How many undocumented students are enrolled in MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:Another elementary ESOL teacher here. There are enough native born Americans who speak another language other than English for me and all of my colleagues to keep our jobs. I have appr. 55 students on my caseload and I'd guess 45 of them are native born Americans.


What does that mean? Kids who are born here in the US but do not speak English? How does that happen? Simply because they did not attend preschool?

It mean their parents don't speak English and couldn't teach their kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Our job is to make sure all students are college and career ready.


That's a waste of money. Your job should be to make everyone career ready. Statistically, many kids, no matter their background, will not need college to work. Far better off preparing kids for the trades.
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I do not understand why they can't just mainstream them like they did years ago-the kids all learned English-and no $$ was wasted on giving them specialized services.
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Anonymous wrote:Personally if a young person makes it all the way from Central American to MoCo and plans to stay (whether legally or not) I am ok with him getting a bit of education. Might help him contribute while he is here or in his home country when/if sent back.


They probably aren't getting much of an education but I'm sure they're trying to get a high school diploma anyway possible for their future work life.

It is very strange, and dangerous, to have a huge immigration if teenaged /young adult males immigrating here - unaccompanied and from fairly violent countries no less.

What are the girls doing instead? Too scared to scale the wall or are we purposely encouraging young men to immigrate to do our hard physical labor jobs? It wouldn't surprise me to learn that they are working cheaply for the nonstop construction projects going on in montgomery county.

There are workers who come here on actual work visas to do seasonal construction work - they work about 8 months here and then they go back home, then they return the next year, etc. what's wrong with that model ?
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Anonymous wrote:Another elementary ESOL teacher here. There are enough native born Americans who speak another language other than English for me and all of my colleagues to keep our jobs. I have appr. 55 students on my caseload and I'd guess 45 of them are native born Americans.


What does that mean? Kids who are born here in the US but do not speak English? How does that happen? Simply because they did not attend preschool?



Their parents speak another language other than English. Why is that so difficult to imagine? My mother grew up here in the U.S. and didn't learn English until she started ES.


It's difficult to imagine because even if kids don't speak English when they get to preK, after 3 or 4 years of ESOL, they should be able to speak English. From the PPs, it appears that this is not simply about teaching kids language. It's about kids who are actually not learning what they need to be and are not at grade level (for whatever reason). Maybe ESOL teachers should not be the ones expected to get these kids up to speed. They obviously require much more than just learning the language.
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Anonymous wrote:Personally if a young person makes it all the way from Central American to MoCo and plans to stay (whether legally or not) I am ok with him getting a bit of education. Might help him contribute while he is here or in his home country when/if sent back.


Wow, that's awfully generous of you. How about you get to choose that as your charity and I get to choose something else? That is not how I feel and I would prefer not to have my tax money going to these criminals who have broken the law.

Let's stop using taxpayer money and people like you can choose to support them as you wish. I could get behind that legislation.


In montgomery county they keep raising the taxes so high we can barely afford to live here anymore. We are seriously seriously in debt and working endlessly to keep up.
But when I look around I see old facilities near me in the 'Rich area', no new parks, no rec center to gather in with the neighbors. They haven't paved our roads in 10 years - but construction vehicles rumble down our roads to tear down and build new McMansions nonstop. I just see higher and higher bills and taxes.

When I look in Silver Spring I see sparkling new rec centers that look like palaces, new parks, tons of rec centers where free things are given out.
Okay - I'm all for people living a good life but you can't have us paying for it and never getting anything in return.

Everything nice is in silver spring

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/rec/where/centers/

This place is incredible (but they already had numerous rec centers?)
http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/rec/where/centers/whiteoak.html

Then you have these regional services centers

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/silverspring/contactus.html

And this whole center for English as a second language people to become familiar with their government

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/eastcounty/services.html

It's just too extreme to take all of the money from us 'rich people ' (some of us who are in actuality just struggling to survive here) and give us nothing in return. Is it too much to ask for us in Bethesda/Kensington to also have a community center to take some classes rather than having to drive all over the county? Do we not need any job services or to socialize with neighbors or a place for our seniors? Apparently not - and yet our property taxes are now $1000/month!

