Great article: "Democrats are in a Bubble on Immigration"

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That's why many low-income Americans will choose Trump. They feel left out with the current favoritism of illegals by the Democrat party.


Mostly just the white ones. Non-white low income Americans by and large favor the Democrats. So, Trump support is mostly a function of being white; not being poor.


I’m not white and also not poor and am closer to Trump than to the current crop of Dems on immigration. I loathe Trump and don’t think I can bring myself to vote for him, but I might sit out the election (as a PA voter) if the Democratic candidate is too far left on immigration. And there are lots more like me.


Then you're completely gullible and have fallen for the Bannon/Miller long play to inflate immigration into a voting issue. Please, think more critically. What the Democrats are reacting to is the Trump administration's purposefully vicious acts -- arbitrarily pulling visas on the basis of religion; separating children; putting children in detention camps instead of better shelters. They did this on purpose, to get a reaction out of Democrats, so they in turn could create the specter of the "emergency at the border" and claim that the Democrats' reaction TO THEIR VICIOUSNESS constitutes being "too far left on immigration."

So please, actually look at the record of the Democratic party on immigration, as well as the candidates. Literally nobody is calling for open borders.


DP. Wow, you've really fallen hard for the propaganda of the left, haven't you? You *actually* believe the bolded. Aren't you the party who thinks you're so much better educated than everyone else? Hint: you're not - and it shows.


You need to wake up and stop with the right wing propaganda. The bolder by the pp is the truth.


What you view as “truth” is absolutely left wing propaganda. Only someone completely brainwashed would believe this administration somehow “engineered” the very real border crisis in order to “get a reaction” from Democrats. Unbelievable that you actually believe this insanity.


The difference is the reaction -- there was a surge in crossings under the Obama administration, but he reacted humanely, not by demonizing them.

And although crossings were at a comparative high in 2019, they are still at a historical low overall: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-illegal-border-crossing-20190307-story.html

Everyone engages in propaganda, but there's one side of this debate that is engaging in xenophobia-stoking propaganda, against a background of increasingly violent white nationalism world-wide. And it's not the Democrats.



Sorry, I disagree entirely with your assertion that those of us who want strict border control are somehow "xenophobic." That's just a convenient word for you to trot out when you have no other rebuttal. Countries have every right to decide who can and cannot enter - the US is no different. LEGAL, highly-skilled immigrants from all over the world make this country a great place by contributing to our economy. Period.
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We have been giving ESOL and special education to Italians, Irish and others who immigrated in big numbers in the past too.


I'm just responding to this - as a first-gen and an educator.

My family learned English ("off the boat" Italians) in night school and on their own. It was "sink or swim" through the 1960s. However, event though we formalized the process, my family didn't have the opportunity NOT to learn b/c nothing was translated for them. So they arrived poor, worked their ass*es off, and learned the language.



So you are a brown person yourself. How can you now judge the Hispanic brown people? If at all anything Italian is the closest language to Spanish.

I think any immigrants are hardworking whether they are brown immigrants from Italy or Mx, Or white immigrants from Sweden, Or black immigrants from Jamaica.


Italians are not considered brown, and not all of us have olive complexions.

I am not judging; I am stating facts. My family didn't have it easy coming over. Once they arrived, they did everything they could to retain their culture w/in the home (and among their family and friends), but outside of the home, they were proud Americans.

You see - there came a point when building resilience and resourcefulness in people was replaced by enabling. I see it in the school system. We have created a Me Me nation where many are expecting handouts. You don't build people up by giving them everything.

Enter through legal avenues.
Learn English.
Work your a** off.
Be a role model for your kids.

Not all people are the same. I have had many students - majority Hispanic and African - who agree with me. When you enter a new country, you bend for the country, as it's providing you opportunities you supposedly didn't have in your country of birth, right? b/c if life was so good back home, why leave?

My family escaped poverty. My father barely had a home; it was crumbling. Christmas gits consisted of winter fruits. When he was alive, he had fond memories of Italy despite the obstacles that faced him, but he was proud of his accomplishments in the U. S. (Mom was luckier in that she was a "middle class" Italian, but the family knew that they could move ahead in the States.)

