Hillary to "Speak Directly to White People"!

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Hillary is an idiot and divisive. Female police officer in Tulsa said the suspect was unresponsive to commands. PCP was found in the car of the suspect. If the autopsy reveals there was PCP in his system, officer Shelby is justified. People on PCP are dangerous and immune to non-lethal techniques as they're too much under the influence. Officer Shelby just wants to go home at the end of the, that's what most of us want. As a former LEO I support her.
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Anonymous wrote:The police have said he had a firearm. The family is disputing this. I have heard there is no video of this incident.

And Brown was a big teddy bear that wouldn't hurt a flea.

Injustice should always be rectified 100% of the time in a perfect world and while that isn't possible it should be attempted in every case when it's identified in a civil society. But a rush to judge is absolutely wrong. I wonder how many hangings from mobs taking the law into their own hands had an innocent person at the end of the rope.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton is white and a woman. What is wrong with her voicing her opinions based on her personal perspectives as a white person or as a woman? Are we really so naive to think politicians aren't individuals with distinct views capable of offering insight on issues through the lens of their individual experience and narrative?
If a gay man is elected to an office is he expected to keep his mouth shut on matters that he may have some perspective on? I can understand the objection to him initiating policy based solely on his sexuality but is he not allowed to speak to a community he is familiar with? Is he not allowed to call attention to events and issues within that community?
I hear posters on hear yapping all the time criticizing President Obama because he's black but doesn't address problems within the black community so why is Hillary being criticized for the opposite - being white and having the audacity to speak out about problems within the white community?

Maybe that's part of the problem right there. That a black president does NOT criticize the self-inflicted failings of the black community but it's fine for a white person to criticize white people. It's like whites are the only "safe" group one is allowed to criticize, because anything else is considered racism.



+1 This is exactly it.
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Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?


It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?


Tell that to Hillary. She thinks white people need a slap-down.


White people like you and me need to be sensitive about what black population suffers through. We can't paint them with one broad brush. Will you be talking like this if this happens daily to white men? That is the insensitivity ? Show the same understanding to every human regardless of race.

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You don't think it happens to white men and women? And DAILY? You believe there are 365 killings of unarmed black men a year by police? Show some understanding of the facts.


it is simple. Tell me how many innocent white people are killed by cops unjustly? I didn't say every day a black man is killed by cops unjustly. But even one innocent black person killed by cops unjustly is one too many. ANY INNOCENT people killed by cops is one too many. So your turn without any more diversion and denials.

I agree that any innocent life taken is one too many and race isn't an issue unless it can be shown race was a reason. And you said ''happens daily to white men'', so what does that mean if not daily to black men. So, tell me how many innocent black people are killed by cops unjustly. After all, it is YOUR contention, not mine.


Thats 15 blacks in one year(April 2014 to April 2015). I couldn;t find any data for whites in the same category. Your turn. Ofcourse many whites and blacks are killed in gun fights or when resisting police orders. But thats not our discussion. I just want to make that clear because everyone immediately jump to a different number.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicholasquah/heres-a-timeline-of-unarmed-black-men-killed-by-police-over?utm_term=.jbPJNwqKr#.aweRMxkBA

I would have no problem accepting the number you presented. But how many were unarmed but threatening. It has been forensically proven that he did in fact come in contact with the officer before being shot. But he was in fact, unarmed. Did the DOJ take up the case and pursue it?

If we are reasonable we must examine the fact that given the total numbers this isn't endemic but in fact a very small percentage. We could discuss the percentage of crime committed by race but again we won't be able to truly come to a conclusion because we would have to get a handle on how much of that is because blacks are treated differently in the area of crime and punishment. Do I believe they are? Yes, I do. Have I ever found a 'righteous' number that I can believe in as to how much is racial and how much isn't? No.

Unfortunately we will never know completely nor will we ever eradicate inequality or racism. And it isn't getting better, the racial divide is growing.


