Sport Fair Winter Classic
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Anonymous
York has #1 and #5 in 500 Free; #2 and #3 in 200 IM; #1, #2, and #5 in 100 Back; #2 and #9 in 100 Breast; #1 and #10 in 200 Free; #1 and #13 in 100 Fly; #1 and #6 in 100 Free |
Anonymous
Nobody said there were 4,000 swimmers at winter classic. There were’t 5,000 at NCI; you’d have to host at Byrd stadium. 4,000 was a comparison to the ~5,000 of NCI, to add perspective to the comment that winter classic is a really small meet. |
Anonymous
If you go back and look at the exchange with that poster that is exactly what they were saying. Someone explained to them the difference between entrants and entries and then they dropped the number to 4,000 after initially claiming it was like 7,000. Then they tried saying they got their number from the timelines. |
Anonymous
lol I meant 10 years, 11 months. [i][/b] [b] I think it’s pretty concerning that a grown-up is calling a talented swimmer “middle of the road” when they age up. I actually know this girl, and she’s not only an incredible athlete but also a team player with natural leadership abilities. Let’s not tarnish the confidence of young kids who are working so hard to excel. Instead, we should be encouraging and celebrating their successes, regardless of where they fall within an age group. Ummm you know that’s how swim works, right, especially for girls moving from 9-10 to 11-12. You are king of the hill when you are about to age up and then you go back to fighting just to make JO cuts. It’s not a personal slight, it’s literally how the sport works for all but the top 1% of swimmers. This is also why parents shouldn’t get so invested in how fast their 9-10 year old is and how they are ranked #1 in all their events, because a few months later they have to work their way back up again and in an age group where puberty is a big factor. |
Anonymous
By the way YORK has literally always has good 10&Unders so where are their girls ranked in 13-14 and 15&Over categories right now? If they aren’t high then sorry they aren’t a good team (unless you only want success at 10) |
Anonymous
They're with NCAP. NCAP develops tons of great swimmers. NCAP also is the recipient of tons of great swimmers that defect from other clubs. The PVS 9-year-old swimmer of the year last year- York, switched to NCAP. At Swim & Rock this weekend there were multiple York JO winners swimming with NCAP. |
Anonymous
A lot of them move to NCAP. |
Anonymous
[i][/b] [b] I think it’s pretty concerning that a grown-up is calling a talented swimmer “middle of the road” when they age up. I actually know this girl, and she’s not only an incredible athlete but also a team player with natural leadership abilities. Let’s not tarnish the confidence of young kids who are working so hard to excel. Instead, we should be encouraging and celebrating their successes, regardless of where they fall within an age group. 🩷 I’m with you here. Especially because the kids are usually so nice to each other, regardless of club. I’ve always been impressed at the bigger meets. The York discussion caught my eye because my introverted kid (swims elsewhere) has had some really positive interactions with their swimmers, even at bigger meets, even when they’re all nervous. It speaks well of their vibe and leadership. |
Anonymous
| The Mako Olympic Trial swimmer switch confused me: I get needing the cohort to train, but it does say something that she got there with them and that training cohort. Makos have some other rockstar younger kids, so they must be doing something right, its a shame to lose them after all that when they hit high school age. |
Anonymous
I do not know that swimmer’s situation but I would imagine being a Trials qualifier at 14 she was swimming up in training, meaning her cohort was older, and perhaps she felt she had already maxed out what she could get with Makos by training up and wanted to train with kids her age that could push her. |
Anonymous
This. If you are a talented swimmer (Olympic Trial at 14) and swimming with the 17 and 18 year olds, you have different training goals and programs. Even though she is fast, she is swimming mileage not appropriate at her age and the training would be different. Put that 14 year old with a bunch of fast 14 year olds she could train more appropriately and in theory make better improvements. And even socially it would be better. |
Anonymous
This is true, many of them do. Many wish they could stay with York, but pool limitations means that a talented kid is forced to swim mornings at age 13. The higher performance groups are at 4:30 or 5:00 am. It's unfortunate. Many parents and swimmers want to avoid mornings at such a young age, so switch to NCAP Marymount, where they can continue afternoons/evenings through age 14 at least. |
Anonymous
Her cohort were the older kids, which will be aging out and she will not have any peers to train with - even with Makos being a big club. If you look at some of the clubs they have a strong 13-14 year old (or two) and those kids will train with the senior group, which is not ideal for a few reasons. It is around then that they either stay where they are and slowly lose a fast cohort or find an age appropriate cohort. NCAP has the swimmers. So swimmers will jump for the good coaching but really the cohort. Nation's Capital Swim Club 1720 Rockville Montgomery Swim Club 1455 Machine Aquatics 976 York Swim Club 515 Potomac Marlins 470 Mason Makos Swim Team 423 Arlington Aquatic Club 417 The Capitol Sea Devils 368 All Star Aquatics 282 |
Anonymous
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Typical DCUM saying that it is not appropriate for a 14 year-old OLYMPIC TRIALS QUALIFIER to be swimming with senior kids and should be swimming with other 13-14 year olds.
You guys really think Summer Macintosh was swimming with other 13-14 year olds when she placed 4th in Tokyo Olympics in the 400 Free? No she was doing yardage AND clearly she has still gotten significantly better since then. |
Anonymous
Also NP but if every good kid needs to switch teams you don’t have a good team, however a girls Olympic Trials qualifier switching is a totally different situation. She needs higher level training partners which she will get with the NCAP boys (which are way better than Mako boys) |