Prop 77 - still torn!!

Anonymous
Another YES vote here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ha ha, sure. Ok.

I don’t stand to benefit from anyone or anything financially. I’m early retired and live in downtown DC. I get out quite a bit — not at high end places, btw, which isnt my thing — and I know many, many bartenders and servers. Every single one of them, many of whom are people of color are adamantly opposed to this law. I don’t know a single person in the industry who isn’t.

I also make a point of asking servers who I don’t know what they think. The last one I asked (on an inexpensive Father’s Day brunch on Florida Avenue) was an African American woman. She didn’t hesitate: “I’m against it.”

I have enough respect for the affected people to support their view. They’re not idiots who need to be “protected” by outside groups with their own agenda.


+1 but leave it to the smug DCUM crowd to assume what’s best for everyone.
jsteele
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With 128 of 143 precincts counted, "Yes" is ahead 55-44. So, it looks like it will pass. The DC Council has the right to overturn the initiative and have done so in the past. Almost all Council members opposed the initiative and there is big money that would support their overturning it. So, expect a Council battle almost immediately.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:With 128 of 143 precincts counted, "Yes" is ahead 55-44. So, it looks like it will pass. The DC Council has the right to overturn the initiative and have done so in the past. Almost all Council members opposed the initiative and there is big money that would support their overturning it. So, expect a Council battle almost immediately.


Really disappointed to hear this. And regarding the Council battle, Mary Cheh will lose my support if she doesn't come around on this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:With 128 of 143 precincts counted, "Yes" is ahead 55-44. So, it looks like it will pass. The DC Council has the right to overturn the initiative and have done so in the past. Almost all Council members opposed the initiative and there is big money that would support their overturning it. So, expect a Council battle almost immediately.


Really disappointed to hear this. And regarding the Council battle, Mary Cheh will lose my support if she doesn't come around on this.


I sure hope the Council does the smart thing and overturns this silly vote by an uniformed and knee jerk public.
jsteele
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The count is now complete and the initiative passed. One interesting thing is the geographic distribution of votes. The strongest support for the initiative was in the less well off parts of town inhabited by African Americans. The strongest opposition came from the wealthiest and whitest parts of town. Rock Creek Park is essentially the dividing line with everything west opposed and everything east in favor.


Anonymous
jsteele wrote:The count is now complete and the initiative passed. One interesting thing is the geographic distribution of votes. The strongest support for the initiative was in the less well off parts of town inhabited by African Americans. The strongest opposition came from the wealthiest and whitest parts of town. Rock Creek Park is essentially the dividing line with everything west opposed and everything east in favor.




Oh well they can always cross to Virginia and eat . This race to the bottom has got to stop somewhere , somehow .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ha ha, sure. Ok.

I don’t stand to benefit from anyone or anything financially. I’m early retired and live in downtown DC. I get out quite a bit — not at high end places, btw, which isnt my thing — and I know many, many bartenders and servers. Every single one of them, many of whom are people of color are adamantly opposed to this law. I don’t know a single person in the industry who isn’t.

I also make a point of asking servers who I don’t know what they think. The last one I asked (on an inexpensive Father’s Day brunch on Florida Avenue) was an African American woman. She didn’t hesitate: “I’m against it.”

I have enough respect for the affected people to support their view. They’re not idiots who need to be “protected” by outside groups with their own agenda.


My brother works in a restaurant in DC and was told by management that employees on the clock needed to tell people that asked that they were against it. They had stickers printed that employees were required to wear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha ha, sure. Ok.

I don’t stand to benefit from anyone or anything financially. I’m early retired and live in downtown DC. I get out quite a bit — not at high end places, btw, which isnt my thing — and I know many, many bartenders and servers. Every single one of them, many of whom are people of color are adamantly opposed to this law. I don’t know a single person in the industry who isn’t.

I also make a point of asking servers who I don’t know what they think. The last one I asked (on an inexpensive Father’s Day brunch on Florida Avenue) was an African American woman. She didn’t hesitate: “I’m against it.”

