Prop 77 - still torn!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am for it, because I think with will help servers in the long run (even if there is some upheaval in the short term), it will help tipped workers who are not servers, and because I think it is time restaurants moved to the same labor model as virtually every other business in the country. Restaurants use this system to avoid paying as much as they should in taxes, and UE compensation insurance.

I also think that this will make servers and other tipped workers pay more in taxes. It's not under the table anymore.

Eh, nowadays this isn't as much of an issue. When I was last working in a trendy expensive restaurant 7 years ago, 85% of my tips were done on the credit card and therefore taxed. These days I bet it's even higher. Cash is on its death bed for 95% of consumers. The remaining 5% are old people and people who make money under the table in cash businesses (strippers, drug dealers, undocumented workers, small biz owners skimming, etc.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Baristas do NOT make the tipped minimum wage. Stop spreading lies.

I've been asking servers around town for weeks. Dolcezza hires people below minimum wage. So: yes they do.

Yup, that's the crux of this issue. Tipped employees can make as little as $3.33/hour, but most make somewhere between $5-10/hour. This is still below the current minimum wage of $12.50/hour.

But employers make up the difference! Stop spreading more lies.

What do you think the compliance rate is among businesses on this rule? 80% of the wage and hour enforcement cases brought by the DOL in the Obama years were in the restaurant industry. Add to that the problem that undocumented workers are afraid to come forward and even pick up back pay awards from govt offices because of Trump ICE enforcement.

How much is ROC paying you?

And how much is the NRA paying you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Baristas do NOT make the tipped minimum wage. Stop spreading lies.

I've been asking servers around town for weeks. Dolcezza hires people below minimum wage. So: yes they do.

Yup, that's the crux of this issue. Tipped employees can make as little as $3.33/hour, but most make somewhere between $5-10/hour. This is still below the current minimum wage of $12.50/hour.

But employers make up the difference! Stop spreading more lies.

What do you think the compliance rate is among businesses on this rule? 80% of the wage and hour enforcement cases brought by the DOL in the Obama years were in the restaurant industry. Add to that the problem that undocumented workers are afraid to come forward and even pick up back pay awards from govt offices because of Trump ICE enforcement.

How much is ROC paying you?

And how much is the NRA paying you?

Just as I thought. Pretty obscure acronym, yet you know it and are following this thread closely. You’re on the payroll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That is what I posted on Facebook. I am from DC and have worked in the industry well over ten years, currently supporting a family with 2 healthy restaurant incomes. There are other issues and complications that come from not paying your staff. Please vote YES!!

So are you okay when diners no longer tip at restaurants? This will mean people aren't tipping like in Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi all,
To all my restaurant friends,
I rarely Facebook but I have to explain my position on prop 77 explicitly.
DC restaurant industry pays as little as possible per hour and has lobbied for over 20 years to do so (since 1991.) New prop will cause restaurants to lose money (over 10/hr) and so they have bankrolled a campaign called "save our tips."
Most local restaurants (on their own interest, obviously) have bankrolled this lobbying effort.
The lobbying firm behind this effort is the same who helped to elect Trump.
Please realize that a few states have legalized minimum wage for servers.
Please realize that BEFORE Prop 77 NO ONE KNEW WE MADE $3/ hr and THEY TIPPED 20%.
AFTER PROP 77, MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BE AWARE OF THE CHANGE AND WILL CONTINUE TO TIP 15-20% This has already passed and prospered on the West coast.
This is a PROGRESSIVE measure, just like marijuana legalization and gay marriage, DC IS AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
The one downside of this bill is that it will negatively effect local small businesses. I acknowledge this, but maintain, that as the victims of an NRA (national restaurant assoc.) Lobbying effort for 20 + years, it SHOULD NOT BE ON THE BACK OF RESTAURANT WORKERS TO MAKE UP THIS DEFICIT.
Please text/call with questions and ask your co-workers this question: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WILL LOSE TIPS? There is a lot of misinformation going on her, because your bosses are paying for this to save money.
Also, since most of your co workers have been convinced, as well as money-hungry council members and MS. Mayor Muriel, you have nothing to lose by voting YES!!!

Very deceptive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Baristas do NOT make the tipped minimum wage. Stop spreading lies.

I've been asking servers around town for weeks. Dolcezza hires people below minimum wage. So: yes they do.

Yup, that's the crux of this issue. Tipped employees can make as little as $3.33/hour, but most make somewhere between $5-10/hour. This is still below the current minimum wage of $12.50/hour.

But employers make up the difference! Stop spreading more lies.

What do you think the compliance rate is among businesses on this rule? 80% of the wage and hour enforcement cases brought by the DOL in the Obama years were in the restaurant industry. Add to that the problem that undocumented workers are afraid to come forward and even pick up back pay awards from govt offices because of Trump ICE enforcement.

How much is ROC paying you?

And how much is the NRA paying you?

Just as I thought. Pretty obscure acronym, yet you know it and are following this thread closely. You’re on the payroll.