This is not a small number, one is one too many. By your logic terrorists killing Americans is much smaller number than a white man with a gun involved in mass murders, terrorism and hate crimes. Why is terrorism by muslim americans given such a big focus while terrorism by white man is buried under the rug? Same way you are burying the cop killings and reasoning away. That is the insensitivity. Why couldn't you say, yes, this is wrong, this has to stop. NO MORE BUTS. PERIOD. I am white and I am able to say that because I am sensitive and I am objective and I have relatives in all races. That gives a different perspective about live and humanity.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton is white and a woman. What is wrong with her voicing her opinions based on her personal perspectives as a white person or as a woman? Are we really so naive to think politicians aren't individuals with distinct views capable of offering insight on issues through the lens of their individual experience and narrative?
If a gay man is elected to an office is he expected to keep his mouth shut on matters that he may have some perspective on? I can understand the objection to him initiating policy based solely on his sexuality but is he not allowed to speak to a community he is familiar with? Is he not allowed to call attention to events and issues within that community?
I hear posters on hear yapping all the time criticizing President Obama because he's black but doesn't address problems within the black community so why is Hillary being criticized for the opposite - being white and having the audacity to speak out about problems within the white community?

Maybe that's part of the problem right there. That a black president does NOT criticize the self-inflicted failings of the black community but it's fine for a white person to criticize white people. It's like whites are the only "safe" group one is allowed to criticize, because anything else is considered racism.



There are hundreds of links to prove how much Obama came down on blacks. Just a sample. You can google and find out and read and educate yourself. Because your complaint is so bogus.

Here is obama being criticized for being too harsh on blacks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/to-critics-obamas-scolding-tone-with-black-audiences-is-getting-old/2013/05/20/4b267352-c191-11e2-bfdb-3886a561c1ff_story.html

Obama: Blacks must be responsible. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5376339

http://www.theroot.com/blog/journal-isms/obamas_2013_morehouse_speech_whats_his_personal_responsibility_to_blacks/

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Why are your links from 2013? Anything recent?
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Anonymous wrote:There was another killing of an unarmed black man by a white cop last night. In response, there was a riot in which blacks attacked cops and of course committed a lot of destruction. Although it doesn't look good for the officer, the facts are not yet in. And yet Hillary, in an effort to gain black support, has immediately condemned police specifically and "white people" as a whole (saying "we are better than this") and immediately sided with the black victim. She did not condemn the violence that ensured, nor the community's illegal actions in taking judgment into their own hands,

Does anyone other than me see the double standard here? Look how careful Hillary (and the other liberals) were not to rush to judgment against the Islamic terrorist, saying we don't have all the facts - yet when it's a white police officer involved, she immediately condemns all police and white people - whom she said she "can speak directly to" (!) before any investigation has occurred.

Instead, she should have said that although it doesn't look good for the cop, we have no facts and must not rush to judgment AND criticize the violence the erupted in the black community as a result. She is acting just like Obama - jumping to defend the black guy if a white guy is involved - without knowing anything about the incident. But at least Obama said the ensuing violence isn't the answer. Hillary is so desperate for the black vote that she's afraid to criticize their own unacceptable behavior.


You do not get it and will never get it. Another cop kill's a black person and you think she should not spoken? She was not rushing to judgement. This is unacceptable behavior of the cop. Whether the black person was guilty or innocent, cops do not have the right to kill. Even if it is a terrorist, cops do not have right to kill, unless it is to protect others or self defense.

How do you compare her not "rushing to judgement" about whether an event is bombing or something else; someone motivated by extremism or personal grievance; connected or unconnected etc to denouncing a cop killing another black?


No. She was correct to have spoken. But what she said was wrong. Why is she condemning all police and all white people - especially when we are repeatedly admonished not to harbor ill will toward Muslims in general because of a few bad apples? I really resent when she said "I can speak directly to white people" - as if we all need a scolding. Can you imagine if she said, following the terrorist attack, that "Muslims are better than this" and that she "will speak directly to Muslims"? It's the double standard.


