My husband is very stupid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You married him for a reason...probably precisely because you are aggressive and didn't want to be challenged.

If you can't rely on him, then outsource whatever you can.

Uh, he married HER for a reason, not because she's aggressive, but because he needed her. Get real.

You are seeing anger in this post because she has reached her limit. In the future, this will likely result in health matters she will develop from having to be ON EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE all the time.
My only input here is that it is not stupidity, it is personality and or something like ADD, or Spectrum (ASD). There are so many women who are married to literal rocket scientists or engineers and live like this. It takes a toll.

Ask me how I know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I cold die right now. I asked my husband to turn off the water to the fridge. He said that he did it. I see more leaking, then I went to the basement and find that the valve is partly turned off. It wasn't done, wooden floor and cabinets ruined. All I can assume is stupid or spiteful. Either way, I don't want sex with him ever.

You really shouldn't be speaking this way about your spouse. The words we choose will speak hate and death into our lives, or can speak life an hope. You and your husband are a family and a team, and you would do well to start having conversations with him about these things and not telling strangers on here in ways that put another person down. None of us are perfect examples of humanity. And none of us are in a position to judge others honestly and fully. Your children are going to form relationships based on the examples they see, and the most prominent is yourself and your husband.

Where I work, in a technical environment, failures like this dont end up in firing someone, its "attention to detail training" that is required. He is going to respond much better when you engage and challenge him men are problem solvers generally by nature. Guess what....you may have to do some leadership development.

There's just so much pessimism. If he is not abusive, adulterous, mentally ill, or some other genuinely disqualifying factor, its in everybodys best interest that you give him the benefit of the doubt, and that can start with thoughts and words that speak hope and life into the situation, and not wrath and impatience.

I wish you blessings and peace.

Funny how you decide what is abuse. Abuse isn't always yelling. These women are experiencing abuse.

[Anonymous]

Someone tried just above but the message didn't get through so I'll shout it: THIS THREAD IS SIX YEARS OLD. IT IS FROM 2018. I have no idea how people dig up and resurrect these very old threads. Got a spouse who has issues? Please start a new thread.

Though I'd like to hear if that OP did divorce. The kid is old enough now to be OK with a dad who can't feed them or dose their vital meds accurately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These posts are disgusting. The anger at your spouses is so toxic. Get divorced and stop putting all your anger on your spouse.

Where are they supposed to vent? Why can't the spouse step up?
So much misogyny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

The suggestions in this thread are killing what little hope I have. They all boil down to re-raising this man-child and sending him to therapy/treatment while I continue to slave, in the hopes he may be remotely useful one day. And that is even assuming I can convince him he needs help. All of this is a huge ask and not feasible in our current lives.

I know the “right” thing to say here is that I am going to spend what little free time I have helping him get better, but I can’t do this. I cannot parent this helpless adult. I have carried him for almost a decade now and am out of patience and love. I am angry and tired and wish I had never met him. It is simply not fair to ask women (who would ask this of a man?) to take on so much.

I have about 5 years to go until DD is old enough to take care of herself in a shared custody scenario. In the meantime, I am ready to give up on him and cheat to get by.

This right here is the kicker. I'm sorry, OP. I know you got a lot of hate on this thread, but I understand. My husband isn't as incapable as yours, but there are times when I think that if I died, my daughter would suffer so badly in his care. Virtual hugs from someone who gets it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, today, I asked my husband to de clutter the car. To take everything out so that the cleaners would be able to do a good job. What does he do? Nothing. After he was done, I removed three armfuls of my kids' stuff. This, by the way, is the car that he uses. He asked where that came from, I told him from behind the seat. He is either dumb, or tries to act dumb, either way, I am just fed up. However, I recon that the other men out there come with their own messed up issues.

Yikes.

I have the same examples, daily fro my ADHD husband. He'll say "I'll tidy the kitchen, you put the kids to bed".
20 mins later I'll come downstairs and the counters/tables have crumbs, jam, opened mail, packaging, dry pans not away, etc. I'll ask what happened here, why watching TV when kitchen is a mess on all surface areas. He'll say "he washed some dishes from dinner."

It's like he literally DOES NOT SEE things in the house, and he certainly does not hear anyone well. That's ADHD, possibly in conjunction with having no common sense, being lazy, having a Mom who did everything for him/his brother/his father, etc.

We are constantly doing two steps FW, 1-2 steps backwards with him in the house. I struggle with what to do next as well. I don't think I can take the 18 years of child-rearing with someone making more messes and setbacks for the family. And if something every happened to me, the cards would all fall down.

Yep. The day I gave up was the day he said he was going to clean the kitchen and then, afterwards, invited me in to admire it. There was a quart of milk right in the middle of the counter and crumbs everywhere (we already have ant and mice problems for this reason). I praised him and didn’t point out the milk. But from thereon in, I realized that even his best wasn’t going to get the job done and, if I cared about it, I was going to have to do it. It’s exhausting.

I think the laziness is a form of compensation. They know they won’t ace a job, so they don’t even start it. It’s sad, seen from that perspective.

What adult homeowner doesn't care about crumbs all over the kitchen and milk going bad on the counter? Seriously.

My fn husband. New to the thread, but this is my husband. He makes more mess than our two kids and just doesn’t seem to be able to see it. I’m just so done. He was not like this in early dating/marriage, but when we had kids it all went to sh*t. He drops food on the floor and just leaves it, makes bagels on the counter and just leaves the mess, I honestly don’t think it actually registers with him. If I point it out and ask him to clean up after himself, he says he will but he doesn’t and acts like he did. It is seriously perplexing.

