Cheating Culture

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Anonymous wrote:At Penn State DS takes his exams in a special room with cameras at every angle to discourage cheating

Plenty of exams are administered in person at public schools, UVA included. Ask me how I know.

How do you know?

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t all of these “ADHD” extra time blah blah diagnoses a form of cheating? Yes. They are.

No. They are not. If a kid has a legitimate diagnosis from a qualified professional, that is not cheating. Sounds like maybe you are trying to justify your kid’s cheating through someone else’s disability.

The diagnosis is frequently BS.

You do not know this. You are parroting lies and hurting kids who are working twice as hard for half the reward and hearing people like you make them feel even worse about themselves for having ADHD. Be better.

Unfortunately, there are quite a few kids that pay for the diagnosis.

There needs to be a better way to make it harder for the fraudsters.

Stop ignoring that it happens actually quite a bit…and get as outraged as the rest of us.

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It was one of the ploys in the Varsity Blues scandal

I do think since the ACT is truly time sensitive that the kids that get extra time should have a * next to their scores that indicates they received extra time. Too many use the paid diagnosis for this.

Yes. I think it's 3 extra hours for the SAT. That's ridiculous and not fair, regardless of if it's a real diagnosis. They don't have to disclose that they had this time advantage when applying.

You don't know what you are talking about. At all. As a parent of two children with diagnosed learning disabilities, I can assure you that the thousands of hours I have spent dealing with medication shortages, getting testing, support, medical appointments, etc have been no walk in the park. I would love for my children to have missed that pain and stigma and hassle on a daily basis. This is not some ploy to deprive your little Larlo of his grade or test score.

Not to mention dealing with jerks like you who judge children, and allow your children to bully them. There is a reason why medical conditions aren't publicly available because of public ignorance. My family has lived through it all.

Just because there are fraudulent people in this world doesn't negate my kids' right to have educational supports. And in a post-COVID educational world, accommodations are the only remaining supports seemingly available. Teachers are too exhausted and overworked to support our kids most of the time. They are on their own, usually getting their own grades compromised because they struggle to accommodate an educational system that is a factory instead of a place for differentiated learning.

It's still not fair. You can't ask that a kid get unlimited support and then hide it from admissions officers and employers in the name of privacy. Education is a zero sum arena because there aren't an infinite number of teachers, classes, and funds. Many kids get close to zero support from teachers because they're deemed smart enough to teach themselves in class while other kids get all the attention. You're just egocentrically selfish and entitled when you care little about what happens to other kids and you expect those parents to obviously sympathize with yours. If you really cared you'd demand for the creation of sped schools that have 100% sped specialists that could pamper and cater to your kids. But that's not your actual goal, is it?

Sounds like you realize are kids are actually smart and maybe you are threatened by them? If your. kid is so great, they should be able to "win" either way.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach college, and we have more cheating than ever going on now. But there are two other things that are different. I see a lot more 'grey area' stuff that's on the edge of cheating but not quite there (students recycling their own work, for example, which technically is disallowed if it's a whole assignment - but what if it's only part of it?). I also see a lot less remorse. They may be angry that they're having to serve the consequences, but they don't necessarily see themselves as having done much of anything wrong.

Whenever the recent Harvard president’s plagiarism issues come up on DCUM, I’m amazed by how many people leap to her defense, saying things like “president is not an academic position” & “she only plagiarized in areas that were not key parts of her research.”

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Anonymous wrote:I teach college, and we have more cheating than ever going on now. But there are two other things that are different. I see a lot more 'grey area' stuff that's on the edge of cheating but not quite there (students recycling their own work, for example, which technically is disallowed if it's a whole assignment - but what if it's only part of it?). I also see a lot less remorse. They may be angry that they're having to serve the consequences, but they don't necessarily see themselves as having done much of anything wrong.

Whenever the recent Harvard president’s plagiarism issues come up on DCUM, I’m amazed by how many people leap to her defense, saying things like “president is not an academic position” & “she only plagiarized in areas that were not key parts of her research.”

THIS!

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Anonymous wrote:I teach college, and we have more cheating than ever going on now. But there are two other things that are different. I see a lot more 'grey area' stuff that's on the edge of cheating but not quite there (students recycling their own work, for example, which technically is disallowed if it's a whole assignment - but what if it's only part of it?). I also see a lot less remorse. They may be angry that they're having to serve the consequences, but they don't necessarily see themselves as having done much of anything wrong.

