Baby Missing After Carjacking in Georgetown Early This Evening (30th & M St. NW)

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Anonymous wrote:What is the conversation with your husband and in-laws like when you return home after having left your baby in a car that gets stolen??

+1,000

The car jackets did the right thing. But the onus is solely on the mother. Fortunately, they even left a note to help her out.

Imagine the carjacker writing that note and soothing the baby “You’re ok, they’ll take care of you. I’m sorry your mama is an idiot.”

I know we aren’t supposed to have any sympathy for car jackers - though, in this case these seem to be some version of shoplifters except with an idling unsecured car. But I am glad to know they have some level of morality. There are woods a few blocks from where they dropped the baby and it was 35 degrees and or less last night. Instead they chose a well lit house and knocked to notify the occupants. I’m not saying they deserve a medal just glad that this crime and neglect didn’t turn out so much worse.

I mean, this was by and large a CYA move and nothing more. If they kept the baby (…or abandoned it in the woods) they would have been hunted down and gone to prison and they know it. It’s less touching/heartwarming and more a sign that they’re not absolute idiots

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Anonymous wrote:This is wild. Sounds like they knocked on the door and left the baby on the porch.

Glad it ended well. Wonder if the car will be torched on the PG border.

This is a really heartwarming turn of events. They did the right thing.

It's a rollercoaster of a story. They did do the right thing. Still feel horrified by the mom. some witnesses commented that she took her time smelling all the candles at La Labo, ran out clutching one when she saw her car was gone, and then came back in to talk to the Police there.

What witnesses? Do you have a link (l googled but didn’t find). Her behavior sounds too crazy to be true.

NP here. I read that in the comments of the Washingtonian problems insta page. I think it is in this particular post. https://www.instagram.com/p/C1vV3uBRXM6/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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Anonymous wrote:Car does not turn off due to fob and car distance. I know people who drove far away from the fob making it to their destination. It's only once the car is turned off it's off.

Yes it does. I drove my DH to the metro and kept his car, except he had the fob in his pocket. Car turned off 1 mile away. Not sure how far the people you know drove, but without the fob cars definitely eventually turn off. This is why the police advise people to keep the fob on their person while pumping gas, vs leaving inside the car (like in the cup holder); because thieves either overpower the owner pumping gas and get in on the driver side OR slide in on the passenger side, lock the doors, climb over to the drive side and drive away (bye bye car).

Sorry, but it didn’t. It’s a Federal requirement that it stays running with no fob for safety reasons as long as it is in drive or left in park for 30 mins or longer.

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Anonymous wrote:The baby was left in the car seat on a street in SE but the car is still missing. Curious about where/with who?

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/4-month-old-girl-found-after-being-taken-in-georgetown-car-theft/3508529/

Thank goodness she is safe.

I hope these guys get charged with kidnapping and child abuse, and get put away for a long time.

Sounds like these guys are on the loose joyriding in the jeep? At our councilmembers safety walk the USAO representative told us they can't charge carjackers cos when four sets of prints are found they don't know who the jacker was.. COMPLETE IMPUNITY and zero solutions offered.

Hope you told them what utter bullshit this was! 4sets of fingerprints? Arrest and charge them all, unless there is a reason for that fingerprint in the car. Are these people STUPID?

No. They have a different goal than you do. Can't you see that? Listen to their rhetoric.

If multiple people commit a crime, it is very hard to get a conviction. I was on a jury and found this out because our case involved one main guy, but then another guy showed up, so reasonable doubt goes into question. I was so disturbed about this and looked it up.

I’m sure criminals know this. DA’s certainly do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is so embarrassing for DC and really illustrates what a shit show it has become.

Spiraling the drain here.

AGREED!

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Anonymous wrote:She is probably from a low crime country and this is a misunderstanding of "how things work" in scummy crime ridden DC. In England people used to leave a row of babies in prams outside the waitrose while they shopped, sunning themselves and getting their vitamin D. I'm sure it's cultural. I'm also loving how we (you) are basically all focused on the "rape victims clothing" right now. Someone stealing cars on M street is a bold move, and car theft is bound to result in mayhem and death at some point. I was almost massacred stepping into the street in Georgetown the other day when a car took the corner Grand Theft Auto style, probably driving away from a crime or stolen. This is squarely on the perps.
But sure--call for her head. Maybe they'll take the baby away and give it to the DC child welfare system so it can grow up to be a car jacker.

+1000000
American low expectations

My family is European and I'm born and raised DC (Georgetown even, not far from this spot - read I was raised with money and privilege).

It is obnoxious how many people move here and act like the rules don't apply to them. Some of these rules are things like parking; or having to file for a permit to do home repairs to common sense rules (don't leave your car running on M St with your baby inside); your condo is not a nightclub and people have jobs and families; don't speed through a school zone and yes the city has school zones.

The car jackers shouldn't have stolen the car; they aren't animals and made sure the baby was safe which is more than I can say for the mother.

You don't let your kid swim in a pool without someone watching them even if they can swim; even if they have floaties. This is common sense. You wear a seat belt even if you are a great driver.

Common sense not so common.

BTW BIL pissed that he got a parking ticket in DC years back. He thought he wouldn't because he was driving a rental. Yeah - its obnoxious.

God, you must be Swiss. I agree she had a total brain fart, but that is different from kidnapping. Blaming the victim is awful. Leave that family ALONE.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so embarrassing for DC and really illustrates what a shit show it has become.

Spiraling the drain here.

AGREED!