I heard her statement. Didn't sound like she was condemning all white people to me.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton is white and a woman. What is wrong with her voicing her opinions based on her personal perspectives as a white person or as a woman? Are we really so naive to think politicians aren't individuals with distinct views capable of offering insight on issues through the lens of their individual experience and narrative?
If a gay man is elected to an office is he expected to keep his mouth shut on matters that he may have some perspective on? I can understand the objection to him initiating policy based solely on his sexuality but is he not allowed to speak to a community he is familiar with? Is he not allowed to call attention to events and issues within that community?
I hear posters on hear yapping all the time criticizing President Obama because he's black but doesn't address problems within the black community so why is Hillary being criticized for the opposite - being white and having the audacity to speak out about problems within the white community?

Maybe that's part of the problem right there. That a black president does NOT criticize the self-inflicted failings of the black community but it's fine for a white person to criticize white people. It's like whites are the only "safe" group one is allowed to criticize, because anything else is considered racism.



There are hundreds of links to prove how much Obama came down on blacks. Just a sample. You can google and find out and read and educate yourself. Because your complaint is so bogus.

Here is obama being criticized for being too harsh on blacks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/to-critics-obamas-scolding-tone-with-black-audiences-is-getting-old/2013/05/20/4b267352-c191-11e2-bfdb-3886a561c1ff_story.html

Obama: Blacks must be responsible. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5376339

http://www.theroot.com/blog/journal-isms/obamas_2013_morehouse_speech_whats_his_personal_responsibility_to_blacks/

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Why are your links from 2013? Anything recent?


Lazy ass idiot. How does it change the fact that he has been criticizing blacks. I am pretty sure he hasn't stopped saying it in the past 3 years. You are the one who needs some critisizing and get you fixed for not being responsible, not reading up, not having the intellect.
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Hillary is an idiot and divisive. Female police officer in Tulsa said the suspect was unresponsive to commands. PCP was found in the car of the suspect. If the autopsy reveals there was PCP in his system, officer Shelby is justified. People on PCP are dangerous and immune to non-lethal techniques as they're too much under the influence. Officer Shelby just wants to go home at the end of the, that's what most of us want. As a former LEO I support her.


That's what they said. You clearly have never seen someone on PCP. He would not have been acting like the man in the video. His hands were up. What more could she have been telling him. What didn't he follow? His car broke down. Damn, a black man's car can't break down?

Of course you support her. Her husband told her he looked shady from the helicopter. How can you tell from a helicopter?

She said she made a mistake and shot him instead of tasing him.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton is white and a woman. What is wrong with her voicing her opinions based on her personal perspectives as a white person or as a woman? Are we really so naive to think politicians aren't individuals with distinct views capable of offering insight on issues through the lens of their individual experience and narrative?
If a gay man is elected to an office is he expected to keep his mouth shut on matters that he may have some perspective on? I can understand the objection to him initiating policy based solely on his sexuality but is he not allowed to speak to a community he is familiar with? Is he not allowed to call attention to events and issues within that community?
I hear posters on hear yapping all the time criticizing President Obama because he's black but doesn't address problems within the black community so why is Hillary being criticized for the opposite - being white and having the audacity to speak out about problems within the white community?

Maybe that's part of the problem right there. That a black president does NOT criticize the self-inflicted failings of the black community but it's fine for a white person to criticize white people. It's like whites are the only "safe" group one is allowed to criticize, because anything else is considered racism.



+1 This is exactly it.


Really?? How the hell do you know. He talks about it all the time.
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Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?


It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?


Tell that to Hillary. She thinks white people need a slap-down.


White people like you and me need to be sensitive about what black population suffers through. We can't paint them with one broad brush. Will you be talking like this if this happens daily to white men? That is the insensitivity ? Show the same understanding to every human regardless of race.

