Frustrated with husband and mother in law

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

I hope your nanny backs out on you last minute because now she’s uncomfortable. When nothing has changed in the agreement. And I hope it costs you lots of money in lost wages. I’m sure you’ll smile and say “oh a caregiver can back out at any time if they feel unable to care for the child”.

^^Is that you, OP? Hasn't Karma taught you a lesson recently? Do you still want to do this? Really? Really?

Your argument is tired. There is no Karma. OP did nothing. Wrong.
It’s OK for her to be upset MIL backed out at the last minute. She’s not forcing her to do anything. She’s venting on a message board and that is ok. Some of you are miserable.

Yes, she did something wrong. She forced MIL into accepting this task. Karma came back to her as MIL withdrawing at the last minute.

She is infact angry with her DH for not forcing the MIL. OP is a disgusting POS.

I'm guessing you never took a debate class because you are terrible at it. So, the OP doesn't bow to the pressure of all these inarticulate anti-posters so you resort to name calling? Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

I hope your nanny backs out on you last minute because now she’s uncomfortable. When nothing has changed in the agreement. And I hope it costs you lots of money in lost wages. I’m sure you’ll smile and say “oh a caregiver can back out at any time if they feel unable to care for the child”.

SMH. You are a nasty person.

Nope. The nasty people are the ones attacking OP. It was a simple turn if the tables. There is NO WAY all the people posting here wouldn’t be upset to be without childcare on short notice.

Upset? Sure. But in a “oh man that stinks” kind of way. Because at the end of the day, my husband and I are responsible for our kids. So when life happens—a babysitter doesn’t show up, daycare closes for COVID, the neighbor who was going to watch our kids gets sick—you suck it up and deal. You don’t get mad at your husband for not putting pressure on a CLEARLY UNRELIABLE PERSON to suddenly…what, magically become a reliable person? You don’t pout and whine. You pivot. And you get on with your day.

Her dh is leaving her to fix the problem created by his mother. She’s got a right to be upset. Any other post on this board everyone would chime in with “you have a dh problem” for his lack of communication with his parent.
She’s pivoting. She’s replanned her trip. You guys are like rabid dogs with the pile on.

It’s a work trip, dummy. So yeah, DH needs to go. OP *wanted* to go. See the difference?

What is up with your annoying “see the difference?”. It makes you sound dumb, like you might be on school summer break.

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

I hope your nanny backs out on you last minute because now she’s uncomfortable. When nothing has changed in the agreement. And I hope it costs you lots of money in lost wages. I’m sure you’ll smile and say “oh a caregiver can back out at any time if they feel unable to care for the child”.

SMH. You are a nasty person.

Nope. The nasty people are the ones attacking OP. It was a simple turn if the tables. There is NO WAY all the people posting here wouldn’t be upset to be without childcare on short notice.

Upset? Sure. But in a “oh man that stinks” kind of way. Because at the end of the day, my husband and I are responsible for our kids. So when life happens—a babysitter doesn’t show up, daycare closes for COVID, the neighbor who was going to watch our kids gets sick—you suck it up and deal. You don’t get mad at your husband for not putting pressure on a CLEARLY UNRELIABLE PERSON to suddenly…what, magically become a reliable person? You don’t pout and whine. You pivot. And you get on with your day.

Her dh is leaving her to fix the problem created by his mother. She’s got a right to be upset. Any other post on this board everyone would chime in with “you have a dh problem” for his lack of communication with his parent.
She’s pivoting. She’s replanned her trip. You guys are like rabid dogs with the pile on.

She said it was a work trip for her DH. He's working. Why does she need to tag along instead of taking care of the kids?

Because she wants to. And presumably her husband wanted her along. What is wrong with you?

Wrong with me? Who will watch the children while OP galavants around?

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

I hope your nanny backs out on you last minute because now she’s uncomfortable. When nothing has changed in the agreement. And I hope it costs you lots of money in lost wages. I’m sure you’ll smile and say “oh a caregiver can back out at any time if they feel unable to care for the child”.

NP. If my nanny backed out of an agreement because she was uncomfortable (I’ll go slow so you can follow along):
I
Would
Know
Something
Wasn’t
Right
With
Her

And I would be grateful that she spoke up and didn’t try to force herself into childcare she couldn’t handle.

Sometimes
Nothing
Is
Wrong
And
People
Are
Just
Flakes.

I don’t leave my kids with flaky people. Do you?

Would be lovely if flaky people came labeled, but unfortunately they don’t. It takes experience. And it’s harder when it’s your in laws because there are more dynamics at play. I’d venture a guess that some camp counselor or teacher my child has had could be labeled flaky. Maybe you can pre screen for moral competency/lack of flakiness immediately. Most people can’t.

