Private School Lacrosse Thread

[Anonymous]

This thread is a great read. If you're concerned about pressure on your child, why are you signing them up for an "A" level club? For prestige or bragging rights?

Most parents know going into this what to expect. It is similar to high school sports. Kids get cut, other kids ride the bench and the best X number of kids take the field. Not sure how that is construed as too much pressure. There is a point where participation trophies have to end. High school is as good a demarcation as any.

[Anonymous]

I actually agree with the premise of what the "Parent of a A teamer" is saying and disgree with poster who thinks these kids are "missing out." The type of kid who is at the very top of their sport in middle school and high school, and ailming for DI, is a very specific kind of kid. This is what they want. Not doing this is what would cause them to feel they were missing out.

I have a kid who has her sights dead set on playing DI lacrosse. She started out at a young age playing scoopers and rec and loved it and was really talented. She has kept moving steadily along. The few bumps here and there seem to just make her more driven and focused. She plays on the top team for her age, in the top program. She grinds renlentlessly, as another poster called it, and she loves it. She drives it all, not us, her parents, or her coaches. She lives for every lacrosse practice, game, camp and clinic she can get to. She is on the bounce back most days even if just "for fun" and she runs and works out and watches what she eats (she eats a lot but very healthy). Its not just for tryouts, like other kids do, it is year round. All the time. You may find it myopic but its what she wants. It makes her happy

She does still participate in other sports and activities but more casually. She works hard in school too and gets good grades. As far as a social life, for her sports are social. For her that seems to mostly be enough, at least for now. I urge her to do more socially, to hang with friends. She isn't interested. She does takes her down time seriously though and loves to completely veg out when everything else is done

I know other parents who think their kid should be on the best team but arent. I've been asked many times "how do I get my kid on X team?" When I tell them what DD does to be at that level, their eyes get wide. They usually dont want to invest a fraction of the time and energy we give to her, and yes, a kid that driven needs parents who are willing to support them with time and energy, and not a little money.

Talents is one thing, and you have to have it, but as kids age, in order to stay at the top, talent has to be matched with hard work and the person has to want it for herself/himself. To tell this kind of a kid he or she is "missing out" means you just dont respect who the kid is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually agree with the premise of what the "Parent of a A teamer" is saying and disgree with poster who thinks these kids are "missing out." The type of kid who is at the very top of their sport in middle school and high school, and ailming for DI, is a very specific kind of kid. This is what they want. Not doing this is what would cause them to feel they were missing out.

I have a kid who has her sights dead set on playing DI lacrosse. She started out at a young age playing scoopers and rec and loved it and was really talented. She has kept moving steadily along. The few bumps here and there seem to just make her more driven and focused. She plays on the top team for her age, in the top program. She grinds renlentlessly, as another poster called it, and she loves it. She drives it all, not us, her parents, or her coaches. She lives for every lacrosse practice, game, camp and clinic she can get to. She is on the bounce back most days even if just "for fun" and she runs and works out and watches what she eats (she eats a lot but very healthy). Its not just for tryouts, like other kids do, it is year round. All the time. You may find it myopic but its what she wants. It makes her happy

She does still participate in other sports and activities but more casually. She works hard in school too and gets good grades. As far as a social life, for her sports are social. For her that seems to mostly be enough, at least for now. I urge her to do more socially, to hang with friends. She isn't interested. She does takes her down time seriously though and loves to completely veg out when everything else is done

I know other parents who think their kid should be on the best team but arent. I've been asked many times "how do I get my kid on X team?" When I tell them what DD does to be at that level, their eyes get wide. They usually dont want to invest a fraction of the time and energy we give to her, and yes, a kid that driven needs parents who are willing to support them with time and energy, and not a little money.

Talents is one thing, and you have to have it, but as kids age, in order to stay at the top, talent has to be matched with hard work and the person has to want it for herself/himself. To tell this kind of a kid he or she is "missing out" means you just dont respect who the kid is.