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You don't think it happens to white men and women? And DAILY? You believe there are 365 killings of unarmed black men a year by police? Show some understanding of the facts.


it is simple. Tell me how many innocent white people are killed by cops unjustly? I didn't say every day a black man is killed by cops unjustly. But even one innocent black person killed by cops unjustly is one too many. ANY INNOCENT people killed by cops is one too many. So your turn without any more diversion and denials.

I agree that any innocent life taken is one too many and race isn't an issue unless it can be shown race was a reason. And you said ''happens daily to white men'', so what does that mean if not daily to black men. So, tell me how many innocent black people are killed by cops unjustly. After all, it is YOUR contention, not mine.


Thats 15 blacks in one year(April 2014 to April 2015). I couldn;t find any data for whites in the same category. Your turn. Ofcourse many whites and blacks are killed in gun fights or when resisting police orders. But thats not our discussion. I just want to make that clear because everyone immediately jump to a different number.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicholasquah/heres-a-timeline-of-unarmed-black-men-killed-by-police-over?utm_term=.jbPJNwqKr#.aweRMxkBA

I would have no problem accepting the number you presented. But how many were unarmed but threatening. It has been forensically proven that he did in fact come in contact with the officer before being shot. But he was in fact, unarmed. Did the DOJ take up the case and pursue it?

If we are reasonable we must examine the fact that given the total numbers this isn't endemic but in fact a very small percentage. We could discuss the percentage of crime committed by race but again we won't be able to truly come to a conclusion because we would have to get a handle on how much of that is because blacks are treated differently in the area of crime and punishment. Do I believe they are? Yes, I do. Have I ever found a 'righteous' number that I can believe in as to how much is racial and how much isn't? No.

Unfortunately we will never know completely nor will we ever eradicate inequality or racism. And it isn't getting better, the racial divide is growing.


This is not a small number, one is one too many. By your logic terrorists killing Americans is much smaller number than a white man with a gun involved in mass murders, terrorism and hate crimes. Why is terrorism by muslim americans given such a big focus while terrorism by white man is buried under the rug? Same way you are burying the cop killings and reasoning away. That is the insensitivity. Why couldn't you say, yes, this is wrong, this has to stop. NO MORE BUTS. PERIOD. I am white and I am able to say that because I am sensitive and I am objective and I have relatives in all races. That gives a different perspective about live and humanity.


Part of my response disappeared when I hit submit so I must have inadvertently erased it.

First, I did say that one is too many. I also referred to your link and my reference was to Michael Brown, who was included in your link among the 15. So, because I question that I am insensitive? Nonsense.

And now you are off on white men being terrorist and it being buried under the rug. Which if we follow that logic we have get into the number of blacks killing whites and other blacks and who white people are killing etc.

FWIW, it will NEVER stop so long as you have human beings policing other human beings. And we should NEVER stop considering all aspects rather than focusing on only one. That is what a just society does. In a perfect society all are treated equally. We can strive for greater justice we will never attain perfection.
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton is white and a woman. What is wrong with her voicing her opinions based on her personal perspectives as a white person or as a woman? Are we really so naive to think politicians aren't individuals with distinct views capable of offering insight on issues through the lens of their individual experience and narrative?
If a gay man is elected to an office is he expected to keep his mouth shut on matters that he may have some perspective on? I can understand the objection to him initiating policy based solely on his sexuality but is he not allowed to speak to a community he is familiar with? Is he not allowed to call attention to events and issues within that community?
I hear posters on hear yapping all the time criticizing President Obama because he's black but doesn't address problems within the black community so why is Hillary being criticized for the opposite - being white and having the audacity to speak out about problems within the white community?

Maybe that's part of the problem right there. That a black president does NOT criticize the self-inflicted failings of the black community but it's fine for a white person to criticize white people. It's like whites are the only "safe" group one is allowed to criticize, because anything else is considered racism.