There are screenings for teachers, daycare workers, lifeguards, camp counselors, etc. Those screenings are called job interviews and references.

When you rely on family members, neighbors or friends, you open the door to a bit of flakiness. But here’s what: better to have someone reveal they are unreliable BEFORE the parents leave for an international trip than during said trip. And if you can’t agree with me on that, don’t bother replying, because we have very different values when it comes to the safety, security and care of our children.

Of course I agree with that. I also believe that there will be consequences to her relationship with her MIL. OP is annoyed and that’s to be expected. They won’t plan to leave the kids with her again. Literally no one has disagreed that it’s better MIL backed out now. For some reason you feel the need to repeat it over and over.

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

I hope your nanny backs out on you last minute because now she’s uncomfortable. When nothing has changed in the agreement. And I hope it costs you lots of money in lost wages. I’m sure you’ll smile and say “oh a caregiver can back out at any time if they feel unable to care for the child”.

SMH. You are a nasty person.

Nope. The nasty people are the ones attacking OP. It was a simple turn if the tables. There is NO WAY all the people posting here wouldn’t be upset to be without childcare on short notice.

Upset? Sure. But in a “oh man that stinks” kind of way. Because at the end of the day, my husband and I are responsible for our kids. So when life happens—a babysitter doesn’t show up, daycare closes for COVID, the neighbor who was going to watch our kids gets sick—you suck it up and deal. You don’t get mad at your husband for not putting pressure on a CLEARLY UNRELIABLE PERSON to suddenly…what, magically become a reliable person? You don’t pout and whine. You pivot. And you get on with your day.

Her dh is leaving her to fix the problem created by his mother. She’s got a right to be upset. Any other post on this board everyone would chime in with “you have a dh problem” for his lack of communication with his parent.
She’s pivoting. She’s replanned her trip. You guys are like rabid dogs with the pile on.

She said it was a work trip for her DH. He's working. Why does she need to tag along instead of taking care of the kids?

Because she wants to. And presumably her husband wanted her along. What is wrong with you?

Wrong with me? Who will watch the children while OP galavants around?

If you actually read instead of just arguing, it sounds like OP will be galavanting with her kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I am mildly Team OP, but 12 days is really a ton of time away from a 4 and 6 year old. I wouldn’t do it, even though OP clearly made careful arrangements to make sure the kids had fun activities and MIL was not overburdened. MIL is ridiculous for canceling 3 days before the trip. That’s just awful.

The thing I find most shocking about this situation is that OP and her DH were going to pay the MIL for babysitting. I’ve never heard of that, and I grew up lower income and am now UMC. Is that actually a common thing? No grandparent I know would accept money for watching grandkids, though it’s very common for kids to either have parents move in with them or to pay for assisted living costs. I found it jarring that OP’s DH thought this plan was good because it was a money making opportunity for his mom.

Why is that jarring?
His mom doesn’t work and she lives off social security. It’s a personal decision to do so, not health related. She’s in her early 60’s. We will definitely be taking care of her in retirement and old age due to no savings and we help but it’s just one way she can also make money for travel, etc. We pay for a lot of her travel to visit family but we also have our own expenses and can’t pay for everything she wants.

Why would you expect a 61 yr old not accustomed to working and living of SS (??) would be able to suddenly have the stamina and energy to be in charge of two young kids for 2 weeks? And where your own parents why aren't they jumping at this opportunity of a life time?

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

I hope your nanny backs out on you last minute because now she’s uncomfortable. When nothing has changed in the agreement. And I hope it costs you lots of money in lost wages. I’m sure you’ll smile and say “oh a caregiver can back out at any time if they feel unable to care for the child”.

SMH. You are a nasty person.

Nope. The nasty people are the ones attacking OP. It was a simple turn if the tables. There is NO WAY all the people posting here wouldn’t be upset to be without childcare on short notice.

Upset? Sure. But in a “oh man that stinks” kind of way. Because at the end of the day, my husband and I are responsible for our kids. So when life happens—a babysitter doesn’t show up, daycare closes for COVID, the neighbor who was going to watch our kids gets sick—you suck it up and deal. You don’t get mad at your husband for not putting pressure on a CLEARLY UNRELIABLE PERSON to suddenly…what, magically become a reliable person? You don’t pout and whine. You pivot. And you get on with your day.

Her dh is leaving her to fix the problem created by his mother. She’s got a right to be upset. Any other post on this board everyone would chime in with “you have a dh problem” for his lack of communication with his parent.
She’s pivoting. She’s replanned her trip. You guys are like rabid dogs with the pile on.

She said it was a work trip for her DH. He's working. Why does she need to tag along instead of taking care of the kids?

