How many undocumented students are enrolled in MCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the stats for the unaccompanied children that have been released to MOCO by the Office of Refugee Resettlement. These numbers are those that came through ORR only.

556 unaccompanied children have been released between October 1, 2016 through January 31, 2017.
1,079 were released to MOCO the rest of 2016
534 in 2015
1,117 in 2014

age breakdown:
up to 12 yrs: 18%
13-14 yrs: 17%
15-16 yrs: 37%
17 yrs: 31%

gender breakdown:
67% males
33% females

country breakdown:
Guatemala- 40%
El Salvador- 34%
Honduras- 21%
Mexico- 3%
Other- 2%

Interesting. 17 years old is the smallext year span demographic but comprises close to the largest population. Could adults know or be told to declare themselves 17??

I bet that's very likely!

31% are 17 years old? Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the stats for the unaccompanied children that have been released to MOCO by the Office of Refugee Resettlement. These numbers are those that came through ORR only.

556 unaccompanied children have been released between October 1, 2016 through January 31, 2017.
1,079 were released to MOCO the rest of 2016
534 in 2015
1,117 in 2014

age breakdown:
up to 12 yrs: 18%
13-14 yrs: 17%
15-16 yrs: 37%
17 yrs: 31%

gender breakdown:
67% males
33% females

country breakdown:
Guatemala- 40%
El Salvador- 34%
Honduras- 21%
Mexico- 3%
Other- 2%

Interesting. 17 years old is the smallext year span demographic but comprises close to the largest population. Could adults know or be told to declare themselves 17??

I bet that's very likely!

31% are 17 years old? Interesting.

Exactly. I also wonder when this is going to stop? Is there a limit on the number that we can take in? We pay ridiculous amount in taxes but yet have to deal with overcrowded schools and limited resources to deal with over-enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When students enroll, they only need to produce a birth certificate so I am not sure how they would know exact numbers.

I am a former MCPS high school registrar.

All students who are unable to have transcripts sent from a US school are required to enroll through the MCPS International Office.
Many -- probably most -- students who enroll through the MCPS International Office do not bring birth their birth certificates with them. It's very unusual for a student from El Salvador or Guatemala to bring a birth certificate. However, it is very common for an ICE arrest warrant to be included in their enrollment packet. The MCPS International Office accepts the arrest warrants as identification.

How does the school get proof of age then?

Great question. I was at the meeting at RHS. The handed out packets that including what documents students needed to register. It was a long list of legitimate doc, but there was one huge loophole- a signed written statement declaring the d.o.b. My jaw dropped. They are letting students in without any proof of their age. This is insanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When students enroll, they only need to produce a birth certificate so I am not sure how they would know exact numbers.

I am a former MCPS high school registrar.

All students who are unable to have transcripts sent from a US school are required to enroll through the MCPS International Office.
Many -- probably most -- students who enroll through the MCPS International Office do not bring birth their birth certificates with them. It's very unusual for a student from El Salvador or Guatemala to bring a birth certificate. However, it is very common for an ICE arrest warrant to be included in their enrollment packet. The MCPS International Office accepts the arrest warrants as identification.

How does the school get proof of age then?

Great question. I was at the meeting at RHS. The handed out packets that including what documents students needed to register. It was a long list of legitimate doc, but there was one huge loophole- a signed written statement declaring the d.o.b. My jaw dropped. They are letting students in without any proof of their age. This is insanity.

Is it federal law to allow a written statement of one's date of birth as proof of age? Are we really that naïve to think that all undocumented individuals are going to be truthful about their age? How can we be so irresponsible to allow this to happen??

[Anonymous]

If they can tell age through dental records, they should do this for every illegal student, they should also get fingerprints and run it through a criminal database, and use it to track these folks. I know for a fact these people give fake names and ages, move from state to state with aliases etc.....This poses a huge safety risk to our schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the stats for the unaccompanied children that have been released to MOCO by the Office of Refugee Resettlement. These numbers are those that came through ORR only.

556 unaccompanied children have been released between October 1, 2016 through January 31, 2017.
1,079 were released to MOCO the rest of 2016
534 in 2015
1,117 in 2014

age breakdown:
up to 12 yrs: 18%
13-14 yrs: 17%
15-16 yrs: 37%
17 yrs: 31%

gender breakdown:
67% males
33% females

country breakdown:
Guatemala- 40%
El Salvador- 34%
Honduras- 21%
Mexico- 3%
Other- 2%

Interesting. 17 years old is the smallext year span demographic but comprises close to the largest population. Could adults know or be told to declare themselves 17??

I bet that's very likely!

31% are 17 years old? Interesting.

Of course there are more children in the higher age categories. They are traveling alone from Central America through Mexico. Do you think Salvadoran parents are more likely to send their 13 year olds to make that trip alone or their 17 year olds?! Just consider for a minute how desperate a family must be to do this, when you probably don't even allow your high schooler to walk themselves to school.

[Anonymous]

PP- A lot of these teenagers just leave. Their parents are not "sending" them. Some of them leave because they wanted out of a gang and they become targets so they just leave. Watch the documentary about these kids who ride the trains through Mexico to the border. I cant remember the name right now but you can google it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the stats for the unaccompanied children that have been released to MOCO by the Office of Refugee Resettlement. These numbers are those that came through ORR only.

