How do I find decent UMC guys to date?

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Anonymous wrote:Work out, eat well, look your best all the time. Don’t ever look frumpy when you are out. You never know who you will meet.

You probably don’t look much different at 31 from 27 or 28. I would meet new people and go out all the time.

My friend got divorced at 35 and remarried at 39. She hung out with new youbger friends who went out all the time. They had tons of guys around all the time. All my friend’s previous friends were settle down, married with kids.

Great advice.

Latina and Slavic women are born knowing this.

Northwest euro women and Jewish women are oblivious to this.

Frump is not cute

BS, there are a lot of men who prefer a woman who can be hot while wearing sweats and a baseball cap to a woman who takes hours to apply her face before facing the public. If you want to play regional stereotypes, southern women who can be attractive at a tailgate and then dress for a dinner out split the difference between you examples.

Completely agree. I am a woman who puts on a full face before she goes out. I enjoy looking glamorous and dresss accordingly, and I know for sure there are plenty of guys who dont like it as much and prefer women who "dress down". Think of Kate Middleton. I dont really care because I genuinely dress for myself (and maybe to impress other women, lol) so I am still going to wear my designer clothes/purses. But I actually think a lot of men like women who are very sparing with makeup and clothes.

There's also a lot of men who get intimidated by women who look super glam. My point is, it's a fiction that women who dress up suddenly pull in all the men. I think it's really the luck of the draw.

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I am in my mid 30s and have incredibly high value men wanting to date me. Some celebrities and very powerful men. I dont think it's true at all that those men want to date younger. Most of them want a HV woman their own age, as long as you can still have kids. I do think the best advice is to have friends introduce you or go out to very expensive/upscale clubs and bars where you will find these men. You can find men younger or your own age, but I do think there's some truth that men tend to marry earlier so the older they get the more the single ones are the "leftovers"

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Asian tech nerds.

By this I do NOT mean conventionally handsome, outgoing tech entrepreneurs or Silicon Valley-ish bros. Those guys are either taken, or jerks.

I mean introverted IT guys from East Asia or South Asia. Immigrants or first generation. Socially awkward. Not all of them are terrible looking, it’s just hard to get them away from their screens.

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Anonymous wrote:Work out, eat well, look your best all the time. Don’t ever look frumpy when you are out. You never know who you will meet.

You probably don’t look much different at 31 from 27 or 28. I would meet new people and go out all the time.

My friend got divorced at 35 and remarried at 39. She hung out with new youbger friends who went out all the time. They had tons of guys around all the time. All my friend’s previous friends were settle down, married with kids.

Great advice.

Latina and Slavic women are born knowing this.

Northwest euro women and Jewish women are oblivious to this.

Frump is not cute

BS, there are a lot of men who prefer a woman who can be hot while wearing sweats and a baseball cap to a woman who takes hours to apply her face before facing the public. If you want to play regional stereotypes, southern women who can be attractive at a tailgate and then dress for a dinner out split the difference between you examples.

Completely agree. I am a woman who puts on a full face before she goes out. I enjoy looking glamorous and dresss accordingly, and I know for sure there are plenty of guys who dont like it as much and prefer women who "dress down". Think of Kate Middleton. I dont really care because I genuinely dress for myself (and maybe to impress other women, lol) so I am still going to wear my designer clothes/purses. But I actually think a lot of men like women who are very sparing with makeup and clothes.

There's also a lot of men who get intimidated by women who look super glam. My point is, it's a fiction that women who dress up suddenly pull in all the men. I think it's really the luck of the draw.

There is a HUGE area between a full face of makeup, looking glamorous, and frump. Kate Middleton is never ever frump.

Men generally don’t like frump and the frumpy disheveled look that you might have been cute as a 19 yr old college co-Ed, isn’t cute at 30+

I would say UMC don’t usually go for the full makeup, glam look- for serious girlfriend material. They prefer the clean face, “no makeup” makeup look. Nice causal clothes, think well fit jeans and a cashmere sweater. Don’t go around in a messy top knot, leggings, and a hoodie, and eyelash extensions.

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Are you dating online OP? Go shorter. Stop filtering out men under 5’10”

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Anonymous wrote:Work out, eat well, look your best all the time. Don’t ever look frumpy when you are out. You never know who you will meet.

You probably don’t look much different at 31 from 27 or 28. I would meet new people and go out all the time.

My friend got divorced at 35 and remarried at 39. She hung out with new youbger friends who went out all the time. They had tons of guys around all the time. All my friend’s previous friends were settle down, married with kids.

Great advice.

Latina and Slavic women are born knowing this.

Northwest euro women and Jewish women are oblivious to this.

Frump is not cute

BS, there are a lot of men who prefer a woman who can be hot while wearing sweats and a baseball cap to a woman who takes hours to apply her face before facing the public. If you want to play regional stereotypes, southern women who can be attractive at a tailgate and then dress for a dinner out split the difference between you examples.

