You sound miserable, frankly. This is no way to live -- for you, forget about the family. You only have sex with him when you're half asleep? You feel mildly repulsed? No more in love feelings? I'm 15 years in with kids also, of course you don't feel in love every minute of the day but every day? Yes. Without an emotional connection this would be hell. |
If you're 43 now, does that mean that you have a one year old at home, OP? |
BS that sex is a stress relief for guys and not for women. Do you know a lot of guys that want to run home and have sex with their wives when they get a bad review at work and are threatened with getting fired? Or are on a tight deadline working overnights for a demanding boss? Sex isn't a "stress relief" for anyone. You have to engage your parasympathetic nervous system to get aroused (the old "point and shoot"). OP just isn't as stressed about family life. He probably doesn't feel that it's *his* responsibility the way that his wife does. But if it were something that were |
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Low-libido people, we, your high-libido spouses, still love you. However, you have got to get it through your heads that condemning us to years of celibacy is not an acceptable solution to your problems with us. Perhaps, like my DH, you simply are not interested in having sex often, even if someone else is doing the bulk of the grunt work at home. If I chose to deal with the years of sexual deprivation by gambling or shopping us deeply into debt, no one would agree that this was a valid means of dealing with my frustration. Coerced sexlessness breaks down the partner and thus the family just as uncontrolled spending destroys the financial stability of the family.
Women who do not want sex need to do what our mothers and grandmothers were wise enough to do: put out or sign that hall pass without a mumble. No woman or man is worth decades without physical affection. People today think this is a reasonable sacrifice because they do much in the workplace and earn more money and have a higher standard of living generally. But y'all are all the way wrong. |
Ok look I am not much use to you because I am on the west coast, have about 20 lbs of extra weight and some skin problems, and a couple years older, but I just wanted to say - please don’t get into this rut of thinking nobody will want you. They may not be the people YOU want though. I, for one, am turned on by your unabated desire. And I love Ralph Fiennes (at any age lol). So yeah. As to your overall story.... you seem to not want to do anything really. Your only acceptable (to you!) option is talking your wife into therapy. The problem is - sexual quirks are very very hard to overcome. Even if you figure out why she isn’t attracted it means either a long recovery or divorce. There are only two real solutions: an affair or divorce. I am divorced and while it’s stressful - it is not that bad. But I was clear I would rather give up material things than stay. My kid was 7 when it all started to a little easier I guess. Also I would think how much emotional/prestige stuff you attach to sex. I think a large part of why you are feeling miserable is because you feel like you don’t have control over your desires or are a loser for not being able to satisfy them. I see this a lot with people who didn’t have many partners when they were young and they are now thinking oh I am missing out. Anyway, good luck to you. I am sure things will start happening once you are more open to any kind of change. |
| I just had sex with somebody I met on tinder. We went to Cracker Barrel and straight to a hotel. She was married also. She wants nothing more than sex. She said we can skip dinner next time. I feel alive again. |
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I just want to give you some hope if so, OP. It's not uncommon for women to be completely spent the first two years after having a kid, especially if there are older kids in the picture. We were in your situation until our youngest was around 3 or 4, then it turned around and now we're back to every other day or so. I think if you have a lot of little kids then your wife is probably depleted from pregnancy and nursing, plus running around after toddlers and preschoolers. It's just a lot. Give it some time. Take stuff off her plate. She might want to do her bloodwork if she's exhausted and check for anemia or Vit D deficiency. It really does take time to build back up a libido after making a life or multiple lives in your bodies. The baby lives off of you for 2 years, by the time you factor nursing. Imagine if you had a giant parasite attached to you, how energetic you'd feel. |
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I agree with the PP. I went from having sex a handful of times a year to doing it multiple times a week. I was exhausted with baby, preschooler, elementary schooler, work part time, house and just generally overwhelmed with life. I just wanted to be by myself in the evenings. Does your wife have any hobbies or can she go to regular fitness classes? She might need some alone time.
Another thing that helped were toys. Buy a toy and use it on your wife. More pleasure leads to wanting to do it more often. Just an idea. |
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Tl;dr Man wants to cheat on wife, gives reason why it’s justified, outsources guilty conscience onto anonymous board
Outcome: anonymous board approves, man sets up Tinder, feels too guilty to actually commit to plan, end evening resentfully masturbating like every other night FIN curtain |
I understand that I’m just getting anxious that things will never slow down. As we get older I notice she finds new ways to keep herself busier and busier. Not with hobbies or friend but busy stuff - signing kids up for every activity possible so I spend weekends driving across the DMV, spending hours looking at Craigslist for pieces of used furniture we really don’t need, reorganizing our house every couple weeks. Some of this is fine but the pace is exhaustive. I mean we’ve got plenty on our plates already but she still seems to try to make sure every moment of our lives is booked above and beyond what is probably necessary. I would love if she would do something, anything out of the house: yoga, girls nights out, lectures whatever because I think it would help relax her but she isn’t interested. A couple years back she actually did buy toy. Of course I was thrilled because it meant she wanted to be proactive about intimacy. We used it and it was pretty good. A few days later She told me she was bothered that I seemed to enjoy our sex night too much much and that I made it last too long. She may have had a point but when you only do it twice a year you make every moment count. Anyway I felt humiliated and ashamed and it was the last time we ever used the toy. |
I probably made our situation seem worse than it really is. I was/am still currently mad at DH. DH is handsome, fit, smart and successful. He can be charismatic when he wants and earns a seven figure income. we have sex a few times per month so not exactly sexless. |
I can’t even go through with browsing tinder but yes you are probably correct. I have had actual real life in person opportunities to stray in the recent past. I loved the attention and wanted to keep it going because it felt so great to feel attractive but I knew it would stop feeling good the moment I entered the stage of deceit and hurt so always backed off. I don’t regret it(unless I found out she was having an affair this whole time) but it is still frustrating. |
OK, so you do have very young kids. I would put the question to her in a constructive way. Thinking about our priorities for the family, would you say the most urgent/important are 1) X, Y, and Z related to the kids' growth and development and 2) A, B, and C related to the home (i.e. decluttering, organization, etc.? I would help her knock those out. Make it a team effort. See if that puts you on her side. Write them down on a piece of paper with a timeline and show her when they are crossed out. Then sit down with her and tell her it was great working on those things, and you think it would be good together to look at the bigger picture of what the goals are for the family in the short term, 5 year, and 10 year horizon. It sounds to me like some of this activity is necessary and some may be anxiety about not knowing how to achieve the family goals, coupled with feeling responsible for setting the goals and doing that on her own. If you can put personal health and healthy marriage on there as well, and figure out with her how it works with the other priorities, that may help. But please keep in mind that when the youngest is not even 5 yet the goalposts are constantly moving. Kids need a lot, developmentally speaking. She may not have any support in thinking that through and figuring out a strategy that makes best use of the family energy. I know that many women essentially carry all this around in their heads. When will we start solids? How will we potty train? So and so needs to learn their alphabet. The closet is a mess, I can't find anything and it's full of outgrown clothes so what should I do with them. Art supplies are everywhere -- what can I use to organize them? The kids need some toys, they are bored. This one is outgrowing their bed. If they're nightraining they need to get out of the crib. Or whatever. It's a constant, and I mean constant, stream of little things that niggle at your attention. Either you need to game plan together or you need to hire some help to take this off her plate. Professional organizer. Re: sex she seems to have some anxiety there. In general it sounds like there's a lot of anxiety. But see what you can do to put yourself on her side, then maybe she'll start to take the steps she needs to get in a better place. |