I have enough respect for the affected people to support their view. They’re not idiots who need to be “protected” by outside groups with their own agenda.


My brother works in a restaurant in DC and was told by management that employees on the clock needed to tell people that asked that they were against it. They had stickers printed that employees were required to wear.


The servers I know who are against this are my actual friends -- not just restaurant workers. They're not being forced by anybody to do or say anything.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha ha, sure. Ok.

I don’t stand to benefit from anyone or anything financially. I’m early retired and live in downtown DC. I get out quite a bit — not at high end places, btw, which isnt my thing — and I know many, many bartenders and servers. Every single one of them, many of whom are people of color are adamantly opposed to this law. I don’t know a single person in the industry who isn’t.

I also make a point of asking servers who I don’t know what they think. The last one I asked (on an inexpensive Father’s Day brunch on Florida Avenue) was an African American woman. She didn’t hesitate: “I’m against it.”

I have enough respect for the affected people to support their view. They’re not idiots who need to be “protected” by outside groups with their own agenda.


My brother works in a restaurant in DC and was told by management that employees on the clock needed to tell people that asked that they were against it. They had stickers printed that employees were required to wear.


The servers I know who are against this are my actual friends -- not just restaurant workers. They're not being forced by anybody to do or say anything.



That’s fine, but I was replying to the person saying they were asking servers working that they didn’t know.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:The count is now complete and the initiative passed. One interesting thing is the geographic distribution of votes. The strongest support for the initiative was in the less well off parts of town inhabited by African Americans. The strongest opposition came from the wealthiest and whitest parts of town. Rock Creek Park is essentially the dividing line with everything west opposed and everything east in favor.




That's interesting. Brandon Todd has said he planned on voting no.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ha ha, sure. Ok.

I don’t stand to benefit from anyone or anything financially. I’m early retired and live in downtown DC. I get out quite a bit — not at high end places, btw, which isnt my thing — and I know many, many bartenders and servers. Every single one of them, many of whom are people of color are adamantly opposed to this law. I don’t know a single person in the industry who isn’t.

I also make a point of asking servers who I don’t know what they think. The last one I asked (on an inexpensive Father’s Day brunch on Florida Avenue) was an African American woman. She didn’t hesitate: “I’m against it.”

I have enough respect for the affected people to support their view. They’re not idiots who need to be “protected” by outside groups with their own agenda.


My brother works in a restaurant in DC and was told by management that employees on the clock needed to tell people that asked that they were against it. They had stickers printed that employees were required to wear.


The servers I know who are against this are my actual friends -- not just restaurant workers. They're not being forced by anybody to do or say anything.



That’s fine, but I was replying to the person saying they were asking servers working that they didn’t know.


I am that person.
Anonymous
Well now as customers we should be ready to pay more. Since most places can’t afford the full staff they might need to trim the staff. So we pay more for the food and wait longer for food to be served since there will be shortage of employees on the floor .Most people will not pay tip anymore I am sure . So my friends who are waitresses will be making $12.50 instead of $35 per hours . Restaurants will have no choice but raise the prices to come up with $12.50 per hour which until now we covered by tips .I think there should have been some new laws to go after those employers who cheated theirs emolyees out of their salary not to punish all other law abiding businesses . Nobody wins from this . Customers pay more get less service , tipped employees no longer make good money to live and work in DC .
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:The count is now complete and the initiative passed. One interesting thing is the geographic distribution of votes. The strongest support for the initiative was in the less well off parts of town inhabited by African Americans. The strongest opposition came from the wealthiest and whitest parts of town. Rock Creek Park is essentially the dividing line with everything west opposed and everything east in favor.




That's interesting. Brandon Todd has said he planned on voting no.


Most of the Council was against the initiative. The Mayor is also opposed it and Todd is her lapdog so I would expect him to be against it. Many Council members are out of sync with their constituents on this issue. Cheh supported the initiative while her constituents are the strongest opponents. Several EOTP CMs opposed it while their constituents largely supported it.
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