Completely agree. I am a woman who puts on a full face before she goes out. I enjoy looking glamorous and dresss accordingly, and I know for sure there are plenty of guys who dont like it as much and prefer women who "dress down". Think of Kate Middleton. I dont really care because I genuinely dress for myself (and maybe to impress other women, lol) so I am still going to wear my designer clothes/purses. But I actually think a lot of men like women who are very sparing with makeup and clothes.

There's also a lot of men who get intimidated by women who look super glam. My point is, it's a fiction that women who dress up suddenly pull in all the men. I think it's really the luck of the draw.

There is a HUGE area between a full face of makeup, looking glamorous, and frump. Kate Middleton is never ever frump.

Men generally don’t like frump and the frumpy disheveled look that you might have been cute as a 19 yr old college co-Ed, isn’t cute at 30+

I would say UMC don’t usually go for the full makeup, glam look- for serious girlfriend material. They prefer the clean face, “no makeup” makeup look. Nice causal clothes, think well fit jeans and a cashmere sweater. Don’t go around in a messy top knot, leggings, and a hoodie, and eyelash extensions.

That's the thing, men go for different looks. I get a ton of attention from men, I'm not lacking in it. Also the culture of DC and what men from DC find attractive is different than in other high earning cities like Los Angeles, Dallas, New York, Boston, Chicago, London, Dubai, etc. I love my look and get a ton of positive attention so i will continue my full face of makeup. But my point is that plenty of men DO like dishevelled women and I see dishevelled looking women dating men all the time. Some men love that.

There's a lid for every pot. Do what you like and the men will come.

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Any mid 30s successful single male who makes decent income, has their own home already, etc. is dating mid to late 20s and is interested in no drama availability until THEY are ready to settle down. They have the upper hand biologically and it sucks because they can be 40 with 20 years of accumulating wealth and investing in their jobs and then take that to marry a women 10-20 years younger and have a complete life with wife and kids after that and they wont miss a beat. Theyll be 60-68 when their youngest go to college and they will be retired. Wife will be 40-55 and then they have another life together as retirees.

He skips the whole first wife drama, alimony, and child support and basically gets to live 3 lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I dont know either. I'm a very attractive woman, early 30s, hang out in upscale places, live in an upscale building, and I have a super hard time meeting eligible men. I think p*rn and video games have done a number on men and so many young guys are just... losers.

I'm gonna date for a few more years and possible find a sp**m donor, or else pick up some hot young guy and make him into a househusband, lol. It's not ideal but it is what it is. If you look at the statistics you can see birth rates are plummeting, marriage rates are falling, etc. Men arent going to college or getting jobs.

So either you get lucky and find a man youre compatible with or I guess you do things alone. I'm also open to dating men from other cultures (specifically european or east asian, because that's what I'm attracted to) who seem much more marriage minded.

it's mostly a waste of time in the USA, and I think you see higher numbers of male virgins and incels than ever before. It's just a disaster for men out there.

So I think a lot more women will just raise kids on their own. Theyve been doing it in the black community for a long time. I think that will start spreading across all demographics, and oh well. It's really not that awful when you think about it. I'm mentally and financially prepared to have and raise kids if that's what happens. C'est la vie!

The men you want are dating younger, hotter versions of you.

There is no "younger, hotter" version of a person. If the PP is attractive, they'll have their own unique look that you cant just easily find a replacement for.

OK. They are dating younger and hotter women in general and PP will settle for an older, homelier, less desirable man or stay single.

Not if the PP is really hot and maintains it. I dont see many mid30s men dating hotties. Most of the desirable 30s men are married and the only ones left are the rejects, as the big law PP pointed out.

Are you out at the best restaurants and most popular places on weekends to witness this, or are you shuttling to soccer games and violin practice? You don't see to because you're not invited.

Yes, I certainly am. And am friends with these guys on facebooks. The mid 30s single male crowd are the leftovers and losers, with very few exceptions.

Facebook lol. No wonder you don't see it.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol so op wants a tall guy with a masters who makes over 175k that want kids.

Yeah, those get harder to find by mid 30s.

Not really. I’m married but run into these guys all the time in dc area. Get yourself in shape and go meet them at the gym.

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Anonymous wrote:Any mid 30s successful single male who makes decent income, has their own home already, etc. is dating mid to late 20s and is interested in no drama availability until THEY are ready to settle down. They have the upper hand biologically and it sucks because they can be 40 with 20 years of accumulating wealth and investing in their jobs and then take that to marry a women 10-20 years younger and have a complete life with wife and kids after that and they wont miss a beat. Theyll be 60-68 when their youngest go to college and they will be retired. Wife will be 40-55 and then they have another life together as retirees.

He skips the whole first wife drama, alimony, and child support and basically gets to live 3 lives.