So the neo-libs can preach it all they want! You don't speak for all of us. And that assumption that we're all the same will be a negative force in 2020.

Italians were considered brown and were racially targeted by whites a hundred years ago. many still consider Italians brown. Italians are often confused with Syrians, Turks, Persians and even Indians. Now, would you call Persian or Indian white? But they are white.

You see what I am driving at, race is a social construct. A hundred years ago Italians weren’t considered white but today they are. What has changed? Just the social acceptance. The same Applies for Hispanics. Brown is the new white.

The immigrant blue collar Hispanics are struggling just like your uneducated, blue collar parents. Many work very hard and prosper. Some won’t. But that’s like any people. So they are no different than your Italian parents. But what you are not giving is the same benefit of the doubt you readily give your parents. Why not?



We are NO LONGER considered brown.

So yes, I know my history. Yes, my father, uncle and grandfathers were not served food in diners after a hard day's work b/c they were too brown. I am not brown. I am a light-skinned Southern Italian. I check off the white box. And my father checked off the white box, too, despite his dark complexion, as there's no box for olive-complected, Italian-American.

I just want to make that clear.

Regarding the "benefit of the doubt" comment, I don't give anyone any slack. If my poor father could make it here, learn English, start up multiple businesses, and love the United States - all w/o translation services and social programs - then why can't others do the same?

You see - when you start to lower your standards for people, you create learned helplessness. My mother came here young. She was thrown into a public school classroom with no ESOL accommodations. She sat there, smiled and was polite. She worked her way through school and ended up with a government job. no college education, just a high school diploma and secretarial school

She helped her own parents learn English. However, despite my grandfather's rusty English, he had a business that was thriving.

You apparently wish to box all people under one category. Not all immigrants believe in handouts. Not all immigrants wish to be helpless.

So if I sound like a horrible person to you, so be it. We have to agree to disagree.

But I'll leave you with this: How can you explain how so many immigrants in past generations "made it" MINUS all the resources available to immigrants of today? You don't put enough faith in the human spirit, my friend.


Bingo. The culture of low expectations in all its glory.
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Anonymous wrote:what happens others who want to come here, but just can't simply cross the border? is it fair to them?

The whole rhetoric behind democrats is that they want minority VOTES!!! They have no real solutions to anything, so in order to stay in power they need these votes. It is simple as that, however, as a minority i don't buy into their bs.


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Anonymous wrote:what happens others who want to come here, but just can't simply cross the border? is it fair to them?

The whole rhetoric behind democrats is that they want minority VOTES!!! They have no real solutions to anything, so in order to stay in power they need these votes. It is simple as that, however, as a minority i don't buy into their bs.


I don't care so much about the votes. I just tend to like the foreigners I meet better than the rural white people I meet. The latter tend to be so shrill. And their food is usually pretty terrible.


Perhaps you'd be happier in a country with fewer "rural white people"? What's stopping you from leaving?
-DP
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Do you even have a college degree? if you have, you better get a refund. Gang wars have been happening throughout human history. White supremacy gangs, Italian mafia, Russian gangs, black gangs, Hispanic hangs etc etc.

America is a country of 330 milllion, what happens in small school is not representative of the country. That’s why data makes sense, not anecdotes. Data suggests what you are describing is an exception and not the rule. You have no credibility because you are trying hard to extrapolate and exception case into a everyday rule case. It’s not gonna work, fortunately there are enough educated Americans.


Actually it did already work when Trump was elected, you know. You are still blind to the anger people feel when someone "educated" tells them their individual situation is irrelevant, the pain they feel is irrelevant, their personal struggles are irrelevant because "big global trends" show something different.


+1 million

I don't care what your 'data' says. When my standard of living is being lowered due to illegal immigration, it becomes an issue for me. And, many like me. Educated and not.

+2,000,000


Yes yes yes.