Whenever the recent Harvard president’s plagiarism issues come up on DCUM, I’m amazed by how many people leap to her defense, saying things like “president is not an academic position” & “she only plagiarized in areas that were not key parts of her research.”

Yes, but have you actually read the dissertations of some people that probably didn't plagiarize? Many are absolute garbage and they supposedly had to defend their dissertations before graduating. Not defending plagiarizers but don't assume having a Ph.D. degree is affirming in any way.

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Anonymous wrote:If she signed thr UVA Honor Code, at matriculation, which everyone does, she is obligated to report. Honor violations are a very big thing at UVA.



https://honor.virginia.edu/course/honor-code#:~:text=The%20Honor%20Code%20of%20the,lie%2C%20cheat%2C%20or%20steal

They used to be. I think they’re moving away from enforcement of that.

Why do you comment when you don't even know the system. "They" is not the university, it's a student-run operation and taken very seriously. My DD served as a judge in student trials. https://provost.virginia.edu/faculty-handbook/honor-system-and-faculty

So what are the ramifications for cheating? Are. kids. getting expelled or failing classes?

can't you read? there are student-run trials. Yes kids get expelled. https://provost.virginia.edu/faculty-handbook/honor-system-and-faculty

+1.The UVA Honor System and pledge is so famous that it has its own wiki page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_system_at_the_University_of_Virginia

Kids there do not seem to realize that cheaters gets expelled. For one class, there is a text string with kids cheating and exchanging exam answers (no, my kid is not on it but it was offered to them). No one seems to care. The honor court should be more out front about the true ramifications of cheating. Maybe scare the kids a little.

My UVA student says you don't know what you are talking about

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Anonymous wrote:If she signed thr UVA Honor Code, at matriculation, which everyone does, she is obligated to report. Honor violations are a very big thing at UVA.



https://honor.virginia.edu/course/honor-code#:~:text=The%20Honor%20Code%20of%20the,lie%2C%20cheat%2C%20or%20steal

She has no actual evidence. People just mention that “everyone” uses Chat GPT for the online test they just had, etc. People have told her the prof in that class knows but does not know how to fix it. I feel like they have this honor code but it is a bit of a smokescreen. It’s my understand kids who cheat get a 0 on the exam and have to write an apology letter. It does not sound like kids are getting expelled. They just get perfect GPAs and get into McIntire and Batton.

What kind of test is this...and isn't an easy way to fix it to make everyone take the test in-person and not online?

Financial Accounting. Over 700 kids and it is an online class with online tests.

Someone's fudging the truth. UVA incoming classes are only 4,400 students. I can assure that 1/6 of your DD's class is not taking Financial Accounting. UVA takes great pride in that it is much smaller than many other public universities at a total of 17,000. Faculty to student ratio is 1:15. 53% of the classes have fewer than 20 students in them. My kids' majors were all very small seminars from sophomore year on .

I'm not fudging. There are 700 kids on the class. Ask the other. parent who posted about the class. The Econ classes are also 400-500 kids.

Highly unlikely. My kid took macro (Ken Elzingaand micro. 130 students each time. UVA publishes lists of classrooms by sizeMost are under 30. The largest is chem at 480 capacity and nursing at 430. There are no econ classrooms that large . Seehttps://classrooms.its.virginia.edu/list

I don't know why you keep calling me a liar. My kid is actually at. UVA and is in an Econ class that is over 400 kids. It's the largest class ever. They even took a picture. Financial Accounting is 700 + online. I think it is because this year is the switch from applying second year to Macintire to applying first year so there are twice as many kids in the prerequisites.

Oh, honey, 1/7 of your DD's incoming class at UVA is not taking an online financial accounting class. It's not even a popular course! Maybe think next time before posting some idle stuff coming out if your teen's mouth.

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Anonymous wrote:If she signed thr UVA Honor Code, at matriculation, which everyone does, she is obligated to report. Honor violations are a very big thing at UVA.



https://honor.virginia.edu/course/honor-code#:~:text=The%20Honor%20Code%20of%20the,lie%2C%20cheat%2C%20or%20steal

She has no actual evidence. People just mention that “everyone” uses Chat GPT for the online test they just had, etc. People have told her the prof in that class knows but does not know how to fix it. I feel like they have this honor code but it is a bit of a smokescreen. It’s my understand kids who cheat get a 0 on the exam and have to write an apology letter. It does not sound like kids are getting expelled. They just get perfect GPAs and get into McIntire and Batton.