As do you. For the record, I do not work for ROC and wouldn’t financially benefit from this initiative passing. How about you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi all,
To all my restaurant friends,
I rarely Facebook but I have to explain my position on prop 77 explicitly.
DC restaurant industry pays as little as possible per hour and has lobbied for over 20 years to do so (since 1991.) New prop will cause restaurants to lose money (over 10/hr) and so they have bankrolled a campaign called "save our tips."
Most local restaurants (on their own interest, obviously) have bankrolled this lobbying effort.
The lobbying firm behind this effort is the same who helped to elect Trump.
Please realize that a few states have legalized minimum wage for servers.
Please realize that BEFORE Prop 77 NO ONE KNEW WE MADE $3/ hr and THEY TIPPED 20%.
AFTER PROP 77, MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BE AWARE OF THE CHANGE AND WILL CONTINUE TO TIP 15-20% This has already passed and prospered on the West coast.
This is a PROGRESSIVE measure, just like marijuana legalization and gay marriage, DC IS AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
The one downside of this bill is that it will negatively effect local small businesses. I acknowledge this, but maintain, that as the victims of an NRA (national restaurant assoc.) Lobbying effort for 20 + years, it SHOULD NOT BE ON THE BACK OF RESTAURANT WORKERS TO MAKE UP THIS DEFICIT.
Please text/call with questions and ask your co-workers this question: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WILL LOSE TIPS? There is a lot of misinformation going on her, because your bosses are paying for this to save money.
Also, since most of your co workers have been convinced, as well as money-hungry council members and MS. Mayor Muriel, you have nothing to lose by voting YES!!!

Very deceptive.

Yes that's ridiculous. If you make a good wage, you don't need a tip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi all,
To all my restaurant friends,
I rarely Facebook but I have to explain my position on prop 77 explicitly.
DC restaurant industry pays as little as possible per hour and has lobbied for over 20 years to do so (since 1991.) New prop will cause restaurants to lose money (over 10/hr) and so they have bankrolled a campaign called "save our tips."
Most local restaurants (on their own interest, obviously) have bankrolled this lobbying effort.
The lobbying firm behind this effort is the same who helped to elect Trump.
Please realize that a few states have legalized minimum wage for servers.
Please realize that BEFORE Prop 77 NO ONE KNEW WE MADE $3/ hr and THEY TIPPED 20%.
AFTER PROP 77, MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BE AWARE OF THE CHANGE AND WILL CONTINUE TO TIP 15-20% This has already passed and prospered on the West coast.
This is a PROGRESSIVE measure, just like marijuana legalization and gay marriage, DC IS AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
The one downside of this bill is that it will negatively effect local small businesses. I acknowledge this, but maintain, that as the victims of an NRA (national restaurant assoc.) Lobbying effort for 20 + years, it SHOULD NOT BE ON THE BACK OF RESTAURANT WORKERS TO MAKE UP THIS DEFICIT.
Please text/call with questions and ask your co-workers this question: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WILL LOSE TIPS? There is a lot of misinformation going on her, because your bosses are paying for this to save money.
Also, since most of your co workers have been convinced, as well as money-hungry council members and MS. Mayor Muriel, you have nothing to lose by voting YES!!!

Very deceptive.

Yes that's ridiculous. If you make a good wage, you don't need a tip.

You think 15/hour is a good wage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi all,
To all my restaurant friends,
I rarely Facebook but I have to explain my position on prop 77 explicitly.
DC restaurant industry pays as little as possible per hour and has lobbied for over 20 years to do so (since 1991.) New prop will cause restaurants to lose money (over 10/hr) and so they have bankrolled a campaign called "save our tips."
Most local restaurants (on their own interest, obviously) have bankrolled this lobbying effort.
The lobbying firm behind this effort is the same who helped to elect Trump.
Please realize that a few states have legalized minimum wage for servers.
Please realize that BEFORE Prop 77 NO ONE KNEW WE MADE $3/ hr and THEY TIPPED 20%.
AFTER PROP 77, MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BE AWARE OF THE CHANGE AND WILL CONTINUE TO TIP 15-20% This has already passed and prospered on the West coast.
This is a PROGRESSIVE measure, just like marijuana legalization and gay marriage, DC IS AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
The one downside of this bill is that it will negatively effect local small businesses. I acknowledge this, but maintain, that as the victims of an NRA (national restaurant assoc.) Lobbying effort for 20 + years, it SHOULD NOT BE ON THE BACK OF RESTAURANT WORKERS TO MAKE UP THIS DEFICIT.
Please text/call with questions and ask your co-workers this question: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WILL LOSE TIPS? There is a lot of misinformation going on her, because your bosses are paying for this to save money.
Also, since most of your co workers have been convinced, as well as money-hungry council members and MS. Mayor Muriel, you have nothing to lose by voting YES!!!

Very deceptive.

Yes that's ridiculous. If you make a good wage, you don't need a tip.

You think 15/hour is a good wage?