How is your standard of living being lowered "due to illegal immigration." I would actual facts and examples, please. Not talking points.


Have you been conveniently skipping posts that have already laid out these facts and examples? Too painful for you to hear about the overcrowded schools full of kids who don't speak English, whose needs come before kids of American citizens? How about the neighborhoods with multiple families of illegal immigrants crowding into houses and lowering the value of said neighborhoods? Shall I continue? If you can't keep up with the thread, perhaps you should simply do some googling of your own.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey look, Border agents are a bunch of racist, violent, sexist shitbags.

"In one exchange, group members responded with indifference and wisecracks to the post of a news story about a 16-year-old Guatemalan migrant who died in May while in custody at a Border Patrol station in Weslaco, Texas. One member posted a GIF of Elmo with the quote, “Oh well.” Another responded with an image and the words “If he dies, he dies.”"

https://www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post-sexist-memes


"ProPublica"?? Seriously?? And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.
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Anonymous wrote:“They use LESS in public benefits than native born americans. https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-rese...ate-immigrant-native-use-rate“

Again - that is not exactly what that study says. It is looking at individuals and federal level only. It counts the kids of illegal parents as native born because they are and it does not count local/state school spending. Spending by the government at all levels on households with illegal parents is what the real issue is in terms of outlays.


Oh, so now public school educations provided to US CITIZENS is a "hand out"? Did your Italian relatives not go to school at all in the US? The native-born children of immigrants contribute the MOST to fed & state coffers, so it's absurd to claim that educating them is a "hand-out."

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/what-do-immigrants-cost-state-and-local-governments



I do believe we're talking about the NON-NATIVE children of illegal immigrants, dolt. Who are themselves, illegal immigrants. Try and keep up.
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That's why many low-income Americans will choose Trump. They feel left out with the current favoritism of illegals by the Democrat party.


Mostly just the white ones. Non-white low income Americans by and large favor the Democrats. So, Trump support is mostly a function of being white; not being poor.


I’m not white and also not poor and am closer to Trump than to the current crop of Dems on immigration. I loathe Trump and don’t think I can bring myself to vote for him, but I might sit out the election (as a PA voter) if the Democratic candidate is too far left on immigration. And there are lots more like me.


Then you're completely gullible and have fallen for the Bannon/Miller long play to inflate immigration into a voting issue. Please, think more critically. What the Democrats are reacting to is the Trump administration's purposefully vicious acts -- arbitrarily pulling visas on the basis of religion; separating children; putting children in detention camps instead of better shelters. They did this on purpose, to get a reaction out of Democrats, so they in turn could create the specter of the "emergency at the border" and claim that the Democrats' reaction TO THEIR VICIOUSNESS constitutes being "too far left on immigration."

So please, actually look at the record of the Democratic party on immigration, as well as the candidates. Literally nobody is calling for open borders.


DP. Wow, you've really fallen hard for the propaganda of the left, haven't you? You *actually* believe the bolded. Aren't you the party who thinks you're so much better educated than everyone else? Hint: you're not - and it shows.


You need to wake up and stop with the right wing propaganda. The bolder by the pp is the truth.


What you view as “truth” is absolutely left wing propaganda. Only someone completely brainwashed would believe this administration somehow “engineered” the very real border crisis in order to “get a reaction” from Democrats. Unbelievable that you actually believe this insanity.


The difference is the reaction -- there was a surge in crossings under the Obama administration, but he reacted humanely, not by demonizing them.

And although crossings were at a comparative high in 2019, they are still at a historical low overall: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-illegal-border-crossing-20190307-story.html

Everyone engages in propaganda, but there's one side of this debate that is engaging in xenophobia-stoking propaganda, against a background of increasingly violent white nationalism world-wide. And it's not the Democrats.



Sorry, I disagree entirely with your assertion that those of us who want strict border control are somehow "xenophobic." That's just a convenient word for you to trot out when you have no other rebuttal. Countries have every right to decide who can and cannot enter - the US is no different. LEGAL, highly-skilled immigrants from all over the world make this country a great place by contributing to our economy. Period.