+ umptillion
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The baby was left in the car seat on a street in SE but the car is still missing. Curious about where/with who?

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/4-month-old-girl-found-after-being-taken-in-georgetown-car-theft/3508529/

Thank goodness she is safe.

I hope these guys get charged with kidnapping and child abuse, and get put away for a long time.

Sounds like these guys are on the loose joyriding in the jeep? At our councilmembers safety walk the USAO representative told us they can't charge carjackers cos when four sets of prints are found they don't know who the jacker was.. COMPLETE IMPUNITY and zero solutions offered.

Hope you told them what utter bullshit this was! 4sets of fingerprints? Arrest and charge them all, unless there is a reason for that fingerprint in the car. Are these people STUPID?

I’m a former prosecutor so I will take a crack at explaining why it is difficult to charge someone with carjacking based on fingerprints alone. When a car gets jacked by say several people who are masked and wearing generic dark clothing, the lookout for the suspects is obviously weak and the victim won’t be able to make an ID of people that did the carjacking. Then say the car is recovered the next day abandoned. The vehicle is printed and you get some hits off the prints. All you can prove is that the people whose prints were in the vehicle had been inside it at some point. You cannot prove that those people jacked the vehicle. You also can’t prove that they went joyriding in it after it was jacked because it was jacked with a key, so there wasn’t anything that would indicate to a passenger in the vehicle that the car was stolen. If, say the jackers weren’t masked and the victims got a look at the suspects, you can definitely put the people whose prints were found inside the car in photo arrays and show them to the victims and maybe they ID the jackers.

This is exactly what we were told at Frumin's "safety meeting". Maybe by YOU. WTF don't they have to explain how their prints came to be in a vehicle that is not theirs? How about if their prints are found in ANOTHER vehicle that's not theirs, we say "that's QUITE a coincidence" and throw them in jail? Tween/teen carjackers are obviously taking advantage of 'the benefit of the doubt' on repeat. Law makers and prosecutors need to address this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Car does not turn off due to fob and car distance. I know people who drove far away from the fob making it to their destination. It's only once the car is turned off it's off.

Yes it does. I drove my DH to the metro and kept his car, except he had the fob in his pocket. Car turned off 1 mile away. Not sure how far the people you know drove, but without the fob cars definitely eventually turn off. This is why the police advise people to keep the fob on their person while pumping gas, vs leaving inside the car (like in the cup holder); because thieves either overpower the owner pumping gas and get in on the driver side OR slide in on the passenger side, lock the doors, climb over to the drive side and drive away (bye bye car).

where were you when it turned off? in the middle of the road while car was moving?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the conversation with your husband and in-laws like when you return home after having left your baby in a car that gets stolen??

+1,000

The car jackets did the right thing. But the onus is solely on the mother. Fortunately, they even left a note to help her out.

Imagine the carjacker writing that note and soothing the baby “You’re ok, they’ll take care of you. I’m sorry your mama is an idiot.”

I know we aren’t supposed to have any sympathy for car jackers - though, in this case these seem to be some version of shoplifters except with an idling unsecured car. But I am glad to know they have some level of morality. There are woods a few blocks from where they dropped the baby and it was 35 degrees and or less last night. Instead they chose a well lit house and knocked to notify the occupants. I’m not saying they deserve a medal just glad that this crime and neglect didn’t turn out so much worse.

I mean, this was by and large a CYA move and nothing more. If they kept the baby (…or abandoned it in the woods) they would have been hunted down and gone to prison and they know it. It’s less touching/heartwarming and more a sign that they’re not absolute idiots

Yeah, true. I’m not saying they are heroes but that baby was so terribly vulnerable from the moment mom left her in the car alone to the moment the person in the house in SE answered the door. It just blows my mind all that could have happened in between. I’m glad the thieves didn’t abandon the car with the baby in it or leave the baby in some isolated area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the conversation with your husband and in-laws like when you return home after having left your baby in a car that gets stolen??

+1,000

The car jackets did the right thing. But the onus is solely on the mother. Fortunately, they even left a note to help her out.

Imagine the carjacker writing that note and soothing the baby “You’re ok, they’ll take care of you. I’m sorry your mama is an idiot.”

I know we aren’t supposed to have any sympathy for car jackers - though, in this case these seem to be some version of shoplifters except with an idling unsecured car. But I am glad to know they have some level of morality. There are woods a few blocks from where they dropped the baby and it was 35 degrees and or less last night. Instead they chose a well lit house and knocked to notify the occupants. I’m not saying they deserve a medal just glad that this crime and neglect didn’t turn out so much worse.

The best way I can put it is that they are criminals, they’re not monsters. I’m glad they returned the baby but this whole situation is messed up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is wild. Sounds like they knocked on the door and left the baby on the porch.

Glad it ended well. Wonder if the car will be torched on the PG border.

This is a really heartwarming turn of events. They did the right thing.

heartwarming? kidnapping an infant and then abandoning it outside?

Not surprising DC has such a crime problem if carjacking and kidnapping an infant is considered a heartwarming story.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so F*cked Up..it's time for Congress to act..it's time for us to act. Is anyone ready to demonstrate? I'm ready to express myself.

Congress should do whatw? You will act how? Seriously what do you think will prevent this crime?

If citizens start shooting back?

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Will the perps be caught and charged with kidnapping?

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Anonymous wrote:Will the perps be caught and charged with kidnapping?

Does DC catch any of these criminals? Bowser and her ilk do not seem to care.