Hillary to "Speak Directly to White People"!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?

It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?

Tell that to Hillary. She thinks white people need a slap-down.

There's really nothing left but to insult your intelligence, for you aren't bright. From her Facebook page: "Another unarmed black man was shot in a police incident. How many times do we have to see this in our country? This is just unbearable, and it needs to be intolerable. And so maybe I can, by speaking directly to white people, say, look, this is not who we are. We’ve got to do everything possible to improve policing, to go right at implicit bias. There are good, honorable, cool-headed police officers. We have seen them in action in New York over the last 48 hours because of the terrorist attacks. We can do better. We have got to rein in what is absolutely inexplicable. And we have got to have law enforcement respect communities and communities respect law enforcement because they have to work together."

Where does she "condemn" white people? Where does she "condemn" police officers? If there are so many unarmed white people gunned down, surely you can provide their names. Did you ever read Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars That Tell Them? Of course not. But there's a chapter in that book in which he talks about loving America (here you could substitute white people and police officers) like a grown up - it doesn't mean it has to be revered as perfect, it means you can love the good parts and work to fix the bad parts. You're kidding yourself if you don't think we white people have some stuff to fix.

Listen to yourself.
Let me just change your sentence ever so slightly.
“You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think black people have some stuff to fix.”

Anyone who says something like this would be labeled a racist. To group all people, of ANY color, into one group as you have done and as Hillary has done is just plain wrong.

[Anonymous]

Here are some stats on police shootings for you to peruse.
Twice as many white people were shot and killed by police in 2015.
The majority of all these were justified shootings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

[Anonymous]

This whole thread is a little confusing.

The riots in Charlotte were in response to a shooting there. A Black cop killed a Black man. Cops say he had a gun--others say he did not. There is no tape that I know about of this shooting.

The other shooting--which, at this point, is much more disturbing to me--is the shooting in Tulsa. That is the shooting where there is tape. In my opinion, it looks very, very bad.

My problem with this whole issue is that some of the deaths that have resulted in awful riots have been proven to be a result of really bad behavior on the part of the victim: Michael Brown, for example. All the riots and destruction over his death make the whole issue look bogus. That takes credence away from those deaths that are seriously questionable.

The death of Freddie Gray and the riots in Baltimore are another example.

When people riot over deaths that are not a result of police abuse, it raises questions over disturbances that are a result of abuse.

As far as the "conversation", I know that in my white family, we had that conversation with our son. NO ONE likes to be stopped by a police officer.

I do not believe that police are out "hunting". I do believe that very poor judgment has been used on many occasions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?

It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?

Tell that to Hillary. She thinks white people need a slap-down.

White people like you and me need to be sensitive about what black population suffers through. We can't paint them with one broad brush. Will you be talking like this if this happens daily to white men? That is the insensitivity ? Show the same understanding to every human regardless of race.

np
You don't think it happens to white men and women? And DAILY? You believe there are 365 killings of unarmed black men a year by police? Show some understanding of the facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here are some stats on police shootings for you to peruse.
Twice as many white people were shot and killed by police in 2015.
The majority of all these were justified shootings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

Do not throw something and divert. We are talking a about HOW MANY innocent WHITE people were killed by cops unjustly? Not accidentally, big difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not a black person, neither am I white. While I knew there is prejudice against black people, I never felt it in my gut until I saw this: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/opinion/a-conversation-with-my-black-son.html?_r=0

Think about this. As a parent, we have so much to worry for our kids. On top of everything else, black families have to bear this. The other thought ran through my mind is, what if you are just brown? The same prejudice possibly holds true for the brown people.

This is disgusting that in stead of standing by the black community in these kind of inhuman acts of police, someone will criticize Hillary for speaking out. That is "double standard".

The double standard is how reluctant she was to speak out against an Islamic terrorist, yet immediately condemns the cop and extends it to "how we are as white people." For the umpteenth time, I didn't hear her take to the airwaves and admonish Muslims that "this isn't who Muslims are."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?

It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?

Tell that to Hillary. She thinks white people need a slap-down.

White people like you and me need to be sensitive about what black population suffers through. We can't paint them with one broad brush. Will you be talking like this if this happens daily to white men? That is the insensitivity ? Show the same understanding to every human regardless of race.

np
You don't think it happens to white men and women? And DAILY? You believe there are 365 killings of unarmed black men a year by police? Show some understanding of the facts.

it is simple. Tell me how many innocent white people are killed by cops unjustly? I didn't say every day a black man is killed by cops unjustly. But even one innocent black person killed by cops unjustly is one too many. ANY INNOCENT people killed by cops is one too many. So your turn without any more diversion and denials.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a black person, neither am I white. While I knew there is prejudice against black people, I never felt it in my gut until I saw this: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/opinion/a-conversation-with-my-black-son.html?_r=0

Think about this. As a parent, we have so much to worry for our kids. On top of everything else, black families have to bear this. The other thought ran through my mind is, what if you are just brown? The same prejudice possibly holds true for the brown people.