Why...are...you...so...dense? It is possible to want immigration reform AND, at the same time, to want those trying to enter this country to be treated humanely, because they are HUMAN-F'ING BEINGS!

People call you "xenophobic", because you demonize desperate people.

Moron.

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Anonymous wrote:what happens others who want to come here, but just can't simply cross the border? is it fair to them?

The whole rhetoric behind democrats is that they want minority VOTES!!! They have no real solutions to anything, so in order to stay in power they need these votes. It is simple as that, however, as a minority i don't buy into their bs.


I don't care so much about the votes. I just tend to like the foreigners I meet better than the rural white people I meet. The latter tend to be so shrill. And their food is usually pretty terrible.


Perhaps you'd be happier in a country with fewer "rural white people"? What's stopping you from leaving?
-DP


Get bent. This is my country and those diabetic, Rascal-riding Trump supporters are ruining it.
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That's why many low-income Americans will choose Trump. They feel left out with the current favoritism of illegals by the Democrat party.


Mostly just the white ones. Non-white low income Americans by and large favor the Democrats. So, Trump support is mostly a function of being white; not being poor.


I’m not white and also not poor and am closer to Trump than to the current crop of Dems on immigration. I loathe Trump and don’t think I can bring myself to vote for him, but I might sit out the election (as a PA voter) if the Democratic candidate is too far left on immigration. And there are lots more like me.


Then you're completely gullible and have fallen for the Bannon/Miller long play to inflate immigration into a voting issue. Please, think more critically. What the Democrats are reacting to is the Trump administration's purposefully vicious acts -- arbitrarily pulling visas on the basis of religion; separating children; putting children in detention camps instead of better shelters. They did this on purpose, to get a reaction out of Democrats, so they in turn could create the specter of the "emergency at the border" and claim that the Democrats' reaction TO THEIR VICIOUSNESS constitutes being "too far left on immigration."

So please, actually look at the record of the Democratic party on immigration, as well as the candidates. Literally nobody is calling for open borders.


DP. Wow, you've really fallen hard for the propaganda of the left, haven't you? You *actually* believe the bolded. Aren't you the party who thinks you're so much better educated than everyone else? Hint: you're not - and it shows.


You need to wake up and stop with the right wing propaganda. The bolder by the pp is the truth.


What you view as “truth” is absolutely left wing propaganda. Only someone completely brainwashed would believe this administration somehow “engineered” the very real border crisis in order to “get a reaction” from Democrats. Unbelievable that you actually believe this insanity.


The difference is the reaction -- there was a surge in crossings under the Obama administration, but he reacted humanely, not by demonizing them.

And although crossings were at a comparative high in 2019, they are still at a historical low overall: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-illegal-border-crossing-20190307-story.html

Everyone engages in propaganda, but there's one side of this debate that is engaging in xenophobia-stoking propaganda, against a background of increasingly violent white nationalism world-wide. And it's not the Democrats.



Sorry, I disagree entirely with your assertion that those of us who want strict border control are somehow "xenophobic." That's just a convenient word for you to trot out when you have no other rebuttal. Countries have every right to decide who can and cannot enter - the US is no different. LEGAL, highly-skilled immigrants from all over the world make this country a great place by contributing to our economy. Period.


well, you're not demonstrating great reading skills. NOBODY, not a single candidate of any party, is arguing for open borders. try again.
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We have been giving ESOL and special education to Italians, Irish and others who immigrated in big numbers in the past too.


I'm just responding to this - as a first-gen and an educator.

My family learned English ("off the boat" Italians) in night school and on their own. It was "sink or swim" through the 1960s. However, event though we formalized the process, my family didn't have the opportunity NOT to learn b/c nothing was translated for them. So they arrived poor, worked their ass*es off, and learned the language.



So you are a brown person yourself. How can you now judge the Hispanic brown people? If at all anything Italian is the closest language to Spanish.

I think any immigrants are hardworking whether they are brown immigrants from Italy or Mx, Or white immigrants from Sweden, Or black immigrants from Jamaica.