This is 100% accurate. Describes a lot of the kids in many different sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually agree with the premise of what the "Parent of a A teamer" is saying and disgree with poster who thinks these kids are "missing out." The type of kid who is at the very top of their sport in middle school and high school, and ailming for DI, is a very specific kind of kid. This is what they want. Not doing this is what would cause them to feel they were missing out.

I have a kid who has her sights dead set on playing DI lacrosse. She started out at a young age playing scoopers and rec and loved it and was really talented. She has kept moving steadily along. The few bumps here and there seem to just make her more driven and focused. She plays on the top team for her age, in the top program. She grinds renlentlessly, as another poster called it, and she loves it. She drives it all, not us, her parents, or her coaches. She lives for every lacrosse practice, game, camp and clinic she can get to. She is on the bounce back most days even if just "for fun" and she runs and works out and watches what she eats (she eats a lot but very healthy). Its not just for tryouts, like other kids do, it is year round. All the time. You may find it myopic but its what she wants. It makes her happy

She does still participate in other sports and activities but more casually. She works hard in school too and gets good grades. As far as a social life, for her sports are social. For her that seems to mostly be enough, at least for now. I urge her to do more socially, to hang with friends. She isn't interested. She does takes her down time seriously though and loves to completely veg out when everything else is done

I know other parents who think their kid should be on the best team but arent. I've been asked many times "how do I get my kid on X team?" When I tell them what DD does to be at that level, their eyes get wide. They usually dont want to invest a fraction of the time and energy we give to her, and yes, a kid that driven needs parents who are willing to support them with time and energy, and not a little money.

Talents is one thing, and you have to have it, but as kids age, in order to stay at the top, talent has to be matched with hard work and the person has to want it for herself/himself. To tell this kind of a kid he or she is "missing out" means you just dont respect who the kid is.

This is 100% accurate. Describes a lot of the kids in many different sports.

Lots of respect for these kinds of kids. But if you could see inside their sub-conscious, for about 85% of them, their drive is really to please their mom and/or dad. I know several of these kids--one close family member--and as adults, they can admit to themselves for whom they were really doing it. As I said, I do respect that commitment and hard work--it's unbelievable (and with 2 full-time working parents, we would never be able to support that), but what is the end game, really? As a former D1 player, I can tell you, the only only thing I have as a result of that is the ability to stand on the sidelines and tell everybody, oh yeah, I played at so-and-so. Big picture: nobody cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually agree with the premise of what the "Parent of a A teamer" is saying and disgree with poster who thinks these kids are "missing out." The type of kid who is at the very top of their sport in middle school and high school, and ailming for DI, is a very specific kind of kid. This is what they want. Not doing this is what would cause them to feel they were missing out.

I have a kid who has her sights dead set on playing DI lacrosse. She started out at a young age playing scoopers and rec and loved it and was really talented. She has kept moving steadily along. The few bumps here and there seem to just make her more driven and focused. She plays on the top team for her age, in the top program. She grinds renlentlessly, as another poster called it, and she loves it. She drives it all, not us, her parents, or her coaches. She lives for every lacrosse practice, game, camp and clinic she can get to. She is on the bounce back most days even if just "for fun" and she runs and works out and watches what she eats (she eats a lot but very healthy). Its not just for tryouts, like other kids do, it is year round. All the time. You may find it myopic but its what she wants. It makes her happy

She does still participate in other sports and activities but more casually. She works hard in school too and gets good grades. As far as a social life, for her sports are social. For her that seems to mostly be enough, at least for now. I urge her to do more socially, to hang with friends. She isn't interested. She does takes her down time seriously though and loves to completely veg out when everything else is done

I know other parents who think their kid should be on the best team but arent. I've been asked many times "how do I get my kid on X team?" When I tell them what DD does to be at that level, their eyes get wide. They usually dont want to invest a fraction of the time and energy we give to her, and yes, a kid that driven needs parents who are willing to support them with time and energy, and not a little money.

Talents is one thing, and you have to have it, but as kids age, in order to stay at the top, talent has to be matched with hard work and the person has to want it for herself/himself. To tell this kind of a kid he or she is "missing out" means you just dont respect who the kid is.

