Prop 77 - still torn!!

[Anonymous]

I’m voting for it. Then I can stop figuring out tips. It’s better that DC move to a European system with a higher wage but no tips.

[Anonymous]

ALWAYS VOTE for a fair min. wage! People will keep tipping because it’s a time- honored tradition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think servers are against it based on hopes and dreams and unknowns, much like many people are against a change, particularly if a well-funded industry group has been whispering in your ear for a long time that this will end badly for you.

I'm voting for it.

What do you do for a living?

I'm a college professor. I worked tipped jobs through grad school.

I have seen so many propositions like this cleverly opposed by industry groups as a resident of California and then Florida -- propositions that would lower utility costs, or provide financial aid for services, or increase transportation options. I now make my decision on what the facts say, not what the worst-case scenario says. And the facts say that we have very low unemployment, so I'm not terribly worried about putting a lot of people on the street because small businesses close, and outside of some high-priced restaurants, the workers will absolutely benefit.

Remember, $15/hr won't get added to everyone's bill; it will be distributed among all patrons. If a server/bartender is truly doing so well on tips that he's worried about this bill, then the place is doing enough volume for the difference to be only a little noticeable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


ALWAYS VOTE for a fair min. wage! People will keep tipping because it’s a time- honored tradition.

This is so not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks, here's the list of jobs that would be affected by this. All these jobs are making the minimum "tipped wage" of $3.33/hour because they also get tips.

While all the focus has been on restaurant workers, these other job categories get nowhere near close to actual minimum wage based on tips. And in many cases their employers refuse to pay them the differential, as required by law.

It's absolutely insane to me that nail salon workers are making just over $3/hour. Absolutely ridiculous.

List of jobs that would increase to $15/hour with an 8 year phase-in period by voting Yes on 77:
-Front of house restaurant employees (servers, hosts, etc)
-Back of house restaurant employees (dishwashers, food prep, janitorial)
-Car washers
-Nail salon workers
-Parking attendants
-Valets at the hotel
-Landscapers
-Housecleaners
-Hair stylists
-Massage therapists
-Baristas
-...basically anyone who may get a tip.

The list is bonkers of individuals in the service industry who get these artificially low wages, simply because they may (or may not!) get a tip.

Oh please.

The DC liberals of dcum are paying their housecleaners and yard boys under the table so this will not affect them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think servers are against it based on hopes and dreams and unknowns, much like many people are against a change, particularly if a well-funded industry group has been whispering in your ear for a long time that this will end badly for you.

I'm voting for it.

What do you do for a living?

I'm a college professor. I worked tipped jobs through grad school.

I have seen so many propositions like this cleverly opposed by industry groups as a resident of California and then Florida -- propositions that would lower utility costs, or provide financial aid for services, or increase transportation options. I now make my decision on what the facts say, not what the worst-case scenario says. And the facts say that we have very low unemployment, so I'm not terribly worried about putting a lot of people on the street because small businesses close, and outside of some high-priced restaurants, the workers will absolutely benefit.

Remember, $15/hr won't get added to everyone's bill; it will be distributed among all patrons. If a server/bartender is truly doing so well on tips that he's worried about this bill, then the place is doing enough volume for the difference to be only a little noticeable.

Ha ha, a college professor! I couldn’t have guessed better. As soon as I read your post and your claim to know what others were thinking and feeling I knew it had to be something like that. Of course you know better than the poor ignorant slobs directly affected could ever know for themselves!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what is swaying me to Yes. I had no idea so many people outside the restaurant industry were making $3.33/hour. It's inhuman and a travesty of law.

However, this debate overlooks that in the District of Columbia, nearly 60 percent of tipped employees work in non-restaurant industries—including the hair stylists, manicurists, cosmetologists, hotel workers, taxi drivers, delivery drivers, parking lot and garage attendants, car wash workers, and others that make up the approximately 17,000 tipped workers not in the restaurant industry.
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If passed, Initiative 77 would immediately raise the base wage for tipped workers to $4.50 in July and provide increases of $1.50 every year thereafter until reaching $15.00 in 2025.[1] By 2026, the wage for all workers would be $15.00 and indexed to increases in the consumer price index.
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D.C.’s regulations provide a list of tipped employees that reaches far beyond the restaurant industry: “waiters, waitresses, counter personnel who serve customers, bus persons, server helpers, service bartenders, car wash attendants, parking lot attendants, parking garage attendants, bootblacks, hotel doorkeepers, bellhops, hat checkers, cosmetologists, manicurists, pedicurists, shampooers and aestheticians.” Out of the 17,000 tipped workers not in the restaurant industry, car wash workers represent about 500, personal care workers (like hairdressers, shampooers, and manicurists) alone number at least 1,000 in the city, hotel concierges and baggage porters around 1,500, and parking lot attendants almost 2,500.[6] Many workers in the gig economy who work for tips may also not be accounted for in official estimates.

https://www.nelp.org/news-releases/initiative-77-vital-measure-d-c-s-almost-30000-tipped-workers/

Cosmetologists are NOT making $3.33/hour

They get paid by service and many of them are making far more money than you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think servers are against it based on hopes and dreams and unknowns, much like many people are against a change, particularly if a well-funded industry group has been whispering in your ear for a long time that this will end badly for you.

I'm voting for it.

You are voting from a place of ignorant benevolence.

Of course you who does not work or labor must know more than those who do.

How condescending and wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think servers are against it based on hopes and dreams and unknowns, much like many people are against a change, particularly if a well-funded industry group has been whispering in your ear for a long time that this will end badly for you.

I'm voting for it.

What do you do for a living?

I'm a college professor. I worked tipped jobs through grad school.

I have seen so many propositions like this cleverly opposed by industry groups as a resident of California and then Florida -- propositions that would lower utility costs, or provide financial aid for services, or increase transportation options. I now make my decision on what the facts say, not what the worst-case scenario says. And the facts say that we have very low unemployment, so I'm not terribly worried about putting a lot of people on the street because small businesses close, and outside of some high-priced restaurants, the workers will absolutely benefit.

Remember, $15/hr won't get added to everyone's bill; it will be distributed among all patrons. If a server/bartender is truly doing so well on tips that he's worried about this bill, then the place is doing enough volume for the difference to be only a little noticeable.

College professor?

So you don't really work.

[Anonymous]

Apparently the vicious restaurant lobby also has taken to threatening people on twitter. This solidified my vote as a YES.

https://twitter.com/jarena2/status/1008789759790145537

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the vicious restaurant lobby also has taken to threatening people on twitter. This solidified my vote as a YES.

https://twitter.com/jarena2/status/1008789759790145537

So you are cutting off your nose to spite your face?

[Anonymous]

Baristas do NOT make the tipped minimum wage. Stop spreading lies.

[Anonymous]

And same goes for the rest of that list. Many of those people get tips but they do not make the tipped minimum wage. No massage therapist would work in DC for tips when they can make 50-100/hour elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Baristas do NOT make the tipped minimum wage. Stop spreading lies.

Honestly is sounds like those who are pushing for this to pass have advocates sock puppeting this thread and making up things while masquerading as "informed citizens."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Baristas do NOT make the tipped minimum wage. Stop spreading lies.

Honestly is sounds like those who are pushing for this to pass have advocates sock puppeting this thread and making up things while masquerading as "informed citizens."

I’m actually thinking the same thing! It’s like they are infiltrating everywhere.