Italians are not considered brown, and not all of us have olive complexions.

I am not judging; I am stating facts. My family didn't have it easy coming over. Once they arrived, they did everything they could to retain their culture w/in the home (and among their family and friends), but outside of the home, they were proud Americans.

You see - there came a point when building resilience and resourcefulness in people was replaced by enabling. I see it in the school system. We have created a Me Me nation where many are expecting handouts. You don't build people up by giving them everything.

Enter through legal avenues.
Learn English.
Work your a** off.
Be a role model for your kids.

Not all people are the same. I have had many students - majority Hispanic and African - who agree with me. When you enter a new country, you bend for the country, as it's providing you opportunities you supposedly didn't have in your country of birth, right? b/c if life was so good back home, why leave?

My family escaped poverty. My father barely had a home; it was crumbling. Christmas gits consisted of winter fruits. When he was alive, he had fond memories of Italy despite the obstacles that faced him, but he was proud of his accomplishments in the U. S. (Mom was luckier in that she was a "middle class" Italian, but the family knew that they could move ahead in the States.)

So the neo-libs can preach it all they want! You don't speak for all of us. And that assumption that we're all the same will be a negative force in 2020.


How were your parents able to immigrate?


Dad and my grandfather worked. They saved money, hopped on a boat & came through Ellis Island. They rented an apartment in PG County and worked as stonemasons. When they saved up enough money, they brought the others over - grandmother, aunts & uncle. My father & uncle served in WWII.

Eventually, their business grew and they parted ways, each opening up his own business.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

They helped each other and bc they were honest & talented, their businesses grew.


Immigration doesn’t work that way anymore.


really?

It worked that way for my nanny (El Salvador). It worked that way for my friend's husband (Italy). . . for my neighbor (Russia) . . . for my niece's boyfriend (Ireland)

No one says it's an easy process, and based on what little I know, it could be simplified. But again, if there's a will, there's a way.


Really, so all they had to do was find the resources to get themselves to the U.S. border and then they were allowed in? Because that’s exactly what’s happening at our southern border, people are finding the resources to make it to the border, except they’re not being allowed in.

What you described is essentially how our immigration system used to work, and it is how an awful lot of our ancestors got here - if you could afford the ticket, you were in. But the system has fundamentally changed now, and the majority of people who immigrated 100 years ago would not be allowed into the country today.
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Anonymous wrote:what happens others who want to come here, but just can't simply cross the border? is it fair to them?

The whole rhetoric behind democrats is that they want minority VOTES!!! They have no real solutions to anything, so in order to stay in power they need these votes. It is simple as that, however, as a minority i don't buy into their bs.


I don't care so much about the votes. I just tend to like the foreigners I meet better than the rural white people I meet. The latter tend to be so shrill. And their food is usually pretty terrible.


Perhaps you'd be happier in a country with fewer "rural white people"? What's stopping you from leaving?
-DP

Perhaps there aren’t any other countries to which pp qualifies to immigrate.
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Anonymous wrote:“They use LESS in public benefits than native born americans. https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-rese...ate-immigrant-native-use-rate“

Again - that is not exactly what that study says. It is looking at individuals and federal level only. It counts the kids of illegal parents as native born because they are and it does not count local/state school spending. Spending by the government at all levels on households with illegal parents is what the real issue is in terms of outlays.


Oh, so now public school educations provided to US CITIZENS is a "hand out"? Did your Italian relatives not go to school at all in the US? The native-born children of immigrants contribute the MOST to fed & state coffers, so it's absurd to claim that educating them is a "hand-out."

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/what-do-immigrants-cost-state-and-local-governments



I do believe we're talking about the NON-NATIVE children of illegal immigrants, dolt. Who are themselves, illegal immigrants. Try and keep up.
-DP


Try again. The Tax Policy Center article does not distinguish between US citizen children and immigrant children, but it can be inferred that many of the kids were US citizens.

