How do I find decent UMC guys to date?

[Anonymous]

These men are snatched up by 25. Not kidding. All UMC couples I know settled down by 28. These guys were making 200k-500k by 30. Their gfs weren’t going to let them go.

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Anonymous wrote:My DH is this. UMC, he has some inherited family $$$ that is coming. He’s an engaged father, has a good job, 6’3” etc. Here’s my take, if the guys falling into this category aren’t complete tools, they’re totally off the market by the time they’re 30. We started dating when he was 26 and I was 34. All of his similar friends that are decent looking were already in relationships when we met or in serious relationships that led to marriage within two months of me meeting him. I’m now 35, and he’s almost 38. His only single friend left is lazy, short, gotten overweight, and not good looking.

Yep. They’re all taken by now.

Good advice. And you started dating him when you were 34. So the takeaway is: date younger! I do think men like to be in a relationship more than women (statistics back that up) so they tend to settle down earlier. A lot of women want to be wild until mid 30s, and they may be top quality women, but didn't want kids or anything earlier. Men seem to figure out what they want way earlier, IME

+1 Date younger

PP came back and said it was a typo. She met her husband at 24. RTFF

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I dont know either. I'm a very attractive woman, early 30s, hang out in upscale places, live in an upscale building, and I have a super hard time meeting eligible men. I think p*rn and video games have done a number on men and so many young guys are just... losers.

I'm gonna date for a few more years and possible find a sp**m donor, or else pick up some hot young guy and make him into a househusband, lol. It's not ideal but it is what it is. If you look at the statistics you can see birth rates are plummeting, marriage rates are falling, etc. Men arent going to college or getting jobs.

So either you get lucky and find a man youre compatible with or I guess you do things alone. I'm also open to dating men from other cultures (specifically european or east asian, because that's what I'm attracted to) who seem much more marriage minded.

it's mostly a waste of time in the USA, and I think you see higher numbers of male virgins and incels than ever before. It's just a disaster for men out there.

So I think a lot more women will just raise kids on their own. Theyve been doing it in the black community for a long time. I think that will start spreading across all demographics, and oh well. It's really not that awful when you think about it. I'm mentally and financially prepared to have and raise kids if that's what happens. C'est la vie!

The men you want are dating younger, hotter versions of you.

There is no "younger, hotter" version of a person. If the PP is attractive, they'll have their own unique look that you cant just easily find a replacement for.

OK. They are dating younger and hotter women in general and PP will settle for an older, homelier, less desirable man or stay single.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I dont know either. I'm a very attractive woman, early 30s, hang out in upscale places, live in an upscale building, and I have a super hard time meeting eligible men. I think p*rn and video games have done a number on men and so many young guys are just... losers.

I'm gonna date for a few more years and possible find a sp**m donor, or else pick up some hot young guy and make him into a househusband, lol. It's not ideal but it is what it is. If you look at the statistics you can see birth rates are plummeting, marriage rates are falling, etc. Men arent going to college or getting jobs.

So either you get lucky and find a man youre compatible with or I guess you do things alone. I'm also open to dating men from other cultures (specifically european or east asian, because that's what I'm attracted to) who seem much more marriage minded.

it's mostly a waste of time in the USA, and I think you see higher numbers of male virgins and incels than ever before. It's just a disaster for men out there.

So I think a lot more women will just raise kids on their own. Theyve been doing it in the black community for a long time. I think that will start spreading across all demographics, and oh well. It's really not that awful when you think about it. I'm mentally and financially prepared to have and raise kids if that's what happens. C'est la vie!

The men you want are dating younger, hotter versions of you.

There is no "younger, hotter" version of a person. If the PP is attractive, they'll have their own unique look that you cant just easily find a replacement for.

OK. They are dating younger and hotter women in general and PP will settle for an older, homelier, less desirable man or stay single.

Not if the PP is really hot and maintains it. I dont see many mid30s men dating hotties. Most of the desirable 30s men are married and the only ones left are the rejects, as the big law PP pointed out.

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Anonymous wrote:Work out, eat well, look your best all the time. Don’t ever look frumpy when you are out. You never know who you will meet.

You probably don’t look much different at 31 from 27 or 28. I would meet new people and go out all the time.

My friend got divorced at 35 and remarried at 39. She hung out with new youbger friends who went out all the time. They had tons of guys around all the time. All my friend’s previous friends were settle down, married with kids.

Great advice.