This is disgusting that in stead of standing by the black community in these kind of inhuman acts of police, someone will criticize Hillary for speaking out. That is "double standard".

The double standard is how reluctant she was to speak out against an Islamic terrorist, yet immediately condemns the cop and extends it to "how we are as white people." For the umpteenth time, I didn't hear her take to the airwaves and admonish Muslims that "this isn't who Muslims are."

You are intentionally deaf and blind. There is no cure for that. Always denying and diverting. Look inside and introspect for a change. Go read up with the mind of an unbiased human with sensitivity to ALL HUMAN LIFE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?

It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?

Tell that to Hillary. She thinks white people need a slap-down.

White people like you and me need to be sensitive about what black population suffers through. We can't paint them with one broad brush. Will you be talking like this if this happens daily to white men? That is the insensitivity ? Show the same understanding to every human regardless of race.

np
You don't think it happens to white men and women? And DAILY? You believe there are 365 killings of unarmed black men a year by police? Show some understanding of the facts.

it is simple. Tell me how many innocent white people are killed by cops unjustly? I didn't say every day a black man is killed by cops unjustly. But even one innocent black person killed by cops unjustly is one too many. ANY INNOCENT people killed by cops is one too many. So your turn without any more diversion and denials.

I agree that any innocent life taken is one too many and race isn't an issue unless it can be shown race was a reason. And you said ''happens daily to white men'', so what does that mean if not daily to black men. So, tell me how many innocent black people are killed by cops unjustly. After all, it is YOUR contention, not mine.

[Anonymous]

Her comment about talking to white people is racist. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not a black person, neither am I white. While I knew there is prejudice against black people, I never felt it in my gut until I saw this: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/opinion/a-conversation-with-my-black-son.html?_r=0

Think about this. As a parent, we have so much to worry for our kids. On top of everything else, black families have to bear this. The other thought ran through my mind is, what if you are just brown? The same prejudice possibly holds true for the brown people.

This is disgusting that in stead of standing by the black community in these kind of inhuman acts of police, someone will criticize Hillary for speaking out. That is "double standard".

The double standard is how reluctant she was to speak out against an Islamic terrorist, yet immediately condemns the cop and extends it to "how we are as white people." For the umpteenth time, I didn't hear her take to the airwaves and admonish Muslims that "this isn't who Muslims are."

You are intentionally deaf and blind. There is no cure for that. Always denying and diverting. Look inside and introspect for a change. Go read up with the mind of an unbiased human with sensitivity to ALL HUMAN LIFE.

And you are an idiot. I'm not diverting - YOU are. I posted because if the double standard surrounding an Islamic terrorist (and not castigating all Muslims) and a "bad" cop (and condemning the police in general and scolding white people.) Everyone here is diverting to another thread about blacks being killed by police and ignoring the double standard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her comment about talking to white people is racist. Period.

yes. can you imagine if she said "I'll talk to black people" - lumping them all together?

[Anonymous]

Hillary Clinton is white and a woman. What is wrong with her voicing her opinions based on her personal perspectives as a white person or as a woman? Are we really so naive to think politicians aren't individuals with distinct views capable of offering insight on issues through the lens of their individual experience and narrative?
If a gay man is elected to an office is he expected to keep his mouth shut on matters that he may have some perspective on? I can understand the objection to him initiating policy based solely on his sexuality but is he not allowed to speak to a community he is familiar with? Is he not allowed to call attention to events and issues within that community?
I hear posters on hear yapping all the time criticizing President Obama because he's black but doesn't address problems within the black community so why is Hillary being criticized for the opposite - being white and having the audacity to speak out about problems within the white community?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton is white and a woman. What is wrong with her voicing her opinions based on her personal perspectives as a white person or as a woman? Are we really so naive to think politicians aren't individuals with distinct views capable of offering insight on issues through the lens of their individual experience and narrative?
If a gay man is elected to an office is he expected to keep his mouth shut on matters that he may have some perspective on? I can understand the objection to him initiating policy based solely on his sexuality but is he not allowed to speak to a community he is familiar with? Is he not allowed to call attention to events and issues within that community?
I hear posters on hear yapping all the time criticizing President Obama because he's black but doesn't address problems within the black community so why is Hillary being criticized for the opposite - being white and having the audacity to speak out about problems within the white community?

Maybe that's part of the problem right there. That a black president does NOT criticize the self-inflicted failings of the black community but it's fine for a white person to criticize white people. It's like whites are the only "safe" group one is allowed to criticize, because anything else is considered racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race.
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified.
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?

It is not about the race of the cops. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?

as was pointed out in the PP you're responding to (which apparently you didn't read:

77% are NOT BLACK.

but, only Black Lives Matter. Right?