What kind of test is this...and isn't an easy way to fix it to make everyone take the test in-person and not online?

Financial Accounting. Over 700 kids and it is an online class with online tests.

Someone's fudging the truth. UVA incoming classes are only 4,400 students. I can assure that 1/6 of your DD's class is not taking Financial Accounting. UVA takes great pride in that it is much smaller than many other public universities at a total of 17,000. Faculty to student ratio is 1:15. 53% of the classes have fewer than 20 students in them. My kids' majors were all very small seminars from sophomore year on .

I'm not fudging. There are 700 kids on the class. Ask the other. parent who posted about the class. The Econ classes are also 400-500 kids.

Highly unlikely. My kid took macro (Ken Elzingaand micro. 130 students each time. UVA publishes lists of classrooms by sizeMost are under 30. The largest is chem at 480 capacity and nursing at 430. There are no econ classrooms that large . Seehttps://classrooms.its.virginia.edu/list

I don't know why you keep calling me a liar. My kid is actually at. UVA and is in an Econ class that is over 400 kids. It's the largest class ever. They even took a picture. Financial Accounting is 700 + online. I think it is because this year is the switch from applying second year to Macintire to applying first year so there are twice as many kids in the prerequisites.

Oh, honey, 1/7 of your DD's incoming class at UVA is not taking an online financial accounting class. It's not even a popular course! Maybe think next time before posting some idle stuff coming out if your teen's mouth.

I wish the other parent on here with a kid in that class would speak up. It’s 100% true. I’m guessing the class is so large because it has first and second years because they changed the application process this year so 2 classes are applying at the same time. It’s a huge online class. I was stunned when my kid told me how large it was and that online is the only option.

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Anonymous wrote:If she signed thr UVA Honor Code, at matriculation, which everyone does, she is obligated to report. Honor violations are a very big thing at UVA.



https://honor.virginia.edu/course/honor-code#:~:text=The%20Honor%20Code%20of%20the,lie%2C%20cheat%2C%20or%20steal

She has no actual evidence. People just mention that “everyone” uses Chat GPT for the online test they just had, etc. People have told her the prof in that class knows but does not know how to fix it. I feel like they have this honor code but it is a bit of a smokescreen. It’s my understand kids who cheat get a 0 on the exam and have to write an apology letter. It does not sound like kids are getting expelled. They just get perfect GPAs and get into McIntire and Batton.

What kind of test is this...and isn't an easy way to fix it to make everyone take the test in-person and not online?

Financial Accounting. Over 700 kids and it is an online class with online tests.

Someone's fudging the truth. UVA incoming classes are only 4,400 students. I can assure that 1/6 of your DD's class is not taking Financial Accounting. UVA takes great pride in that it is much smaller than many other public universities at a total of 17,000. Faculty to student ratio is 1:15. 53% of the classes have fewer than 20 students in them. My kids' majors were all very small seminars from sophomore year on .

I'm not fudging. There are 700 kids on the class. Ask the other. parent who posted about the class. The Econ classes are also 400-500 kids.

Highly unlikely. My kid took macro (Ken Elzingaand micro. 130 students each time. UVA publishes lists of classrooms by sizeMost are under 30. The largest is chem at 480 capacity and nursing at 430. There are no econ classrooms that large . Seehttps://classrooms.its.virginia.edu/list

I don't know why you keep calling me a liar. My kid is actually at. UVA and is in an Econ class that is over 400 kids. It's the largest class ever. They even took a picture. Financial Accounting is 700 + online. I think it is because this year is the switch from applying second year to Macintire to applying first year so there are twice as many kids in the prerequisites.

DP. I'm at UVA and just checked. There is no online Financial Accounting class of 700 at UVA. That IS 1/6 of the incoming class - Financial Accounting has never been that popular.

You’re wrong (np). Financial accounting this semester shows almost 700 in it on louslist.

That being said, I do have a student at UVA and I have heard about serious issues that have come up with cheating and they have changed the course design to try to prevent it. I also personally know someone who was suspended for one year due to cheating at UVA. So yes it happens and yes they do get caught.

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Anonymous wrote:If she signed thr UVA Honor Code, at matriculation, which everyone does, she is obligated to report. Honor violations are a very big thing at UVA.



https://honor.virginia.edu/course/honor-code#:~:text=The%20Honor%20Code%20of%20the,lie%2C%20cheat%2C%20or%20steal

She has no actual evidence. People just mention that “everyone” uses Chat GPT for the online test they just had, etc. People have told her the prof in that class knows but does not know how to fix it. I feel like they have this honor code but it is a bit of a smokescreen. It’s my understand kids who cheat get a 0 on the exam and have to write an apology letter. It does not sound like kids are getting expelled. They just get perfect GPAs and get into McIntire and Batton.