The Cato piece finds that immimgrants consume fewer benefits than native-born citizens. The native-born children of immigrants (1st gen) consumer a proportionally higher share of benefits -- but referring back to the Tax Policy piece, they contribute MORE to the economy comparatively than 2nd gen and beyond. "With respect to government finances, the National Academies’ report shows that the adult children of immigrants contribute the most on average to federal and state and local coffers. "

Finally, do you really want to end up like Japan, with an aging population and a culture so xenophobic that now that they are scrambling to get more immigrants, it's not working? Even if we instituted a rational LEGAL immigration program that met the actual labor needs of our country, a lot of the immigration would be low-wage workers, who would need public benefits. I don't see legal/illegal as the dividing line between the use of public benefits here.
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That's why many low-income Americans will choose Trump. They feel left out with the current favoritism of illegals by the Democrat party.


Mostly just the white ones. Non-white low income Americans by and large favor the Democrats. So, Trump support is mostly a function of being white; not being poor.


I’m not white and also not poor and am closer to Trump than to the current crop of Dems on immigration. I loathe Trump and don’t think I can bring myself to vote for him, but I might sit out the election (as a PA voter) if the Democratic candidate is too far left on immigration. And there are lots more like me.


Then you're completely gullible and have fallen for the Bannon/Miller long play to inflate immigration into a voting issue. Please, think more critically. What the Democrats are reacting to is the Trump administration's purposefully vicious acts -- arbitrarily pulling visas on the basis of religion; separating children; putting children in detention camps instead of better shelters. They did this on purpose, to get a reaction out of Democrats, so they in turn could create the specter of the "emergency at the border" and claim that the Democrats' reaction TO THEIR VICIOUSNESS constitutes being "too far left on immigration."

So please, actually look at the record of the Democratic party on immigration, as well as the candidates. Literally nobody is calling for open borders.


DP. Wow, you've really fallen hard for the propaganda of the left, haven't you? You *actually* believe the bolded. Aren't you the party who thinks you're so much better educated than everyone else? Hint: you're not - and it shows.


You need to wake up and stop with the right wing propaganda. The bolder by the pp is the truth.


What you view as “truth” is absolutely left wing propaganda. Only someone completely brainwashed would believe this administration somehow “engineered” the very real border crisis in order to “get a reaction” from Democrats. Unbelievable that you actually believe this insanity.


The difference is the reaction -- there was a surge in crossings under the Obama administration, but he reacted humanely, not by demonizing them.

And although crossings were at a comparative high in 2019, they are still at a historical low overall: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-illegal-border-crossing-20190307-story.html

Everyone engages in propaganda, but there's one side of this debate that is engaging in xenophobia-stoking propaganda, against a background of increasingly violent white nationalism world-wide. And it's not the Democrats.



Sorry, I disagree entirely with your assertion that those of us who want strict border control are somehow "xenophobic." That's just a convenient word for you to trot out when you have no other rebuttal. Countries have every right to decide who can and cannot enter - the US is no different. LEGAL, highly-skilled immigrants from all over the world make this country a great place by contributing to our economy. Period.


well, you're not demonstrating great reading skills. NOBODY, not a single candidate of any party, is arguing for open borders. try again.


Which candidate supports ICE complying with the deportation orders for criminals that have already been issued by judges once rendered years after an illegal entry? Which candidate supports ICE doing its job after people cross the border? Not one which is effectively open borders.

A woman drinks from a toilet and AOC losses her sh*t as people in multiple cities are stepping in human sh*t. Privilege.


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Anonymous wrote:Hey look, Border agents are a bunch of racist, violent, sexist shitbags.

"In one exchange, group members responded with indifference and wisecracks to the post of a news story about a 16-year-old Guatemalan migrant who died in May while in custody at a Border Patrol station in Weslaco, Texas. One member posted a GIF of Elmo with the quote, “Oh well.” Another responded with an image and the words “If he dies, he dies.”"

https://www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post-sexist-memes


"ProPublica"?? Seriously?? And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.


Lol. This story is being reported by every single media outfit.
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