Because she wants to. And presumably her husband wanted her along. What is wrong with you?

Wrong with me? Who will watch the children while OP galavants around?

If you actually read instead of just arguing, it sounds like OP will be galavanting with her kids.

No, make this miserably trudging at the injustice of having to be with her own kids.

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

I hope your nanny backs out on you last minute because now she’s uncomfortable. When nothing has changed in the agreement. And I hope it costs you lots of money in lost wages. I’m sure you’ll smile and say “oh a caregiver can back out at any time if they feel unable to care for the child”.

SMH. You are a nasty person.

Nope. The nasty people are the ones attacking OP. It was a simple turn if the tables. There is NO WAY all the people posting here wouldn’t be upset to be without childcare on short notice.

Upset? Sure. But in a “oh man that stinks” kind of way. Because at the end of the day, my husband and I are responsible for our kids. So when life happens—a babysitter doesn’t show up, daycare closes for COVID, the neighbor who was going to watch our kids gets sick—you suck it up and deal. You don’t get mad at your husband for not putting pressure on a CLEARLY UNRELIABLE PERSON to suddenly…what, magically become a reliable person? You don’t pout and whine. You pivot. And you get on with your day.

Her dh is leaving her to fix the problem created by his mother. She’s got a right to be upset. Any other post on this board everyone would chime in with “you have a dh problem” for his lack of communication with his parent.
She’s pivoting. She’s replanned her trip. You guys are like rabid dogs with the pile on.

She said it was a work trip for her DH. He's working. Why does she need to tag along instead of taking care of the kids?

Because she wants to. And presumably her husband wanted her along. What is wrong with you?

I get that she wants to. It truly is a shame that this happened. But what? She’s expecting DH to try to browbeat a clearly unwilling and unreliable MIL into taking her kids for 12 days while she and DH go out of the country? That’s what we’re supposed to be rooting for here? That DH can shame his flaky, anxious, unreliable, overwhelmed mother into taking OP’s kids for 12 days while they leave the country? Oh gee what could possibly go wrong?

Just like I wanted to go with DH to a wedding, and we had childcare lined up, and my aunt got COVID. That was too bad. But…OK, you know? Like what, I was supposed to tell my aunt not to be sick? DH and I were supposed to take the kids with us even though the kids weren’t invited? We dealt with it. Sometimes you don’t get what you want. Life doesn’t go the way you want sometimes. My Kindergartener seems to grasp this, so I am hoping you and OP can learn this valuable life lesson as well.

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Anonymous wrote:The reason she decided she changed her mind was because she stayed to watch our dog when we were away for a night as a family and my husband messed up the tv remote control and it started from “I’m
not watching the kids anymore” because she was upset about the remote and it turned into “I’m not doing this for you anymore”. I’m fine with whatever she decide: and now we are taking the kids but don’t get upset about something and change your mind a few days before the trip because it costs us big time.

Uh huh.

Surrreeeeee, this “fact” is revealed pages and pages and days later when you see the tide turned against you.

LOL. I don’t engage with liars, so bye, OP.

Right? Ridiculous. All of a sudden it's about a TV remote? Oh, and she says the kids are going with them, when a few pages back she said she canceled the trip. Do we just assume troll at this point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

I hope your nanny backs out on you last minute because now she’s uncomfortable. When nothing has changed in the agreement. And I hope it costs you lots of money in lost wages. I’m sure you’ll smile and say “oh a caregiver can back out at any time if they feel unable to care for the child”.

NP. If my nanny backed out of an agreement because she was uncomfortable (I’ll go slow so you can follow along):
I
Would
Know
Something
Wasn’t
Right
With
Her

And I would be grateful that she spoke up and didn’t try to force herself into childcare she couldn’t handle.

Sometimes
Nothing
Is
Wrong
And
People
Are
Just
Flakes.

I don’t leave my kids with flaky people. Do you?

Would be lovely if flaky people came labeled, but unfortunately they don’t. It takes experience. And it’s harder when it’s your in laws because there are more dynamics at play. I’d venture a guess that some camp counselor or teacher my child has had could be labeled flaky. Maybe you can pre screen for moral competency/lack of flakiness immediately. Most people can’t.

There are screenings for teachers, daycare workers, lifeguards, camp counselors, etc. Those screenings are called job interviews and references.

When you rely on family members, neighbors or friends, you open the door to a bit of flakiness. But here’s what: better to have someone reveal they are unreliable BEFORE the parents leave for an international trip than during said trip. And if you can’t agree with me on that, don’t bother replying, because we have very different values when it comes to the safety, security and care of our children.