What kind of test is this...and isn't an easy way to fix it to make everyone take the test in-person and not online?

Financial Accounting. Over 700 kids and it is an online class with online tests.

Someone's fudging the truth. UVA incoming classes are only 4,400 students. I can assure that 1/6 of your DD's class is not taking Financial Accounting. UVA takes great pride in that it is much smaller than many other public universities at a total of 17,000. Faculty to student ratio is 1:15. 53% of the classes have fewer than 20 students in them. My kids' majors were all very small seminars from sophomore year on .

I'm not fudging. There are 700 kids on the class. Ask the other. parent who posted about the class. The Econ classes are also 400-500 kids.

Highly unlikely. My kid took macro (Ken Elzingaand micro. 130 students each time. UVA publishes lists of classrooms by sizeMost are under 30. The largest is chem at 480 capacity and nursing at 430. There are no econ classrooms that large . Seehttps://classrooms.its.virginia.edu/list

I don't know why you keep calling me a liar. My kid is actually at. UVA and is in an Econ class that is over 400 kids. It's the largest class ever. They even took a picture. Financial Accounting is 700 + online. I think it is because this year is the switch from applying second year to Macintire to applying first year so there are twice as many kids in the prerequisites.

Oh, honey, 1/7 of your DD's incoming class at UVA is not taking an online financial accounting class. It's not even a popular course! Maybe think next time before posting some idle stuff coming out if your teen's mouth.

I wish the other parent on here with a kid in that class would speak up. It’s 100% true. I’m guessing the class is so large because it has first and second years because they changed the application process this year so 2 classes are applying at the same time. It’s a huge online class. I was stunned when my kid told me how large it was and that online is the only option.

I’m the other parent and the class is 700 students. It’s a prerequisite to apply to McIntire, last years 2nd year class had 613 students apply. So honey, please shut your trap if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

https://experience.mcintire.virginia.edu/bs-commerce-admissions-statistics/

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Anonymous wrote:If she signed thr UVA Honor Code, at matriculation, which everyone does, she is obligated to report. Honor violations are a very big thing at UVA.



https://honor.virginia.edu/course/honor-code#:~:text=The%20Honor%20Code%20of%20the,lie%2C%20cheat%2C%20or%20steal

She has no actual evidence. People just mention that “everyone” uses Chat GPT for the online test they just had, etc. People have told her the prof in that class knows but does not know how to fix it. I feel like they have this honor code but it is a bit of a smokescreen. It’s my understand kids who cheat get a 0 on the exam and have to write an apology letter. It does not sound like kids are getting expelled. They just get perfect GPAs and get into McIntire and Batton.

What kind of test is this...and isn't an easy way to fix it to make everyone take the test in-person and not online?

Financial Accounting. Over 700 kids and it is an online class with online tests.

Someone's fudging the truth. UVA incoming classes are only 4,400 students. I can assure that 1/6 of your DD's class is not taking Financial Accounting. UVA takes great pride in that it is much smaller than many other public universities at a total of 17,000. Faculty to student ratio is 1:15. 53% of the classes have fewer than 20 students in them. My kids' majors were all very small seminars from sophomore year on .

I'm not fudging. There are 700 kids on the class. Ask the other. parent who posted about the class. The Econ classes are also 400-500 kids.

Highly unlikely. My kid took macro (Ken Elzingaand micro. 130 students each time. UVA publishes lists of classrooms by sizeMost are under 30. The largest is chem at 480 capacity and nursing at 430. There are no econ classrooms that large . Seehttps://classrooms.its.virginia.edu/list

I don't know why you keep calling me a liar. My kid is actually at. UVA and is in an Econ class that is over 400 kids. It's the largest class ever. They even took a picture. Financial Accounting is 700 + online. I think it is because this year is the switch from applying second year to Macintire to applying first year so there are twice as many kids in the prerequisites.

Oh, honey, 1/7 of your DD's incoming class at UVA is not taking an online financial accounting class. It's not even a popular course! Maybe think next time before posting some idle stuff coming out if your teen's mouth.

