Very pretty, educated and successful 30-something women single or with unattractive and/or unsuccessful men?

[Anonymous]

The guys have Mr. Big and the girls are size queens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is the future for women in DC and many other large metropolitan areas. This is very common and, frankly, accepted in DC these days. Scrubby dudes with great ladies is the norm. A guy who loves video games and is a college dropout with a half-assed job can easily bag a 9 here in DC.

Nope. Not true. Not a 9. Perhaps a 7, maybe even an 8 with personal problems. But not a 9.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yawn, here we go with "the women are great and the men are mediocre" spiel. What is an optics mismatch? The reality is, with hair, makeup, and clothes, an average woman can make herself much more attractive vs. a man who has fewer tools at his disposal.

There are a lot more quality women out there than comparable men.

Bro culture, incel culture, porn, video games, Ritalin have turned men into unmarriable dopes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter hosted a gathering this weekend. She and her friends are all 30 to 35 years old. This may sound terrible but I couldn’t help but notice how many of her stunning lifelong friends were either long-term single or their male companions (husbands, fiancés, and live-in boyfriends) were optics mismatches and also, many of them didn’t seem to have a lot going on professionally. I’m not just saying this because I’ve known them for so long. My daughter’s friends are very attractive, very sporty lifestyles, most have two degrees, and they are successful professionally. I’m sorry for noticing, but most of the men they were with just were not handsome at all. Even my husband noticed and he never makes comments like that.

Is this reflective of how challenging it is out there for women my daughter’s age?

I think this may be true with the unmarried female crowd since some men of means in their 30-40 range are often looking at a somewhat different pool for their second marriage/major adult relationship. For those who married in their 20s, your observation is a little surprising (couples are usually more on par) though some people just don't age as well at different points in life.

[Anonymous]

Right OP.
The most good looking men are not into women ? Also, PP point out they go younger or are already married.

Is it typical for 30-35 year olds to be at the peak of their career? Always thought it was more like 40-45 ish.

Op, we might be watching too much TV or K drama where every actors have the best skin and perfect look.

[Anonymous]

I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

How do you know he's a loser?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

This is a very last tier 25 yo that moved in with a 40 yo dad of two. I dated 32-35 yo childless wealthy men when I was 25, and married one of those. Walked out with $5mm divorce settlement at 44 and now date the same 35 y.o. men with no kids, and for fun. I don't date men with young kids even in my own mid 40s. Life is good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

How do you know he's a loser?

Well, I've lived right next to him for over a year now, and it's been apparent many times in many ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

This is a very last tier 25 yo that moved in with a 40 yo dad of two. I dated 32-35 yo childless wealthy men when I was 25, and married one of those. Walked out with $5mm divorce settlement at 44 and now date the same 35 y.o. men with no kids, and for fun. I don't date men with young kids even in my own mid 40s. Life is good.

PP here. Yeah, I wouldn't call her a first tier 25 year old at all. She's about a 7? Before factoring in that it seems she has no job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My wife always thought all of her girlfriends from high school and college were beautiful. Which is nice. Really really nice.

But they weren’t.

Yes this was my exact thought.

Or OP is really into noticing ladies and finding them attractive...

Maybe these younger women are less superficial than you are?

[Anonymous]

My daughters are in their thirties, and I've been happy to note that they & their peers are marrying bookish guys who would have been called geeks back in the day. They're avoiding the bro types and the conventionally attractive dudes. Beauty fades. These bookish guys aren't that successful...yet. They will be.

[Anonymous]

By 30, the eligible men are married or engaged. The single guys are losers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife always thought all of her girlfriends from high school and college were beautiful. Which is nice. Really really nice.

But they weren’t.

exactly!

Women are not only inflating their look value, they are not capable of judging other women looks. According to women, Kamala Harris would be a 10 where according to men, she would be a 2.5