Very pretty, educated and successful 30-something women single or with unattractive and/or unsuccessful men?

Anonymous
Things are going according to plan for me as a late 50s man. All the 20s and 30s fat soy-boy dweebs have made it much easier for me to score with younger women.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Things are going according to plan for me as a late 50s man. All the 20s and 30s fat soy-boy dweebs have made it much easier for me to score with younger women.


And you in return will give them what exactly? We can count on you to raise a generation of children that are well cared for or is this all for your pleasure without anything in return?
Anonymous
Also why was it your plan to be in your 50's dating women the same age as your children?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My daughter hosted a gathering this weekend. She and her friends are all 30 to 35 years old. This may sound terrible but I couldn’t help but notice how many of her stunning lifelong friends were either long-term single or their male companions (husbands, fiancés, and live-in boyfriends) were optics mismatches and also, many of them didn’t seem to have a lot going on professionally. I’m not just saying this because I’ve known them for so long. My daughter’s friends are very attractive, very sporty lifestyles, most have two degrees, and they are successful professionally. I’m sorry for noticing, but most of the men they were with just were not handsome at all. Even my husband noticed and he never makes comments like that.

Is this reflective of how challenging it is out there for women my daughter’s age?


May be they are single by choice and ones who are married, picked their partners for qualities which actually matter to them, not for vanity.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:* It is statistically improbable that a majority of or all of “gathering” of women in their early to mid 30s were “stunning”.

* It is statistically improbable that your daughter’s friendship group consists of women where a majority of or all of them are “stunning”.

* It is statistically improbable that any group of women where a majority holds two degrees that many of them are “stunning”.

* It is statistically improbable that a group of women that are “stunning” will find women within the group that are long term single.

* without knowing the “successful” profession(s) in which these women find themselves in, it is unlikely (though possible) that these women are “stunning”.

* It is statistically improbable that a group of women who are “stunning find themselves paired off with chumps.

I believe you that the men that they were paired with were less masculine. Especially given that from what you have told us, this group of women is very likely left-leaning politically. People aren’t dating across political lines any more and I suspect that the guys you would find to be more conventionally masculine are on the other side of the political aisle.


Certainly improbable for median American women, but not improbable for:

Upper middle class to wealthy upbringings, high school student-athletes, selective sorority sisters, college educated, advanced degrees, spin yoga pilates runners, reside in a healthy city, good jobs, healthy eaters, low or no cigarette drug and alcohol use.


Attractive and put-together and employed as professionals, absolutely. This could describe many friend groups in DC.

Uniformly "stunning" seems very unlikely.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Things are going according to plan for me as a late 50s man. All the 20s and 30s fat soy-boy dweebs have made it much easier for me to score with younger women.


And you in return will give them what exactly? We can count on you to raise a generation of children that are well cared for or is this all for your pleasure without anything in return?


Ah yes, because women are only good for breeding. Any relationship that does not result in procreation is a sin, amirite?

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Anonymous wrote:Things are going according to plan for me as a late 50s man. All the 20s and 30s fat soy-boy dweebs have made it much easier for me to score with younger women.


And you in return will give them what exactly? We can count on you to raise a generation of children that are well cared for or is this all for your pleasure without anything in return?


Ah yes, because women are only good for breeding. Any relationship that does not result in procreation is a sin, amirite?



Yes. Especially if that isn't your long-term goal. Why should I applaud some 50 year old man being with a 20 year old he doesn't want to have a kid with? It's not good for the woman or the men her age.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m 34 and married but I would say most of the men in my age range I would actually be into if I was single are either already married or are enjoying dating and not actually ready to settle down seriously.

It can be a tough age range for women in the dating world because there are more accomplished and attractive women looking for marriage and kids at this age than men looking for the same thing. Most who wanted it already have it and those who are single aren’t in as big a rush


+1 to this post. By the time we were mid 30s, if I looked at my male high school and college classmates (same age as me), they all seemed to either have either been engaged or married for 5+ years, or they were the type that was still playing the field, dating around, travelign to a new place every weekend.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Things are going according to plan for me as a late 50s man. All the 20s and 30s fat soy-boy dweebs have made it much easier for me to score with younger women.


And you in return will give them what exactly? We can count on you to raise a generation of children that are well cared for or is this all for your pleasure without anything in return?


Ah yes, because women are only good for breeding. Any relationship that does not result in procreation is a sin, amirite?



Yes. Especially if that isn't your long-term goal. Why should I applaud some 50 year old man being with a 20 year old he doesn't want to have a kid with? It's not good for the woman or the men her age.


What’s amazing is that women in their 20s are fully capable of making their own reproductive choices, including, but not limited to, *gasp* that they don’t want to have children, and proceed accordingly. I know you folks would prefer they didn’t have that level of autonomy, but your agenda for control over women hasn’t reached that stage yet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My daughter hosted a gathering this weekend. She and her friends are all 30 to 35 years old. This may sound terrible but I couldn’t help but notice how many of her stunning lifelong friends were either long-term single or their male companions (husbands, fiancés, and live-in boyfriends) were optics mismatches and also, many of them didn’t seem to have a lot going on professionally. I’m not just saying this because I’ve known them for so long. My daughter’s friends are very attractive, very sporty lifestyles, most have two degrees, and they are successful professionally. I’m sorry for noticing, but most of the men they were with just were not handsome at all. Even my husband noticed and he never makes comments like that.

Is this reflective of how challenging it is out there for women my daughter’s age?


Maybe they have seen their friends marry losers guys?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is the future for women in DC and many other large metropolitan areas. This is very common and, frankly, accepted in DC these days. Scrubby dudes with great ladies is the norm. A guy who loves video games and is a college dropout with a half-assed job can easily bag a 9 here in DC.


I’m sorry, I don’t know if this is sarcastic. Why would so many women settle for something like this? How would a man like this even get near a successful and attractive woman? Where are the handsome successful men?


Playing video games with their friends!
Anonymous
Why are we assuming that most women are good looking, stable and successful while most men aren't?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is the future for women in DC and many other large metropolitan areas. This is very common and, frankly, accepted in DC these days. Scrubby dudes with great ladies is the norm. A guy who loves video games and is a college dropout with a half-assed job can easily bag a 9 here in DC.
Completely delusional and incorrect.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.


The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).


You could be right, but as a mid-40s divorced dad, when I was first single I dated women in their 30s until three times in a row they wanted kids right away. That's when I updated my online dating settings to include 20s. Has nothing to do with thinking I hung the moon.



So you could use a woman longer? This makes no sense. Society going downhill right from this post. All about what I can get out from a person short term.


Nobody is using anyone. People date and seek companionship for all sorts of reasons. And a woman in her 20s who openly states “I don’t want children until my 30s” knows what she’s getting into if she chooses to date an older man.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the homely duds are legends in the sack and all your DD’s friends are using them for sex


That’s not important to women. Reading through DCUM most single women who date wait 6-8 months to have sex. More likely the dudes are extremely wealthy and OP can not tell. There is no other way they would be with these attractive women. Now the real question is if the men have money what are they doing in DC? DC is known for unattractive boring men and women.
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