I wish the other parent on here with a kid in that class would speak up. It’s 100% true. I’m guessing the class is so large because it has first and second years because they changed the application process this year so 2 classes are applying at the same time. It’s a huge online class. I was stunned when my kid told me how large it was and that online is the only option.

I’m the other parent and the class is 700 students. It’s a prerequisite to apply to McIntire, last years 2nd year class had 613 students apply. So honey, please shut your trap if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

https://experience.mcintire.virginia.edu/bs-commerce-admissions-statistics/

Your link says nothing about class size of Financial Accounting, which is what we are discussing here NOT the entering class accepted or admitted to the undergrad business program. One-seventh on an incoming class at UVA is not taking the same course.

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Anonymous wrote:I teach college, and we have more cheating than ever going on now. But there are two other things that are different. I see a lot more 'grey area' stuff that's on the edge of cheating but not quite there (students recycling their own work, for example, which technically is disallowed if it's a whole assignment - but what if it's only part of it?). I also see a lot less remorse. They may be angry that they're having to serve the consequences, but they don't necessarily see themselves as having done much of anything wrong.

Whenever the recent Harvard president’s plagiarism issues come up on DCUM, I’m amazed by how many people leap to her defense, saying things like “president is not an academic position” & “she only plagiarized in areas that were not key parts of her research.”

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Funny. I'm a Harvard undergrad and Law grad and was involved in that incident. Those are b.s. comments that must be part of some liberal propaganda about the event because those involved in the matter know it for it was. 1) The Board screwed up
royally for the nomination; (2) Many in the Harvard community raised concerns about her eligibity and suitability (she had never held a university or college administrative post before); 3) many, self included, questioned her academic record (very little writing done in a very narrow area) but 4) no, the Board (now in shambles) wanted her for the DEI bragging rights; so 5) many alums did not attend her inauguration two summers ago because they felt the board had screwed up, so were not surprised when 6) her inexperience was demonstrated when she was MIA and nonresponsive (!) during the first of the pro-Hamas protests at Harvard -at a time when Harvard could have taken the lead in the matter for all colleges in the US, followed by (7) her disastrous performance before congress; (8) discovery of the plagiarism, which became a bigger and bigger issue while she and the Board tried to find excuses to fight it; at which point she made an ill-timed decision to go on a $$ ("well we already had it booked") vacation out of the country, at which the board had to call her to say it was over, followed by her 9) immature op-eds in the press which no one paid attention to; all of which resulted on 10) humiliation of the University; upset on the Board, still ongoing; the installation of a well-liked conservative as provost to provide "adult supervision" over the mess and a search for a new President.

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Anonymous wrote:If she signed thr UVA Honor Code, at matriculation, which everyone does, she is obligated to report. Honor violations are a very big thing at UVA.



https://honor.virginia.edu/course/honor-code#:~:text=The%20Honor%20Code%20of%20the,lie%2C%20cheat%2C%20or%20steal

She has no actual evidence. People just mention that “everyone” uses Chat GPT for the online test they just had, etc. People have told her the prof in that class knows but does not know how to fix it. I feel like they have this honor code but it is a bit of a smokescreen. It’s my understand kids who cheat get a 0 on the exam and have to write an apology letter. It does not sound like kids are getting expelled. They just get perfect GPAs and get into McIntire and Batton.

What kind of test is this...and isn't an easy way to fix it to make everyone take the test in-person and not online?

Financial Accounting. Over 700 kids and it is an online class with online tests.

Someone's fudging the truth. UVA incoming classes are only 4,400 students. I can assure that 1/6 of your DD's class is not taking Financial Accounting. UVA takes great pride in that it is much smaller than many other public universities at a total of 17,000. Faculty to student ratio is 1:15. 53% of the classes have fewer than 20 students in them. My kids' majors were all very small seminars from sophomore year on .

I'm not fudging. There are 700 kids on the class. Ask the other. parent who posted about the class. The Econ classes are also 400-500 kids.

Highly unlikely. My kid took macro (Ken Elzingaand micro. 130 students each time. UVA publishes lists of classrooms by sizeMost are under 30. The largest is chem at 480 capacity and nursing at 430. There are no econ classrooms that large . Seehttps://classrooms.its.virginia.edu/list

I don't know why you keep calling me a liar. My kid is actually at. UVA and is in an Econ class that is over 400 kids. It's the largest class ever. They even took a picture. Financial Accounting is 700 + online. I think it is because this year is the switch from applying second year to Macintire to applying first year so there are twice as many kids in the prerequisites.