Yes. Costco workers aren't tipped, nor are most other lower waged workers. We just hired our secretary at work for $20 an hour- no tips or bonus either and she has a BA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi all,
To all my restaurant friends,
I rarely Facebook but I have to explain my position on prop 77 explicitly.
DC restaurant industry pays as little as possible per hour and has lobbied for over 20 years to do so (since 1991.) New prop will cause restaurants to lose money (over 10/hr) and so they have bankrolled a campaign called "save our tips."
Most local restaurants (on their own interest, obviously) have bankrolled this lobbying effort.
The lobbying firm behind this effort is the same who helped to elect Trump.
Please realize that a few states have legalized minimum wage for servers.
Please realize that BEFORE Prop 77 NO ONE KNEW WE MADE $3/ hr and THEY TIPPED 20%.
AFTER PROP 77, MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT BE AWARE OF THE CHANGE AND WILL CONTINUE TO TIP 15-20% This has already passed and prospered on the West coast.
This is a PROGRESSIVE measure, just like marijuana legalization and gay marriage, DC IS AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
The one downside of this bill is that it will negatively effect local small businesses. I acknowledge this, but maintain, that as the victims of an NRA (national restaurant assoc.) Lobbying effort for 20 + years, it SHOULD NOT BE ON THE BACK OF RESTAURANT WORKERS TO MAKE UP THIS DEFICIT.
Please text/call with questions and ask your co-workers this question: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WILL LOSE TIPS? There is a lot of misinformation going on her, because your bosses are paying for this to save money.
Also, since most of your co workers have been convinced, as well as money-hungry council members and MS. Mayor Muriel, you have nothing to lose by voting YES!!!

Very deceptive.

Yes that's ridiculous. If you make a good wage, you don't need a tip.

You think 15/hour is a good wage?

For unskilled labor that does not require any education?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Ha ha, sure. Ok.

I don’t stand to benefit from anyone or anything financially. I’m early retired and live in downtown DC. I get out quite a bit — not at high end places, btw, which isnt my thing — and I know many, many bartenders and servers. Every single one of them, many of whom are people of color are adamantly opposed to this law. I don’t know a single person in the industry who isn’t.

I also make a point of asking servers who I don’t know what they think. The last one I asked (on an inexpensive Father’s Day brunch on Florida Avenue) was an African American woman. She didn’t hesitate: “I’m against it.”

I have enough respect for the affected people to support their view. They’re not idiots who need to be “protected” by outside groups with their own agenda.

[Anonymous]

The average for DC tipped workers is WELL ABOVE minimum wage. Don't put our local THRIVING restaurant industry out of business and HUNDREDS of people out of a job because some self-serving interest group wants to use us as their pet project experiment to further their goals of unionizing our industry.

As tipped workers, we are already guaranteed BY LAW to make at least minimum wage - which will be $15/hour in DC by 2020 (LONG before the proposed i77 would have it in 2026). The difference is that #initiative77 will ELIMINATE the tip credit, leaving us all to scrape by on solely $15/hour. With tips, we, on average, make a HELL OF A LOT MORE than $15/hour.

If you think people are still gonna tip ON TOP of the 30% +++++ higher menu prices that will be implemented to cover a 200% +++ higher labor cost, think again. Just look at how people lost their sh*t on Starbucks last week when they raise the price of coffee by 20 CENTS. 20 F*****G CENTS and people lost it. Imagine how our tips and businesses will suffer under the guaranteed increase in menu prices across the board.

Having a tip credit system allows ME to make good money and YOU, the consumer, to enjoy such popular things like HAPPY HOUR AND BOTTOMLESS BRUNCH. Those things are just an example of the many things that will be lost under #initiative77.

PLEASE VOTE NO.

[Anonymous]

The above post is from a server in a dive bar. Not Le Diplomate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The average for DC tipped workers is WELL ABOVE minimum wage. Don't put our local THRIVING restaurant industry out of business and HUNDREDS of people out of a job because some self-serving interest group wants to use us as their pet project experiment to further their goals of unionizing our industry.

As tipped workers, we are already guaranteed BY LAW to make at least minimum wage - which will be $15/hour in DC by 2020 (LONG before the proposed i77 would have it in 2026). The difference is that #initiative77 will ELIMINATE the tip credit, leaving us all to scrape by on solely $15/hour. With tips, we, on average, make a HELL OF A LOT MORE than $15/hour.

If you think people are still gonna tip ON TOP of the 30% +++++ higher menu prices that will be implemented to cover a 200% +++ higher labor cost, think again. Just look at how people lost their sh*t on Starbucks last week when they raise the price of coffee by 20 CENTS. 20 F*****G CENTS and people lost it. Imagine how our tips and businesses will suffer under the guaranteed increase in menu prices across the board.

Having a tip credit system allows ME to make good money and YOU, the consumer, to enjoy such popular things like HAPPY HOUR AND BOTTOMLESS BRUNCH. Those things are just an example of the many things that will be lost under #initiative77.

PLEASE VOTE NO.

Too late - I already voted YES. I'm even wearing the "I Voted/Yo Vote" sticker on my shirt today at work

[Anonymous]

I voted For. Can’t wait to stop paying tips!