This is 100% accurate. Describes a lot of the kids in many different sports.

Lots of respect for these kinds of kids. But if you could see inside their sub-conscious, for about 85% of them, their drive is really to please their mom and/or dad. I know several of these kids--one close family member--and as adults, they can admit to themselves for whom they were really doing it. As I said, I do respect that commitment and hard work--it's unbelievable (and with 2 full-time working parents, we would never be able to support that), but what is the end game, really? As a former D1 player, I can tell you, the only only thing I have as a result of that is the ability to stand on the sidelines and tell everybody, oh yeah, I played at so-and-so. Big picture: nobody cares.

For some people just playing is the end in itself. There's no bigger picture. It's just fun to play a game well even if nobody cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think I am married to PP. Woe is me.

Oh.

I'm pretty sure I know 15 of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually agree with the premise of what the "Parent of a A teamer" is saying and disgree with poster who thinks these kids are "missing out." The type of kid who is at the very top of their sport in middle school and high school, and ailming for DI, is a very specific kind of kid. This is what they want. Not doing this is what would cause them to feel they were missing out.

I have a kid who has her sights dead set on playing DI lacrosse. She started out at a young age playing scoopers and rec and loved it and was really talented. She has kept moving steadily along. The few bumps here and there seem to just make her more driven and focused. She plays on the top team for her age, in the top program. She grinds renlentlessly, as another poster called it, and she loves it. She drives it all, not us, her parents, or her coaches. She lives for every lacrosse practice, game, camp and clinic she can get to. She is on the bounce back most days even if just "for fun" and she runs and works out and watches what she eats (she eats a lot but very healthy). Its not just for tryouts, like other kids do, it is year round. All the time. You may find it myopic but its what she wants. It makes her happy

She does still participate in other sports and activities but more casually. She works hard in school too and gets good grades. As far as a social life, for her sports are social. For her that seems to mostly be enough, at least for now. I urge her to do more socially, to hang with friends. She isn't interested. She does takes her down time seriously though and loves to completely veg out when everything else is done

I know other parents who think their kid should be on the best team but arent. I've been asked many times "how do I get my kid on X team?" When I tell them what DD does to be at that level, their eyes get wide. They usually dont want to invest a fraction of the time and energy we give to her, and yes, a kid that driven needs parents who are willing to support them with time and energy, and not a little money.

Talents is one thing, and you have to have it, but as kids age, in order to stay at the top, talent has to be matched with hard work and the person has to want it for herself/himself. To tell this kind of a kid he or she is "missing out" means you just dont respect who the kid is.

This is 100% accurate. Describes a lot of the kids in many different sports.

Lots of respect for these kinds of kids. But if you could see inside their sub-conscious, for about 85% of them, their drive is really to please their mom and/or dad. I know several of these kids--one close family member--and as adults, they can admit to themselves for whom they were really doing it. As I said, I do respect that commitment and hard work--it's unbelievable (and with 2 full-time working parents, we would never be able to support that), but what is the end game, really? As a former D1 player, I can tell you, the only only thing I have as a result of that is the ability to stand on the sidelines and tell everybody, oh yeah, I played at so-and-so. Big picture: nobody cares.

NP. I think you are projecting, PP. Since our kids are not playing D1, it didn't matter financially to us anyway, but it makes a huge difference in our kids' quality of life and their general level of happiness that they are competing and playing on their college teams. FWIW, our kids don't care that you, PP, don't care that they play a sport in college. Our kids only care that they get to play a sport in college. In fact, that was the criteria that they established for themselves and when push came to shove each of our three chose a school where they were recruited to play their sport over a school where they would not.

[Anonymous]

RIP DC Express 2021. Team has split up for about 4 other clubs. No wonder so many DCE B kids were called up and many kids from marginal clubs like 3d made the team. Sad but predictable result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RIP DC Express 2021. Team has split up for about 4 other clubs. No wonder so many DCE B kids were called up and many kids from marginal clubs like 3d made the team. Sad but predictable result.

Which clubs?