Absolutely false. Also, most successful mid 30s men are married, and the ones who arent have serious commitment issues or were/are extremely unattractive due to being bald/fat/short/ugly face or severely socially awkward. NOT men women are worried about.

I do think women should look to dating younger, as many celebrity women do, if they want a HVM in their 30s. There's just way more quality/selection.

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Anonymous wrote:Op what are you like? How old are you? Where do you live?

I’m 31F, white, fit, living in DC working as a fed.

Did you have umc track boys dating you in hs, college or in your twenties?

What are the types of guys you got from 16-30?

Lots of different types. I did go through a bad boy phase in college for a bit but I’ve dated the introverted nerdy guys as well.

So basically UMC-tracked boys did not date you and you yourself are not UMC-tracked?

I think that certain type of guys are UMC-tracked and good DH material. They also do not have a protector mentality and are attracted to low-drama, UMC-tracked, emotionally stable, mature, good looking and healthy girls. It may sound very vanilla but that's the truth.

What the f**k is UMC-tracked? I grew up in a UMC family. My siblings and I are all UMC as well. It's the upbringing and education that brought that about. If your were UMC growing up, you'll probably be UMC as well.

It's the biggest predictor, but probably is a stretch. It doesn't take much to slip down to middle class.

exactly. This is something that is ignored a lot of the time. Lets be honest... with inflation and the price of homes... making $200,000 a year is not the same as it was 10 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I dont know either. I'm a very attractive woman, early 30s, hang out in upscale places, live in an upscale building, and I have a super hard time meeting eligible men. I think p*rn and video games have done a number on men and so many young guys are just... losers.

I'm gonna date for a few more years and possible find a sp**m donor, or else pick up some hot young guy and make him into a househusband, lol. It's not ideal but it is what it is. If you look at the statistics you can see birth rates are plummeting, marriage rates are falling, etc. Men arent going to college or getting jobs.

So either you get lucky and find a man youre compatible with or I guess you do things alone. I'm also open to dating men from other cultures (specifically european or east asian, because that's what I'm attracted to) who seem much more marriage minded.

it's mostly a waste of time in the USA, and I think you see higher numbers of male virgins and incels than ever before. It's just a disaster for men out there.

So I think a lot more women will just raise kids on their own. Theyve been doing it in the black community for a long time. I think that will start spreading across all demographics, and oh well. It's really not that awful when you think about it. I'm mentally and financially prepared to have and raise kids if that's what happens. C'est la vie!

The men you want are dating younger, hotter versions of you.

There is no "younger, hotter" version of a person. If the PP is attractive, they'll have their own unique look that you cant just easily find a replacement for.

OK. They are dating younger and hotter women in general and PP will settle for an older, homelier, less desirable man or stay single.

Not if the PP is really hot and maintains it. I dont see many mid30s men dating hotties. Most of the desirable 30s men are married and the only ones left are the rejects, as the big law PP pointed out.

Are you out at the best restaurants and most popular places on weekends to witness this, or are you shuttling to soccer games and violin practice? You don't see to because you're not invited.

Yes, I certainly am. And am friends with these guys on facebooks. The mid 30s single male crowd are the leftovers and losers, with very few exceptions.

Facebook lol. No wonder you don't see it.

You dont have any facebook friends, lol? See I what I mean about these men being misfits? 🤣

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it so difficult to find men who are educated, mature, and have good careers? There are so many trashy men on the apps, they just want hookups or are working a “job” but don’t have a proper career. I really want to start a family and this is depressing. Just venting. UGH

I have met a lot of men like this. How old are you?

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Anonymous wrote:Any mid 30s successful single male who makes decent income, has their own home already, etc. is dating mid to late 20s and is interested in no drama availability until THEY are ready to settle down. They have the upper hand biologically and it sucks because they can be 40 with 20 years of accumulating wealth and investing in their jobs and then take that to marry a women 10-20 years younger and have a complete life with wife and kids after that and they wont miss a beat. Theyll be 60-68 when their youngest go to college and they will be retired. Wife will be 40-55 and then they have another life together as retirees.

He skips the whole first wife drama, alimony, and child support and basically gets to live 3 lives.

Yep and she dumps him when he turns 60 and goes for a younger guy that can keep up (and get it up) with her.😀

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Anonymous wrote:Any mid 30s successful single male who makes decent income, has their own home already, etc. is dating mid to late 20s and is interested in no drama availability until THEY are ready to settle down. They have the upper hand biologically and it sucks because they can be 40 with 20 years of accumulating wealth and investing in their jobs and then take that to marry a women 10-20 years younger and have a complete life with wife and kids after that and they wont miss a beat. Theyll be 60-68 when their youngest go to college and they will be retired. Wife will be 40-55 and then they have another life together as retirees.

He skips the whole first wife drama, alimony, and child support and basically gets to live 3 lives.

Yep and she dumps him when he turns 60 and goes for a younger guy that can keep up (and get it up) with her.😀

Yep. That's when the pool boy really starts earning his worth!