That has played a part in driving down the numbers and can do more to drive it down further. But there are human beings in those uniforms and there is never going to be a perfect world.

I'm "pontificating" on the root cause of the attitudes and sentiments expressed among so many in the white community. Doesn't have anything to do with Michael Brown or how many unarmed blacks have been killed in XX amount of time...it has to do with the heightened anger and anxieties I've observed among so many whites and the fact that the fervor of their fears and frustrations has reached a fever pitch in recent years because in my opinion it's evident that changes are imminent. It's not the facts of guilt or innocence or the stats of incidents in relation to population that people are so worked up about its the inevitable reforms and repercussions that will result that bothers them. They don't want to see blacks make gains societally because they fear they will suffer losses in the process.

Blah blah blah.

Sometimes reality is quite simple.

Michael Brown was a thug who was justifiably killed while repeatedly attacking a policeman who was doing his best to protect the community.

All the BLM folks who led violent riots (hint: it's not the same as protests) are thugs too.

This has little to do with race. It has to do with civilized behavior.

Get it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She can talk to “white people” as much as she wants. Let her talk til she’s blue in the face.
There won’t be a lot of white people tuning into her message.
She is not respected, not trusted, and not a leader.

Who gives a shit ? The problem with you Caucasians( mostly males) is that you think what works for you should work for everybody else . She's the next president . Let it burn your heart

np
The feeling of superiority you are feeling will not change the inner knowledge of inferiority.

Speaking of inner knowledge, why is it that there is so much anxiety and anger among so many members of the white community regarding the continuing coverage of potentially race-based police shootings? Why is there so much fatigue and frustration among so many members of the white community regarding conversations about racism and racial profiling within law enforcement agencies?
I think the feeling of superiority these angry and frustrated whites are accustomed to is fleeting.
I think they're fearful that one of the last few societal structures that clearly depicted their elite stature and plainly demonstrated their dominance over long-heralded inferior groups is fading.
Law enforcement may not be the last system of systemic oppression left but it is without question the most significant and the reality that changes are imminent is just plain terrifying to some.

Why do you speculate so much? Why do you assume that what you are saying is reality? And please reveal yourself when you have been elected as spokesperson for the white community. Until then, please stop with the white community this and that nonsense.

I don't think the opinions I expressed are anywhere as insulting or inflammatory as some of the comments I've seen made about blacks - and I even had the courtesy to specify some, not all.
But hey, if problem take it to Jeff. I have complete confidence in his judgement as a moderator and you know what, he's white!
Go figure.

I am not offended nor do I believe it violated this sites terms. It was simple, your comments are too sweeping and is not reality. For instance, the challenge of white elitism. I would say that there are whites who might feel somewhat relieved they don't face what minorities face but that isn't elitism. And I am certain there are some who are holding onto that feeling of elitism. But I am also convinced it is not that pervasive as some would want others to believe and I know it isn't what it was. It seems that it is important for some to perpetuate what was in order to better validate what is now and that isn't reality unless it matches closely.

Well, I have been the target of racism so I have a modicum of understanding and I have lived through this past 50 years plus with this issue. Also, my family is racially mixed. Certainly that influences me on this subject.

Well surely someone of your experience can appreciate that reality is subjective for everyone based on their own experience. So surely you can also appreciate that my comments (which were not sweeping by the way as I simply mentioned so many whites not all or even most) are indicative of my own observations and experiences being the target of racism.

But you aren't relating your experience. You are pontificating on the anxiety, anger and fatigue etc. of ''so many whites'' as if that is the mood. When Hillary takes an incident that has yet to be determined and says she needs to speak directly to white people the reason it is insulting is simple, she is making it their issue. If that had been directed to the Black, or Hispanic or Asian communities because a person of their race committed an isolated act, I doubt there would be understanding. And lets face facts. As one person posted on here they counted 15 shootings in a years time of unarmed black men. One of which was Brown who was proven to have been doing more than standing there with his hands up, was not the gentle giant some tried to portray him as and in fact had a record of some violence. So, how pervasive is this? An average of about one a month? Too many? Sure. As much a happening as some want to make it? Only relates to a single race? What of the others?

We have laws that demand action. Apply those laws universally where applicable without exception. We even have special protections based on race so if a person gets out on the local level they will still answer to the feds. That has played a part in driving down the numbers and can do more to drive it down further. But there are human beings in those uniforms and there is never going to be a perfect world.

I'm "pontificating" on the root cause of the attitudes and sentiments expressed among so many in the white community. Doesn't have anything to do with Michael Brown or how many unarmed blacks have been killed in XX amount of time...it has to do with the heightened anger and anxieties I've observed among so many whites and the fact that the fervor of their fears and frustrations has reached a fever pitch in recent years because in my opinion it's evident that changes are imminent. It's not the facts of guilt or innocence or the stats of incidents in relation to population that people are so worked up about its the inevitable reforms and repercussions that will result that bothers them. They don't want to see blacks make gains societally because they fear they will suffer losses in the process.

Well then, you hang around some insecure, immature, and possibly racist, people who happen to be white. Sad, but not representative. Which is what you are promoting that they are. And frankly I don't understand why you are a part of their world or are at the very least wasting your time observing.

Will wonders never cease...
I was just going to say someone must be insecure, immature, or possibly racist if they're insulted by Hillary saying "maybe she can talk to whites".
Go figure!