Prop 77 - still torn!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the ballot wording was misleading. a lot of people don't understand that tips count towards minimum wage. I understand the frustration with overturning a vote (I would love a do-over with Briane getting reelcted too!), but in this case when the overwhelming majority of servers are opposed to this measure that is supposed to "help" them then you really do need reconsider what is at stake.

People voted for what they voted for. That's how it works. Are the councilmembers really saying, well, the voters didn't really understand what they voted for, plus they voted for me, so it's ok for me to overturn it?

Would you be happier if they put a vote up to overturn it on the November ballot? That would be an interesting contest!

[Anonymous]

What's happening with prop 77?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's happening with prop 77?

its about to be overturned. and then there will a be a lawsuit that drags out...

[Anonymous]

I voted for Prop 77. I wasn't going to initially. But then as I started asking wait staff in small restaurants in NW DC, it became clear that most of them supported this. Owners were talking either that they would have to raise prices to cover the cost if wages or add a service charge. If they raised prices, I might go out a bit less, but probably not to the places we frequent. I would still give a tip. A tip is given based on your service to me. If not, there will be a service charge which would still reward your service.

I honestly feel that only a particular set of waitstaff at really high-end restaurants where a person might get more than a $12 tip are the ones complaining, supported by the restaurant industry. You are standing on your feet for hours, you should be able to walk out the door with minimum wage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I voted for Prop 77. I wasn't going to initially. But then as I started asking wait staff in small restaurants in NW DC, it became clear that most of them supported this. Owners were talking either that they would have to raise prices to cover the cost if wages or add a service charge. If they raised prices, I might go out a bit less, but probably not to the places we frequent. I would still give a tip. A tip is given based on your service to me. If not, there will be a service charge which would still reward your service.

I honestly feel that only a particular set of waitstaff at really high-end restaurants where a person might get more than a $12 tip are the ones complaining, supported by the restaurant industry. You are standing on your feet for hours, you should be able to walk out the door with minimum wage.

We are already walking out the door with minimum wage. Force it if it's not happening. I've worked in a restaurants since end of 1997. I don't support it because I'm afraid it would end the easy entry into business. We hire anybody and everybody, just come in and have an ID on you. No application to fill in about your experience and nobody will call your references.
Money wise I should benefit from prop 77- less people maybe, but more money, and with 20 years of experience and still in good shape, boss will keep me around. Right now we get a lot of tourists who don't even tip, but that's why we have the minimum and the minimum is going up.
Anyhow, I'm getting out of the business soon, but please leave one industry to people who want to work and where entry is super easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I voted for Prop 77. I wasn't going to initially. But then as I started asking wait staff in small restaurants in NW DC, it became clear that most of them supported this. Owners were talking either that they would have to raise prices to cover the cost if wages or add a service charge. If they raised prices, I might go out a bit less, but probably not to the places we frequent. I would still give a tip. A tip is given based on your service to me. If not, there will be a service charge which would still reward your service.

I honestly feel that only a particular set of waitstaff at really high-end restaurants where a person might get more than a $12 tip are the ones complaining, supported by the restaurant industry. You are standing on your feet for hours, you should be able to walk out the door with minimum wage.

We are already walking out the door with minimum wage. Force it if it's not happening. I've worked in a restaurants since end of 1997. I don't support it because I'm afraid it would end the easy entry into business. We hire anybody and everybody, just come in and have an ID on you. No application to fill in about your experience and nobody will call your references.
Money wise I should benefit from prop 77- less people maybe, but more money, and with 20 years of experience and still in good shape, boss will keep me around. Right now we get a lot of tourists who don't even tip, but that's why we have the minimum and the minimum is going up.
Anyhow, I'm getting out of the business soon, but please leave one industry to people who want to work and where entry is super easy.

Wages are not going to effect entry into the business, except that you might have more people competing for the jobs. Even so, plenty of teenagers I know got jobs in restaurants this past summer in this area. They don't have a lot of references or experience.

I worked retail for several years. You need people, you hire them even if they don't have a lot of experience.

If tourists aren't tipping, then it may be that they are from overseas where most restaurants have a service charge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's happening with prop 77?

its about to be overturned. and then there will a be a lawsuit that drags out...