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The mission of the Gilchrist Center for Cultural Diversity is to be Montgomery County Government's welcome center where the County's diverse population can be connected to public and private services, volunteering, civic engagement, cross cultural activities, and economic empowerment.
Goals

Provide the most needed services to immigrants in the County through partnerships with other organizations or by utilizing skilled volunteers (information and referral to services, English as a second language, workforce development, civic engagement, computer literacy, citizenship, and pro-bono legal assistance).
Provide Civic engagement academies to help residents get oriented to life in the County, understand their rights and responsibilities, and engage immigrant leadership.
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Be a resource for agencies in terms of finding partners to offer programs, referring volunteers, etc.
Increase coordination and build the network of immigrant service providers.
Promote Diversity/Cross Cultural Understanding and Awareness via activities where people see each other as individuals and not as members of broad social categories. These activities include working together on community issues/problems, language classes, volunteering, and multicultural events.





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I'm not trying to be hateful at all but we must be the most welcoming of all cities in the whole world. Everything is here.
I'm just saying that we can't afford this if we also aren't meeting the needs of the residents who are paying for this stuff.

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Provide Civic engagement academies to help residents get oriented to life in the County, understand their rights and responsibilities, and engage immigrant leadership.
Assist Regional Service Centers to staff (via AmeriCorps) and create programs for Gilchrist Welcome Centers (set up classes, find partners and volunteers, materials, etc).
Be a resource for agencies in terms of finding partners to offer programs, referring volunteers, etc.
Increase coordination and build the network of immigrant service providers.
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Montgomery College partners with the East County Regional Center by offering classes, information, and workshops to county residents. Montgomery College staff at the Center provide information on classes taught at the College, financial aid, admissions and academic counseling as coordinate classes on site. The objective is provide easier access to Montgomery College information and services. The College also partners with the Regional Center and events, college fairs, etc. in ways that are mutually beneficial to the College, the Regional Center, and other nonprofit partners. To contact the College staff at East County.

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Previously, Mobile Med took a van to that site but the county has made a nice clinic space with 5 exam rooms available for our use. This is a high needs area with French-speaking African patients and a variety of other population groups. Their multilingual staff and volunteers are well prepared to work with the uninsured individuals who come there for primary health care.

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Anonymous wrote:Another elementary ESOL teacher here. There are enough native born Americans who speak another language other than English for me and all of my colleagues to keep our jobs. I have appr. 55 students on my caseload and I'd guess 45 of them are native born Americans.


How do you know they are native born? I'm actually not too surprised as most of the recent undocumented children from Central America are older teens so they wouldn't be placed in elementary school to begin with.



Their birth certificates are in their cumulative folders in the office.


Then what are they doing in ESOL? Are your students only early ES? By 3rd grade, if they're native born and been in public school, they should no longer require ESOL.


It would be nice if it worked like that, but it doesn't. I gave an in depth explanation on another thread, but there's a difference between social language (BICS) and academic language (CALP). Often times students (ESOL or not) come to school with very little academic language and they really struggle to keep up with the curriculum. The gap widens once more and more content is introduced and students don't have background knowledge from which to draw.

Some students come to Pre-K or K without any academic language (positional words, colors, shapes etc) and catch on quickly if they already know those concepts in their first language, but others can struggle to learn the concept and language simultaneously and the curriculum moves on without them gaining a deep understanding. Since a lot of concepts build on each other, they fall farther and farther behind.

By the end of 3rd grade, a student may be able to communicate perfectly, but they still may not have the academic language or complex language structures needed to pass the ACCESS test which is the only way for students to exit ESOL, barring a parent refusal.


Shouldn't that be what they are learning in preK? Even with free preK in MoCo, are there still kids who don't attend preK? Any ideas on why that happens? Do parents just choose not to send their kids to the free preK programs?


It is taught in Pre-K, but that doesn't necessarily mean they learn it and retain it. There are still kids who don't attend Pre-K, yes. First, parents have to know it exists and then actually fill out the paperwork. Then there have to be enough spots since there aren't Pre-K programs in every elementary school. Also, since it's half day with no before or after care (at least at my school), there has to be someone to get them there/on the bus and then bring them home/meet them at the bus stop.

Honestly, a lot of the kids in the Pre-K program at my school need that year to learn how to behave in school. They need to learn the routines of school, the behavioral expectations and how to be a member of a class. Morning Pre-K gets breakfast and lunch, they have all 4 specials and they play outside every day. Afternoon Pre-K has just lunch, but that doesn't leave a ton of time for academics, plus the teacher has to do individual testing multiple times per year. There also isn't any penalty for excessive tardiness or absences. Kids can miss literally half the year of Pre-K without any repercussions. Sometimes parents/caregivers just don't feel like getting them there or they figure if they're running late it's not worth it to go at all that day. Some kids don't come when it's too hot or too cold or if it's raining. Seriously.