There are hundreds of links to prove how much Obama came down on blacks. Just a sample. You can google and find out and read and educate yourself. Because your complaint is so bogus.

Here is obama being criticized for being too harsh on blacks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/to-critics-obamas-scolding-tone-with-black-audiences-is-getting-old/2013/05/20/4b267352-c191-11e2-bfdb-3886a561c1ff_story.html

Obama: Blacks must be responsible. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5376339

http://www.theroot.com/blog/journal-isms/obamas_2013_morehouse_speech_whats_his_personal_responsibility_to_blacks/

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Why are your links from 2013? Anything recent?


Lazy ass idiot. How does it change the fact that he has been criticizing blacks. I am pretty sure he hasn't stopped saying it in the past 3 years. You are the one who needs some critisizing and get you fixed for not being responsible, not reading up, not having the intellect.

You're FOS. YOU provided the links so why didn't YOU give something more recent if it was so easy to find. And I will bypass the easy target you presented in your response.
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Anonymous wrote:There's really nothing left but to insult your intelligence, for you aren't bright. From her Facebook page: "Another unarmed black man was shot in a police incident. How many times do we have to see this in our country? This is just unbearable, and it needs to be intolerable. And so maybe I can, by speaking directly to white people, say, look, this is not who we are. We’ve got to do everything possible to improve policing, to go right at implicit bias. There are good, honorable, cool-headed police officers. We have seen them in action in New York over the last 48 hours because of the terrorist attacks. We can do better. We have got to rein in what is absolutely inexplicable. And we have got to have law enforcement respect communities and communities respect law enforcement because they have to work together."

Where does she "condemn" white people? Where does she "condemn" police officers? If there are so many unarmed white people gunned down, surely you can provide their names. Did you ever read Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars That Tell Them? Of course not. But there's a chapter in that book in which he talks about loving America (here you could substitute white people and police officers) like a grown up - it doesn't mean it has to be revered as perfect, it means you can love the good parts and work to fix the bad parts. You're kidding yourself if you don't think we white people have some stuff to fix.


Listen to yourself.
Let me just change your sentence ever so slightly.
“You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think black people have some stuff to fix.”

Anyone who says something like this would be labeled a racist. To group all people, of ANY color, into one group as you have done and as Hillary has done is just plain wrong.


No, it's not "plain wrong," and you didn't respond to any of the substance in my post.

Clearly, something is wrong when the default for a shocking number of officers is to shoot a black person when that black person is unarmed or near their broken down car or is following the officer's instructions. Do you know why these killings are such a big deal to the AA community? And I'm a white person, an outsider to the AA community, but it seems to go a little something like this (and I won't go too far back in time because I know it bothers white supremacists to hear about slavery): black people have been subject to very uneven official policing - aggressive enforcement of minor issues, disparate sentencing, community concerns being ignored, as well as unofficial policing. What kind of coverage do missing black people get? Relisha is the only one I can think of getting significant coverage. And then let's talk about the real ugly apple - lynching. That wasn't so long ago, and law enforcement usually enabled it or looked the other way.

Can you really not see that as a community, white people have some work to do?
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Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?


It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?


Tell that to Hillary. She thinks white people need a slap-down.


White people like you and me need to be sensitive about what black population suffers through. We can't paint them with one broad brush. Will you be talking like this if this happens daily to white men? That is the insensitivity ? Show the same understanding to every human regardless of race.

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You don't think it happens to white men and women? And DAILY? You believe there are 365 killings of unarmed black men a year by police? Show some understanding of the facts.


it is simple. Tell me how many innocent white people are killed by cops unjustly? I didn't say every day a black man is killed by cops unjustly. But even one innocent black person killed by cops unjustly is one too many. ANY INNOCENT people killed by cops is one too many. So your turn without any more diversion and denials.