Oh, honey, 1/7 of your DD's incoming class at UVA is not taking an online financial accounting class. It's not even a popular course! Maybe think next time before posting some idle stuff coming out if your teen's mouth.

I wish the other parent on here with a kid in that class would speak up. It’s 100% true. I’m guessing the class is so large because it has first and second years because they changed the application process this year so 2 classes are applying at the same time. It’s a huge online class. I was stunned when my kid told me how large it was and that online is the only option.

I’m the other parent and the class is 700 students. It’s a prerequisite to apply to McIntire, last years 2nd year class had 613 students apply. So honey, please shut your trap if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

https://experience.mcintire.virginia.edu/bs-commerce-admissions-statistics/

Your link says nothing about class size of Financial Accounting, which is what we are discussing here NOT the entering class accepted or admitted to the undergrad business program. One-seventh on an incoming class at UVA is not taking the same course.

Ok go to louslist, check fall 2024 and then go to comm school and find financial accounting. Then tell us what number you see.

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Anonymous wrote:If she signed thr UVA Honor Code, at matriculation, which everyone does, she is obligated to report. Honor violations are a very big thing at UVA.



https://honor.virginia.edu/course/honor-code#:~:text=The%20Honor%20Code%20of%20the,lie%2C%20cheat%2C%20or%20steal

They used to be. I think they’re moving away from enforcement of that.

Why do you comment when you don't even know the system. "They" is not the university, it's a student-run operation and taken very seriously. My DD served as a judge in student trials. https://provost.virginia.edu/faculty-handbook/honor-system-and-faculty

I was going by this: https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-students-vote-change-honor-sanction-expulsion-two-semester-suspension

I was actually involved in an honor code violation trial when I was there that resulted in the expulsion of the student. It was for cheating in a class that I was a TA for.

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Anonymous wrote:If she signed thr UVA Honor Code, at matriculation, which everyone does, she is obligated to report. Honor violations are a very big thing at UVA.



https://honor.virginia.edu/course/honor-code#:~:text=The%20Honor%20Code%20of%20the,lie%2C%20cheat%2C%20or%20steal

She has no actual evidence. People just mention that “everyone” uses Chat GPT for the online test they just had, etc. People have told her the prof in that class knows but does not know how to fix it. I feel like they have this honor code but it is a bit of a smokescreen. It’s my understand kids who cheat get a 0 on the exam and have to write an apology letter. It does not sound like kids are getting expelled. They just get perfect GPAs and get into McIntire and Batton.

What kind of test is this...and isn't an easy way to fix it to make everyone take the test in-person and not online?

Financial Accounting. Over 700 kids and it is an online class with online tests.

Someone's fudging the truth. UVA incoming classes are only 4,400 students. I can assure that 1/6 of your DD's class is not taking Financial Accounting. UVA takes great pride in that it is much smaller than many other public universities at a total of 17,000. Faculty to student ratio is 1:15. 53% of the classes have fewer than 20 students in them. My kids' majors were all very small seminars from sophomore year on .

I'm not fudging. There are 700 kids on the class. Ask the other. parent who posted about the class. The Econ classes are also 400-500 kids.

Highly unlikely. My kid took macro (Ken Elzingaand micro. 130 students each time. UVA publishes lists of classrooms by sizeMost are under 30. The largest is chem at 480 capacity and nursing at 430. There are no econ classrooms that large . Seehttps://classrooms.its.virginia.edu/list

I don't know why you keep calling me a liar. My kid is actually at. UVA and is in an Econ class that is over 400 kids. It's the largest class ever. They even took a picture. Financial Accounting is 700 + online. I think it is because this year is the switch from applying second year to Macintire to applying first year so there are twice as many kids in the prerequisites.

Oh, honey, 1/7 of your DD's incoming class at UVA is not taking an online financial accounting class. It's not even a popular course! Maybe think next time before posting some idle stuff coming out if your teen's mouth.

I wish the other parent on here with a kid in that class would speak up. It’s 100% true. I’m guessing the class is so large because it has first and second years because they changed the application process this year so 2 classes are applying at the same time. It’s a huge online class. I was stunned when my kid told me how large it was and that online is the only option.

I’m the other parent and the class is 700 students. It’s a prerequisite to apply to McIntire, last years 2nd year class had 613 students apply. So honey, please shut your trap if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

https://experience.mcintire.virginia.edu/bs-commerce-admissions-statistics/

Thank you so much! I felt I was being gaslighted about a class my own kid is in (and calls me about weekly).