I don't see all that much difference between kids who have had MCPS Pre-K and those who haven't by the time they get to K, unfortunately. Some kids really thrive with the Pre-K experience, but those are most likely the kids who have more exposure to richer language in their home environment anyway.



The whole system needs to be overhauled. I've heard a lot about the preschool program for this population of students from teachers who are involved and it sounds like the teachers virtually act like the kids' parents, making home visits, etc. They also go through a lot of "training" in order to "learn" how to "best serve" this population.

Also, to the ESL teacher, why the need from BICS to CALP? If you study the ratios of how many jobs require only high school v. undergrad v. masters and beyond, it has stayed the same for decades and there are far more jobs requiring only a high school diploma than for college.


You need CALP to earn a high school diploma. The language of any science, social studies or math class involves CALP.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally if a young person makes it all the way from Central American to MoCo and plans to stay (whether legally or not) I am ok with him getting a bit of education. Might help him contribute while he is here or in his home country when/if sent back.


Wow, that's awfully generous of you. How about you get to choose that as your charity and I get to choose something else? That is not how I feel and I would prefer not to have my tax money going to these criminals who have broken the law.

Let's stop using taxpayer money and people like you can choose to support them as you wish. I could get behind that legislation.


In montgomery county they keep raising the taxes so high we can barely afford to live here anymore. We are seriously seriously in debt and working endlessly to keep up. A
But when I look around I see old facilities near me in the 'Rich area', no new parks, no rec center to gather in with the neighbors. They haven't paved our roads in 10 years - but construction vehicles rumble down our roads to tear down and build new McMansions nonstop. I just see higher and higher bills and taxes.

When I look in Silver Spring I see sparkling new rec centers that look like palaces, new parks, tons of rec centers where free things are given out.
Okay - I'm all for people living a good life but you can't have us paying for it and never getting anything in return.

Everything nice is in silver spring

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/rec/where/centers/

This place is incredible (but they already had numerous rec centers?)
http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/rec/where/centers/whiteoak.html

Then you have these regional services centers

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/silverspring/contactus.html

And this whole center for English as a second language people to become familiar with their government

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/eastcounty/services.html

It's just too extreme to take all of the money from us 'rich people ' (some of us who are in actuality just struggling to survive here) and give us nothing in return. Is it too much to ask for us in Bethesda/Kensington to also have a community center to take some classes rather than having to drive all over the county? Do we not need any job services or to socialize with neighbors or a place for our seniors? Apparently not - and yet our property taxes are now $1000/month!

Gilchrist Center:
The mission of the Gilchrist Center for Cultural Diversity is to be Montgomery County Government's welcome center where the County's diverse population can be connected to public and private services, volunteering, civic engagement, cross cultural activities, and economic empowerment.
Goals

Provide the most needed services to immigrants in the County through partnerships with other organizations or by utilizing skilled volunteers (information and referral to services, English as a second language, workforce development, civic engagement, computer literacy, citizenship, and pro-bono legal assistance).
Provide Civic engagement academies to help residents get oriented to life in the County, understand their rights and responsibilities, and engage immigrant leadership.
Assist Regional Service Centers to staff (via AmeriCorps) and create programs for Gilchrist Welcome Centers (set up classes, find partners and volunteers, materials, etc).
Be a resource for agencies in terms of finding partners to offer programs, referring volunteers, etc.
Increase coordination and build the network of immigrant service providers.
Promote Diversity/Cross Cultural Understanding and Awareness via activities where people see each other as individuals and not as members of broad social categories. These activities include working together on community issues/problems, language classes, volunteering, and multicultural events.







PP, there are many people who feel the same as you. We can't even support the schools and students we have. Yet we take in more and more and more, many who are here ILLEGALLY. It gets to be too much. But it is totally un-PC to say so and anyone who comments immediately gets labeled a racist.

There are budget cuts and increased classroom sizes in schools, but the last election had a Democratic candidate who wanted to pay for Universal preK. Yeah, okay. Where is that money going to come from?? I'm a Democrat, but that was one of the reasons I voted for Hogan. And after this Rockville HS rape case, I am even more glad that I did since it's obvious that the crazy MoCo BOR and Superintendent are SO far to the left that they simply are out of touch.