The power of a pig!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I cold die right now. I asked my husband to turn off the water to the fridge. He said that he did it. I see more leaking, then I went to the basement and find that the valve is partly turned off. It wasn't done, wooden floor and cabinets ruined. All I can assume is stupid or spiteful. Either way, I don't want sex with him ever.

Huh.

How do we raise our sons to not be such idiots?!

Where can I find tech ed class? Mechanis class? Camping and cleaning scouts? Common sense anything class?
I’m trying but with the lack of male role models I’m getting worried.

[Anonymous]

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Someone tried just above but the message didn't get through so I'll shout it: THIS THREAD IS SIX YEARS OLD. IT IS FROM 2018. I have no idea how people dig up and resurrect these very old threads. Got a spouse who has issues? Please start a new thread.

Though I'd like to hear if that OP did divorce. The kid is old enough now to be OK with a dad who can't feed them or dose their vital meds accurately.

This 2018 thread is helpful because it dovetails to yesterday’s thread on “unorganized and defunct” adhd and asd spouses.

They shouldn’t marry and they def shouldnt have kids.

Just divorce when you can come up for air. Y’all are drowning by him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Someone tried just above but the message didn't get through so I'll shout it: THIS THREAD IS SIX YEARS OLD. IT IS FROM 2018. I have no idea how people dig up and resurrect these very old threads. Got a spouse who has issues? Please start a new thread.

Though I'd like to hear if that OP did divorce. The kid is old enough now to be OK with a dad who can't feed them or dose their vital meds accurately.

This 2018 thread is helpful because it dovetails to yesterday’s thread on “unorganized and defunct” adhd and asd spouses.

They shouldn’t marry and they def shouldnt have kids.

Just divorce when you can come up for air. Y’all are drowning by him.

The OP of this thread couldn't divorce for a least five years (a time whicih now has passed) because she didn't want her DH to have any custody, since he was incapable of dosing their child's medication correctly (if at all). He couldn't even remember to feed their child. I really feel terrible for parents who are stuck in marriages they want to leave, and need to leave for their own sanity, but who are staying put because the other parent would genuinely endanger children's health and safety if they were in that parent's solo care, even for a short time. It's insane.

And judges will NOT care if a spouse has "documented" all the times the other parent forgot to feed the kid, forgot to give medicine, forgot to pick up at preschool, etc. etc. No one should rely on the idea that any judge will listen to those complaints and give the higher-functioning parent sole physical custody. People here who say, just divorce, have no real idea how judges are simply not going to hand over full custody to the parent who wants it---even if the other parent is utterly useless with caring for the child. Even abusive parents are not always denied custody.

[Anonymous]

OP you BOTH are stupid. That is why you married. Like attracts like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you BOTH are stupid. That is why you married. Like attracts like.

Studies show dysfunctional narcissism or disordered men purposeful love bomb to attract high performing empaths who make up for their own deficits in executive and life functioning.

Train your kids to stay away from dating or marrying these deficits mates.

Word is out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you BOTH are stupid. That is why you married. Like attracts like.

It never ceases to amaze me how there are people on this forum who always, always blame the spouse who is actually a functioning adult: "Well, you married him/her, so you should have known, so it's your fault!" This happens in every thread where any OP dares to point out almost any issue with the spouse. "You're to blame for marrying them in the first place!"

These posters utterly cannot comprehend how (1) many people are excellent at covering up their real problems and deficits while dating, and presenting a "best" version of themselves to their prospective spouse, and (2) many people cope OK, or even cope well, when they are single and newly married and early in their careers--but once there are children, a home to manage, more career pressure/harder position, etc., they cannot cope, and that true self emerges. Or more accurately, that true self retreats from children, home, relationship, and saves the energy and focus for the job.

It's real, people. A person can marry someone who seems to function perfectly normally at the time they marry and for years afterward, too. Until what most of us consider normal life changes--positive changes, like kids--come along. And then the balance is upset and that person's deficits take over.

The whole "It's your fault, you married them, you knew" or "you should have known" is such profoundly hurtful and insulting crap. Yes, sometimes people DO ignore red flags, for certain. But the "you should have known" crowd have no idea how well people can cover up their issues, and how quickly things can fall apart when more responsibility means they have to give a sh*t about things like kids and a home.

[Anonymous]

Their parents cover for their adult mentally disordered sons took
Yet they’re the ones with a divorced son who explodes on everyone, just like he did all of childhood whilst they stood there not getting him professional help, and now have no relationship with their grandchildren, who are also derailing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

The suggestions in this thread are killing what little hope I have. They all boil down to re-raising this man-child and sending him to therapy/treatment while I continue to slave, in the hopes he may be remotely useful one day. And that is even assuming I can convince him he needs help. All of this is a huge ask and not feasible in our current lives.

I know the “right” thing to say here is that I am going to spend what little free time I have helping him get better, but I can’t do this. I cannot parent this helpless adult. I have carried him for almost a decade now and am out of patience and love. I am angry and tired and wish I had never met him. It is simply not fair to ask women (who would ask this of a man?) to take on so much.

I have about 5 years to go until DD is old enough to take care of herself in a shared custody scenario. In the meantime, I am ready to give up on him and cheat to get by.

Cheating is another task to be managed. If he isn’t creating problems just raise your kid and let him coexist alongside you two. Stop trying to co-parent or ask his opinion just do the shit that needs doing and he can amble along behind you and get in where he fits in.

[Anonymous]

You are not a very nice person OP. Feel bad for your daughter being raised in this environment. Your husband is being emotionally abused if you are this disdainful of him in life. Yikes.