Sport Fair Winter Classic
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Anonymous
100%! Just looking at one event (50 back) in 9-10 girls, York, Makos, and OCCS all have 9-10 girls who are as fast as girls on NCAP and RMSC. York has the two fastest 9-10 girls in all of PVS by miles. (We swim at NCAP, but huge props to York. If we lived closer, I might change to York. They look like they are a true team.) |
Anonymous
To be fair though, using the 200 free example, you can final at Winter Classic with a time that wouldn’t qualify to swim at NCI, let alone make finals. |
Anonymous
No one is arguing that NCI is a much faster meet. No one is saying that all WC swimmers would make NCI. People are twisting words to make sure everyone knows NCI is a faster meet. Right on cue when the subject comes up. We get it. We got it before all this too. I was reacting to one post that said WC exists for the not fast kids. And “to be fair though”, I pointed out that it’s not a backup meet for NCI, as the participating clubs are different at each meet and that there are several WC swimmers that do make NCI. That’s it, that’s all I was getting at. Let’s move on. |
Anonymous
I just looked at the 9-10 girls 50 back and there is a York girl in 1st, NCAP 2nd, a York girl in 3rd who will be 11 in a month, and then a bunch of RMSC swimmers. I’m not seeing the domination you’re describing by York. The do have a great current 10 year old girl, but she is 1 month from being middle of the road as an 11-12. You would expect a 10 month 11 year old swimmer to be at the top of the 9-10 group. |
Anonymous
lol I meant 10 years, 11 months. |
Anonymous
Clearly you’re really defensive about this, but there were posters saying that “most” Winter Classic swimmers would qualify for NCI, and I don’t think that’s true just by virtue of the fact that there aren’t time standards for most events at Winter Classic. I do understand that not every team is invited to NCI or RMSC Holiday Invitational, so you will have some fast swimmers at Winter Classic who will dominate that meet and could final at NCI, but there’s a pretty steep drop off from the 8th place finisher at NCI and the 8th place finisher at Winter Classic. |
Anonymous
NP here and we are from one of those clubs who doesn't get invited to NCI. Last year, we sent swimmers to the Winter Classic that had Sectionals, Futures, and JNats cuts. So, it's definitely not accurate to say there aren't fast kids at this meet. We are thankful the Marlins host this meet for other clubs as our swimmers have a lot of fun participating each year. |
Anonymous
I think the three York swimmers (9-10 girls) would win have a chance to win all NCI events, so I was agreeing that other teams have swimmers who easily could compete, and even win, events at NCI. |
Anonymous
Which post said “most”? I must not see it. Which post implied the NCI-qualifying swimmers at WC would final at NCI? I must not see those either. I probably am defensive and I apologize. But this forum has several threads where people smugly rush to announce that NCI is faster than WC, even though no one is saying it’s not. Of course it is! I’m just tired of parents that have superiority complexes because their kid is faster than other people’s and love to put down other people because of something they themselves aren’t even accomplishing. Btw, I have a nationally-ranked swimmer in multiple events, so this isn’t sour grapes. They dont attend either meet. |
Anonymous
There are posts saying “plenty” of WC swimmers have NCI cuts, any kid that finals at WC has NCI cuts, and lots of WC kids have NCI cuts. I think those statements are a little overblown. |
Anonymous
I have a nationally ranked swimmer as well and they won't be attending the Winter Classic, NCI, Winter Juniors, or the US Open, even though they have cuts for all of those meets. Instead, they will be attending the IMX meet our club is hosting at the end of December! |
Anonymous
If you look at the 9-10 girls rankings there is a pretty even mix of York, RMSC and NCAP swimmers across the various events in PVS. Once you focus on events longer than a 50 the NCAP and RMSC swimmers take over. |
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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[b]I think it’s pretty concerning that a grown-up is calling a talented swimmer “middle of the road” when they age up. I actually know this girl, and she’s not only an incredible athlete but also a team player with natural leadership abilities. Let’s not tarnish the confidence of young kids who are working so hard to excel. Instead, we should be encouraging and celebrating their successes, regardless of where they fall within an age group.
I just looked at the 9-10 girls 50 back and there is a York girl in 1st, NCAP 2nd, a York girl in 3rd who will be 11 in a month, and then a bunch of RMSC swimmers. I’m not seeing the domination you’re describing by York. The do have a great current 10 year old girl, but she is 1 month from being middle of the road as an 11-12. You would expect a 10 month 11 year old swimmer to be at the top of the 9-10 group. lol I meant 10 years, 11 months. [i][/b] [b] I think it’s pretty concerning that a grown-up is calling a talented swimmer “middle of the road” when they age up. I actually know this girl, and she’s not only an incredible athlete but also a team player with natural leadership abilities. Let’s not tarnish the confidence of young kids who are working so hard to excel. Instead, we should be encouraging and celebrating their successes, regardless of where they fall within an age group. |
Anonymous
lol I meant 10 years, 11 months. [i][/b] [b] I think it’s pretty concerning that a grown-up is calling a talented swimmer “middle of the road” when they age up. I actually know this girl, and she’s not only an incredible athlete but also a team player with natural leadership abilities. Let’s not tarnish the confidence of young kids who are working so hard to excel. Instead, we should be encouraging and celebrating their successes, regardless of where they fall within an age group. 🩷 |