[Anonymous]

Anyone know how the Madlax Girls tryouts went?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Thanks for another reminder on why I will not send my kids to Bullis. Not interested in paying 35k a year only to be tossed aside junior/senior year by these transfers. Many of whom arent pay tuition. And don't start with the he can't hack the competition argument. You really don't know how good these transfer kids are. Prince Charming effect.



LOL. First of all, you have no idea how much tuition assistance a family gets (not is it any of your business). But because Bullis brings in many African-American, OF COURSE they are on scholarship, right?

And the same thing happens at Prep and other schools, especially with football and basketball. Kids get recruited over at every IAC and WCAC school. Get over yourself.


The competition argument is at the center of the whole issue. While I can understand the frustration, the reality is the we're talking about some of the best schools that play lacrosse in the country. The coaches are paid to win and build that legacy. Part of that calculus is putting the best 10 players on the field you can play.

No coach in their right mind would say no to the #1 attackman in his class to join his team. Sorry, not going to happen at Bullis or Landon or Prep, etc. etc. Same will be said up the college ranks and into the pros. That's why players get traded, transfer, etc. Not pretty, but that is reality.

These kids are not falling in Bullis lap by chance. Its a well known fact Bullis actively pursued the kid from Charlottesville. Believe me, my son plays in the same club program as their coaching staff approached several other kids to transfer in as juniors. And don't give me that crap these coaches are paid to win and build that legacy, its HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE, this is not High school football in Texas.

The latest transfer from last week really makes you question the integrity of the school.

[Anonymous]

Not all kids need to spend hours on the bounce back, shooting, etc. My kid is playing d1 ball, and I could never get him to do any of that - it wasn't fun for him, so he didn't do it. Instead, he played a lot of basketball, football, and soccer. In the end, he earned a spot on a team for his defensive and transition skills, most of which he developed playing other sports, not hitting a bounce back in the backyard.

[Anonymous]

Coaches are not approaching players to transfer. The players are becoming more like basketball players, looking for their best opportunity to play at the highest level with the best players and coaches. Anyone who thinks coaches are actively pursue transfers is incorrect. The players are the ones that are looking for a change. With that said, I am pretty confident once a player has contacted a coach, that coach will help with the process with the Admissions Dept.
What I do know is that the player from STAB in Virginia, contacted Landon, McDonogh, and Bullis. Knowing that Bullis lost one of the best players in the DMV, he knew there was an opening at the same position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Thanks for another reminder on why I will not send my kids to Bullis. Not interested in paying 35k a year only to be tossed aside junior/senior year by these transfers. Many of whom arent pay tuition. And don't start with the he can't hack the competition argument. You really don't know how good these transfer kids are. Prince Charming effect.



LOL. First of all, you have no idea how much tuition assistance a family gets (not is it any of your business). But because Bullis brings in many African-American, OF COURSE they are on scholarship, right?

And the same thing happens at Prep and other schools, especially with football and basketball. Kids get recruited over at every IAC and WCAC school. Get over yourself.


The competition argument is at the center of the whole issue. While I can understand the frustration, the reality is the we're talking about some of the best schools that play lacrosse in the country. The coaches are paid to win and build that legacy. Part of that calculus is putting the best 10 players on the field you can play.

No coach in their right mind would say no to the #1 attackman in his class to join his team. Sorry, not going to happen at Bullis or Landon or Prep, etc. etc. Same will be said up the college ranks and into the pros. That's why players get traded, transfer, etc. Not pretty, but that is reality.

These kids are not falling in Bullis lap by chance. Its a well known fact Bullis actively pursued the kid from Charlottesville. Believe me, my son plays in the same club program as their coaching staff approached several other kids to transfer in as juniors. And don't give me that crap these coaches are paid to win and build that legacy, its HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE, this is not High school football in Texas.

The latest transfer from last week really makes you question the integrity of the school.

You are another idiot dad. Several Bulls 2019 kids all play for the same club. They want to play together and the kid outgrew STAB. STOP spreading lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how the Madlax Girls tryouts went?

No. Nobody cares