556 unaccompanied children have been released between October 1, 2016 through January 31, 2017.
1,079 were released to MOCO the rest of 2016
534 in 2015
1,117 in 2014

age breakdown:
up to 12 yrs: 18%
13-14 yrs: 17%
15-16 yrs: 37%
17 yrs: 31%

gender breakdown:
67% males
33% females

country breakdown:
Guatemala- 40%
El Salvador- 34%
Honduras- 21%
Mexico- 3%
Other- 2%

Interesting. 17 years old is the smallext year span demographic but comprises close to the largest population. Could adults know or be told to declare themselves 17??

I bet that's very likely!

31% are 17 years old? Interesting.

Of course there are more children in the higher age categories. They are traveling alone from Central America through Mexico. Do you think Salvadoran parents are more likely to send their 13 year olds to make that trip alone or their 17 year olds?! Just consider for a minute how desperate a family must be to do this, when you probably don't even allow your high schooler to walk themselves to school.

No, parents are not 'sending' their 17 year olds. They know they can come here so they just do.

What is your point PP? That it's dangerous so anyone who makes the trip alive should be allowed to stay no questions asked?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP- A lot of these teenagers just leave. Their parents are not "sending" them. Some of them leave because they wanted out of a gang and they become targets so they just leave. Watch the documentary about these kids who ride the trains through Mexico to the border. I cant remember the name right now but you can google it.

Yes, no actual gang members come here to practice their trade, while scamming entitlements. It's all just clean cut and polite Hispanic kids eager to learn calculus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the stats for the unaccompanied children that have been released to MOCO by the Office of Refugee Resettlement. These numbers are those that came through ORR only.

556 unaccompanied children have been released between October 1, 2016 through January 31, 2017.
1,079 were released to MOCO the rest of 2016
534 in 2015
1,117 in 2014

age breakdown:
up to 12 yrs: 18%
13-14 yrs: 17%
15-16 yrs: 37%
17 yrs: 31%

gender breakdown:
67% males
33% females

country breakdown:
Guatemala- 40%
El Salvador- 34%
Honduras- 21%
Mexico- 3%
Other- 2%

Interesting. 17 years old is the smallext year span demographic but comprises close to the largest population. Could adults know or be told to declare themselves 17??

I bet that's very likely!

31% are 17 years old? Interesting.

Of course there are more children in the higher age categories. They are traveling alone from Central America through Mexico. Do you think Salvadoran parents are more likely to send their 13 year olds to make that trip alone or their 17 year olds?! Just consider for a minute how desperate a family must be to do this, when you probably don't even allow your high schooler to walk themselves to school.

No, parents are not 'sending' their 17 year olds. They know they can come here so they just do.

What is your point PP? That it's dangerous so anyone who makes the trip alive should be allowed to stay no questions asked?

Sigh. My only point was that it makes perfect sense that there are many more 17 year olds than 13 year olds. Posters seemed to think there was some conspiracy for older people to claim they were 17. I still have no idea why people think adults from Central America are trying to cheat their way into high school. It would seem much likelier to me that new illegal immigrants would be trying to get jobs, not lying for the privilege of sitting through 9th grade ESOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are the stats for the unaccompanied children that have been released to MOCO by the Office of Refugee Resettlement. These numbers are those that came through ORR only.

556 unaccompanied children have been released between October 1, 2016 through January 31, 2017.
1,079 were released to MOCO the rest of 2016
534 in 2015
1,117 in 2014

age breakdown:
up to 12 yrs: 18%
13-14 yrs: 17%
15-16 yrs: 37%
17 yrs: 31%

gender breakdown:
67% males
33% females

country breakdown:
Guatemala- 40%
El Salvador- 34%
Honduras- 21%
Mexico- 3%
Other- 2%

Interesting. 17 years old is the smallext year span demographic but comprises close to the largest population. Could adults know or be told to declare themselves 17??

I bet that's very likely!

31% are 17 years old? Interesting.

Of course there are more children in the higher age categories. They are traveling alone from Central America through Mexico. Do you think Salvadoran parents are more likely to send their 13 year olds to make that trip alone or their 17 year olds?! Just consider for a minute how desperate a family must be to do this, when you probably don't even allow your high schooler to walk themselves to school.

No, parents are not 'sending' their 17 year olds. They know they can come here so they just do.

What is your point PP? That it's dangerous so anyone who makes the trip alive should be allowed to stay no questions asked?

Sigh. My only point was that it makes perfect sense that there are many more 17 year olds than 13 year olds. Posters seemed to think there was some conspiracy for older people to claim they were 17. I still have no idea why people think adults from Central America are trying to cheat their way into high school. It would seem much likelier to me that new illegal immigrants would be trying to get jobs, not lying for the privilege of sitting through 9th grade ESOL.

Free English lessons? Free food? Maybe free medical insurance too?

[Anonymous]

Personally if a young person makes it all the way from Central American to MoCo and plans to stay (whether legally or not) I am ok with him getting a bit of education. Might help him contribute while he is here or in his home country when/if sent back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think they could ever know. How could they?

Well in Va they ask for your social security number. So if you don't have one, then I assume that they assume you are illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally if a young person makes it all the way from Central American to MoCo and plans to stay (whether legally or not) I am ok with him getting a bit of education. Might help him contribute while he is here or in his home country when/if sent back.

Sure, if they don't join gangs or mess up with young girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally if a young person makes it all the way from Central American to MoCo and plans to stay (whether legally or not) I am ok with him getting a bit of education. Might help him contribute while he is here or in his home country when/if sent back.

That's very generous of you at $15k a student x 15, 000 or 25,000 (as mentioned above) thats $225-$375 MILLION dollars a year that your Maryland taxes are going for BEFORE all of the free healthcare, food, etc. that these students consume.