Hopefully there will be a change in tide in this county.
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Wow, break out the pitch forks and white robes! You people are seriously making me laugh right now...

It's like you think these people were born with brains smaller than yours. Come on. It's human nature to want to provide food, shelter and live a happy life. Central Americans have suffered DECADES of injustice and wake up call here.... guess who is at fault? WE ARE.

Educate yourself and your children. We absolutely have a problem, but you throw them to the wolves and you'll have an even bigger problem. Deal with those that are here, help educate them and at the same time, work with leaders to help ensure policies that don't continue to oppress these people.
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Anonymous wrote:Another elementary ESOL teacher here. There are enough native born Americans who speak another language other than English for me and all of my colleagues to keep our jobs. I have appr. 55 students on my caseload and I'd guess 45 of them are native born Americans.


What does that mean? Kids who are born here in the US but do not speak English? How does that happen? Simply because they did not attend preschool?

It means their parents didn't teach them English, and what little English they know, they learned from TV.
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I'm the PP you're responding to, and my comments have nothing to do with my income, my salary, my benefits or my job. Actually, ESOL allocations in schools, especially elementary schools, have decreased over the past few years since central office switched to a proficiency based staffing formula. I used to have 40 students on my caseload and now I have 60. If the formula hadn't been changed and then tweaked again, we currently would have almost 6 ESOL teachers at my school and we now have 3.5 for over 200 ESOL students. If students don't make progress then schools are actually "rewarded" with more allocation since their students' ESOL levels are lower. My students make progress so our allocations get decreased.

There are more changes coming down the pike for the ESOL program and ESOL positions as we currently know them will be drastically slashed. I know hearing that makes a lot of people happy. I don't know what that means for my job, but it doesn't mean I treat kids any differently or change the way I teach.

I pointed out twice in my previous post that my comments were reflective of my personal experiences. Your neighbor may have had different experiences. Like I said before, we can't paint everyone from Central America with the same brush as people are quick to do after the incident at RHS.



I'm a parent in the RHS cluster and your post is insulting. We were not painting 'everyone from Central America with the same brush'. Parents are/were concerned about the fact that the two men were here ILLEGALLY. IMO, it doesn't matter where they are from. But it does matter that they were here ILLEGALLY. Therefore, they had no info on these men, and can't even verify their ages.

And who knows if they had established criminal activities before they came here?


Doesn't matter. We have to educate everyone, regardless of age.


I'm sure these men, who didn't speak English, were receiving a fine education.
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And guess why it will never change because our government makes too much money off of immigration. That's right, WE MAKE money. You live in an area with a high immigrant population so of course there are more social services... Duh.

But that's not what politicians are looking at, they are looking at the overall financial impact of immigrants and I guarantee you the country is not loosing on that.

Your school might have a lot more shades of students, a lack of funding for education is the problem, not these small-brained heathens that are {gasp} trying to get an education.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow, break out the pitch forks and white robes! You people are seriously making me laugh right now...

It's like you think these people were born with brains smaller than yours. Come on. It's human nature to want to provide food, shelter and live a happy life. Central Americans have suffered DECADES of injustice and wake up call here.... guess who is at fault? WE ARE.

Educate yourself and your children. We absolutely have a problem, but you throw them to the wolves and you'll have an even bigger problem. Deal with those that are here, help educate them and at the same time, work with leaders to help ensure policies that don't continue to oppress these people.


Now see, that's just obnoxious. There are valid concerns being brought up, just as parents have valid concerns after the Rockville HS rape. And you telling us all that we are racists and need 'white robes' certainly doesn't help your ultra-liberal causes.

I'm a LEGAL immigrant from a country that has also been done wrong by the US. Guess what?? The US is at fault in many areas of the world. So, your solution is to accept everyone into your home? Why do only Central Americans get your sympathy?? African Americans in the US have also suffered DECADEs of injustices. Wait, no. More like generations of injustices. How about the other war torn countries?? Where do you draw the line?

It's an issue of resources. Resources are limited so we need to choose what we use them for. You may choose ILLEGAL Central americam immigrants. I vote for other causes.
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How did you get approved to come here? Likely a family member petition to get you here? A job? I would really love to know please enlighten me
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