Of course I agree with that. I also believe that there will be consequences to her relationship with her MIL. OP is annoyed and that’s to be expected. They won’t plan to leave the kids with her again. Literally no one has disagreed that it’s better MIL backed out now. For some reason you feel the need to repeat it over and over.

And of course I agree with you that the natural consequence here is that OP is entitled to feel annoyed and that the relationship will take a hit. But here’s what you seem unwilling to admit: OP literally said on page 1, when asked why she was frustrated with her husband, “Because he won’t even try to reason with her.”

Like, you can’t “reason” an unreliable person into being a reliable caregiver. You really support OP in wanting her husband to “reason” his mother into taking this on when she has said directly that she cannot do it? For some reason you need to defend OP over and over in that she’s expecting her husband to browbeat an unwilling elderly woman into being a reliable caregiver during a 12-day international trip.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reason she decided she changed her mind was because she stayed to watch our dog when we were away for a night as a family and my husband messed up the tv remote control and it started from “I’m
not watching the kids anymore” because she was upset about the remote and it turned into “I’m not doing this for you anymore”. I’m fine with whatever she decide: and now we are taking the kids but don’t get upset about something and change your mind a few days before the trip because it costs us big time.

Uh huh.

Surrreeeeee, this “fact” is revealed pages and pages and days later when you see the tide turned against you.

LOL. I don’t engage with liars, so bye, OP.

Right? Ridiculous. All of a sudden it's about a TV remote? Oh, and she says the kids are going with them, when a few pages back she said she canceled the trip. Do we just assume troll at this point?

Agreed. That and MIL is 61 but oh wait she gets Social Security benefits she wouldn’t be eligible for until age 61.

Three strikes and you are out. OP is a troll, don’t feed her any further.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reason she decided she changed her mind was because she stayed to watch our dog when we were away for a night as a family and my husband messed up the tv remote control and it started from “I’m
not watching the kids anymore” because she was upset about the remote and it turned into “I’m not doing this for you anymore”. I’m fine with whatever she decide: and now we are taking the kids but don’t get upset about something and change your mind a few days before the trip because it costs us big time.

Uh huh.

Surrreeeeee, this “fact” is revealed pages and pages and days later when you see the tide turned against you.

LOL. I don’t engage with liars, so bye, OP.

Right? Ridiculous. All of a sudden it's about a TV remote? Oh, and she says the kids are going with them, when a few pages back she said she canceled the trip. Do we just assume troll at this point?

I assume troll. The troll posts always have an over the top MIL hater and some very aggressive pro-OP sockpuppeting going on. As the thread drags on the details change or start to not add up. A healthy 61 yr old on social security? Sure.....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

Which we did, and are taking them.
But I’m allowed to be disappointed that she and my husband communicated about this and it was not planned well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reason she decided she changed her mind was because she stayed to watch our dog when we were away for a night as a family and my husband messed up the tv remote control and it started from “I’m
not watching the kids anymore” because she was upset about the remote and it turned into “I’m not doing this for you anymore”. I’m fine with whatever she decide: and now we are taking the kids but don’t get upset about something and change your mind a few days before the trip because it costs us big time.

Uh huh.

Surrreeeeee, this “fact” is revealed pages and pages and days later when you see the tide turned against you.

LOL. I don’t engage with liars, so bye, OP.

Right? Ridiculous. All of a sudden it's about a TV remote? Oh, and she says the kids are going with them, when a few pages back she said she canceled the trip. Do we just assume troll at this point?

Agreed. That and MIL is 61 but oh wait she gets Social Security benefits she wouldn’t be eligible for until age 61.

Three strikes and you are out. OP is a troll, don’t feed her any further.

She chooses not to work and is on SS. She’s in perfect health.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just live in a very different community and culture than most of you. Most of our friends send their kids to summer camp for 2 weeks a summer at age 7, most families go away childless for a week, grandparents are involved in many families lives... I just can’t relate to a lot of what is being said here.

The child’s grandmother is very close to my children and involved in their life. It’s good for kids to spend time with grandparents. Don’t take something good and make it into something evil.

Yes, healthy and confident and comfortable grandparents are excellent caregivers. So are camp counselors, youth group trip leaders, etc. No one is saying kids should be with their parents at all times.

What we ARE saying is that if any caregiver—a grandparent, an aunt, a cousin, a camp counselor—express inability to care for a child at any time for any reason, you listen and you make other arrangements.

Argue with that. Go on, argue with that. I’d love to hear it.

Which we did, and are taking them.
But I’m allowed to be disappointed that she and my husband communicated about this and it was not planned well.

Oh honey, you said you canceled. Now you’re taking them. And this came out of nowhere…but oh wait it was over a remote control argument. And she’s 61 and not eligible for Social Security. Troll harder next time.