I agree that any innocent life taken is one too many and race isn't an issue unless it can be shown race was a reason. And you said ''happens daily to white men'', so what does that mean if not daily to black men. So, tell me how many innocent black people are killed by cops unjustly. After all, it is YOUR contention, not mine.


Thats 15 blacks in one year(April 2014 to April 2015). I couldn;t find any data for whites in the same category. Your turn. Ofcourse many whites and blacks are killed in gun fights or when resisting police orders. But thats not our discussion. I just want to make that clear because everyone immediately jump to a different number.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicholasquah/heres-a-timeline-of-unarmed-black-men-killed-by-police-over?utm_term=.jbPJNwqKr#.aweRMxkBA

I would have no problem accepting the number you presented. But how many were unarmed but threatening. It has been forensically proven that he did in fact come in contact with the officer before being shot. But he was in fact, unarmed. Did the DOJ take up the case and pursue it?

If we are reasonable we must examine the fact that given the total numbers this isn't endemic but in fact a very small percentage. We could discuss the percentage of crime committed by race but again we won't be able to truly come to a conclusion because we would have to get a handle on how much of that is because blacks are treated differently in the area of crime and punishment. Do I believe they are? Yes, I do. Have I ever found a 'righteous' number that I can believe in as to how much is racial and how much isn't? No.

Unfortunately we will never know completely nor will we ever eradicate inequality or racism. And it isn't getting better, the racial divide is growing.


This is not a small number, one is one too many. By your logic terrorists killing Americans is much smaller number than a white man with a gun involved in mass murders, terrorism and hate crimes. Why is terrorism by muslim americans given such a big focus while terrorism by white man is buried under the rug? Same way you are burying the cop killings and reasoning away. That is the insensitivity. Why couldn't you say, yes, this is wrong, this has to stop. NO MORE BUTS. PERIOD. I am white and I am able to say that because I am sensitive and I am objective and I have relatives in all races. That gives a different perspective about live and humanity.


Part of my response disappeared when I hit submit so I must have inadvertently erased it.

First, I did say that one is too many. I also referred to your link and my reference was to Michael Brown, who was included in your link among the 15. So, because I question that I am insensitive? Nonsense.

And now you are off on white men being terrorist and it being buried under the rug. Which if we follow that logic we have get into the number of blacks killing whites and other blacks and who white people are killing etc.

FWIW, it will NEVER stop so long as you have human beings policing other human beings. And we should NEVER stop considering all aspects rather than focusing on only one. That is what a just society does. In a perfect society all are treated equally. We can strive for greater justice we will never attain perfection.


I don't agree with the nitty gritty of what you said but thats fine. I agree with the gist and the spirit of what you said. Humans fail and cops will fail BUT we need to remove elements of systemic failing which is the goal towards perfection. But in most of these cases there may not be any intentional racism based killing.
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Hillary is an idiot and divisive. Female police officer in Tulsa said the suspect was unresponsive to commands. PCP was found in the car of the suspect. If the autopsy reveals there was PCP in his system, officer Shelby is justified. People on PCP are dangerous and immune to non-lethal techniques as they're too much under the influence. Officer Shelby just wants to go home at the end of the, that's what most of us want. As a former LEO I support her.


That's what they said. You clearly have never seen someone on PCP. He would not have been acting like the man in the video. His hands were up. What more could she have been telling him. What didn't he follow? His car broke down. Damn, a black man's car can't break down?

Of course you support her. Her husband told her he looked shady from the helicopter. How can you tell from a helicopter?

She said she made a mistake and shot him instead of tasing him.


It's obvious you don't have LEO experience and you're nothing but a spoiled SAHM playing armchair cop.

When on PCP and acting like he did, non-lethal force doesn't work. Most cops have enough experience to see when someone is acting under the influence. I could usually tell right away, and tests proved me right.

Have you ever ridden in a helicopter? Obviously not. You get a very good vantage point of the situation and can see quite well what's going on.
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