No, there won't, because overturning it is allowed under DC law. This has been done multiple times in the past. No lawsuits.

[Anonymous]

With the tip credit falling, full-service D.C. restaurants cut 3,700 jobs

The 12% reduction compares with layoffs of 1.7% for limited-service places, according to federal data.

By Peter Romeo on Mar. 25, 2024

Full-service restaurants in Washington, D.C., have cut 3,700 jobs—about 12% of their workforce—since the jurisdiction began rolling back its tip credit in May 2023, according to data newly released by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The federal agency did not draw a correlation between the drop in jobs and the reduction in the credit, which fell in May and then again in July of last year. Restaurants there have also been affected by a slow return of government workers and employees of companies that interact with the government to their downtown offices. Operators say traffic has also been dampened by fears about rising nighttime crime.

But restaurants without table service have not cut jobs nearly as aggressively as their full-service counterparts have. Between May 1 of last year and the end of January 24, limited-service places have eliminated 400 positions, or just 1.7% of their collective payrolls.

In addition, downtown offices were even emptier during the corresponding eight months of a year earlier, yet full-service places added 1,200 positions during that timeframe, an increase in their workforce of 4.5%, according to the BLS’ numbers.

Industry advocates say the numbers underscore the damage that has been done to the local restaurant market by the ongoing phase-out of the tip credit.

story continues - https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/workforce/tip-credit-falling-full-service-dc-restaurants-cut-3700-jobs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the tip credit falling, full-service D.C. restaurants cut 3,700 jobs

The 12% reduction compares with layoffs of 1.7% for limited-service places, according to federal data.

By Peter Romeo on Mar. 25, 2024

Full-service restaurants in Washington, D.C., have cut 3,700 jobs—about 12% of their workforce—since the jurisdiction began rolling back its tip credit in May 2023, according to data newly released by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The federal agency did not draw a correlation between the drop in jobs and the reduction in the credit, which fell in May and then again in July of last year. Restaurants there have also been affected by a slow return of government workers and employees of companies that interact with the government to their downtown offices. Operators say traffic has also been dampened by fears about rising nighttime crime.

But restaurants without table service have not cut jobs nearly as aggressively as their full-service counterparts have. Between May 1 of last year and the end of January 24, limited-service places have eliminated 400 positions, or just 1.7% of their collective payrolls.

In addition, downtown offices were even emptier during the corresponding eight months of a year earlier, yet full-service places added 1,200 positions during that timeframe, an increase in their workforce of 4.5%, according to the BLS’ numbers.

Industry advocates say the numbers underscore the damage that has been done to the local restaurant market by the ongoing phase-out of the tip credit.

story continues - https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/workforce/tip-credit-falling-full-service-dc-restaurants-cut-3700-jobs

Shill for restaurant owners says what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of servers are opposed.

Because they don't have to pay taxes on tips they don't declare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the tip credit falling, full-service D.C. restaurants cut 3,700 jobs

The 12% reduction compares with layoffs of 1.7% for limited-service places, according to federal data.

By Peter Romeo on Mar. 25, 2024

Full-service restaurants in Washington, D.C., have cut 3,700 jobs—about 12% of their workforce—since the jurisdiction began rolling back its tip credit in May 2023, according to data newly released by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The federal agency did not draw a correlation between the drop in jobs and the reduction in the credit, which fell in May and then again in July of last year. Restaurants there have also been affected by a slow return of government workers and employees of companies that interact with the government to their downtown offices. Operators say traffic has also been dampened by fears about rising nighttime crime.

But restaurants without table service have not cut jobs nearly as aggressively as their full-service counterparts have. Between May 1 of last year and the end of January 24, limited-service places have eliminated 400 positions, or just 1.7% of their collective payrolls.

In addition, downtown offices were even emptier during the corresponding eight months of a year earlier, yet full-service places added 1,200 positions during that timeframe, an increase in their workforce of 4.5%, according to the BLS’ numbers.

Industry advocates say the numbers underscore the damage that has been done to the local restaurant market by the ongoing phase-out of the tip credit.

story continues - https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/workforce/tip-credit-falling-full-service-dc-restaurants-cut-3700-jobs

Shill for restaurant owners says what?

As standards of living approach zero, the clueless get louder.