[Anonymous]

Angelina Jolie is dating the Weeknd and she's probably 15 years older or more. If the pool dries up and you still look good, just go for younger. Problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I dont know either. I'm a very attractive woman, early 30s, hang out in upscale places, live in an upscale building, and I have a super hard time meeting eligible men. I think p*rn and video games have done a number on men and so many young guys are just... losers.

I'm gonna date for a few more years and possible find a sp**m donor, or else pick up some hot young guy and make him into a househusband, lol. It's not ideal but it is what it is. If you look at the statistics you can see birth rates are plummeting, marriage rates are falling, etc. Men arent going to college or getting jobs.

So either you get lucky and find a man youre compatible with or I guess you do things alone. I'm also open to dating men from other cultures (specifically european or east asian, because that's what I'm attracted to) who seem much more marriage minded.

it's mostly a waste of time in the USA, and I think you see higher numbers of male virgins and incels than ever before. It's just a disaster for men out there.

So I think a lot more women will just raise kids on their own. Theyve been doing it in the black community for a long time. I think that will start spreading across all demographics, and oh well. It's really not that awful when you think about it. I'm mentally and financially prepared to have and raise kids if that's what happens. C'est la vie!

The men you want are dating younger, hotter versions of you.

There is no "younger, hotter" version of a person. If the PP is attractive, they'll have their own unique look that you cant just easily find a replacement for.

OK. They are dating younger and hotter women in general and PP will settle for an older, homelier, less desirable man or stay single.

Not if the PP is really hot and maintains it. I dont see many mid30s men dating hotties. Most of the desirable 30s men are married and the only ones left are the rejects, as the big law PP pointed out.

Are you out at the best restaurants and most popular places on weekends to witness this, or are you shuttling to soccer games and violin practice? You don't see to because you're not invited.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I dont know either. I'm a very attractive woman, early 30s, hang out in upscale places, live in an upscale building, and I have a super hard time meeting eligible men. I think p*rn and video games have done a number on men and so many young guys are just... losers.

I'm gonna date for a few more years and possible find a sp**m donor, or else pick up some hot young guy and make him into a househusband, lol. It's not ideal but it is what it is. If you look at the statistics you can see birth rates are plummeting, marriage rates are falling, etc. Men arent going to college or getting jobs.

So either you get lucky and find a man youre compatible with or I guess you do things alone. I'm also open to dating men from other cultures (specifically european or east asian, because that's what I'm attracted to) who seem much more marriage minded.

it's mostly a waste of time in the USA, and I think you see higher numbers of male virgins and incels than ever before. It's just a disaster for men out there.

So I think a lot more women will just raise kids on their own. Theyve been doing it in the black community for a long time. I think that will start spreading across all demographics, and oh well. It's really not that awful when you think about it. I'm mentally and financially prepared to have and raise kids if that's what happens. C'est la vie!

The men you want are dating younger, hotter versions of you.

There is no "younger, hotter" version of a person. If the PP is attractive, they'll have their own unique look that you cant just easily find a replacement for.

OK. They are dating younger and hotter women in general and PP will settle for an older, homelier, less desirable man or stay single.

Not if the PP is really hot and maintains it. I dont see many mid30s men dating hotties. Most of the desirable 30s men are married and the only ones left are the rejects, as the big law PP pointed out.

Are you out at the best restaurants and most popular places on weekends to witness this, or are you shuttling to soccer games and violin practice? You don't see to because you're not invited.

Yes, I certainly am. And am friends with these guys on facebooks. The mid 30s single male crowd are the leftovers and losers, with very few exceptions.

[Anonymous]

Wow. Walking around calling people losers is unattractive.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I dont know either. I'm a very attractive woman, early 30s, hang out in upscale places, live in an upscale building, and I have a super hard time meeting eligible men. I think p*rn and video games have done a number on men and so many young guys are just... losers.

I'm gonna date for a few more years and possible find a sp**m donor, or else pick up some hot young guy and make him into a househusband, lol. It's not ideal but it is what it is. If you look at the statistics you can see birth rates are plummeting, marriage rates are falling, etc. Men arent going to college or getting jobs.

So either you get lucky and find a man youre compatible with or I guess you do things alone. I'm also open to dating men from other cultures (specifically european or east asian, because that's what I'm attracted to) who seem much more marriage minded.

it's mostly a waste of time in the USA, and I think you see higher numbers of male virgins and incels than ever before. It's just a disaster for men out there.

So I think a lot more women will just raise kids on their own. Theyve been doing it in the black community for a long time. I think that will start spreading across all demographics, and oh well. It's really not that awful when you think about it. I'm mentally and financially prepared to have and raise kids if that's what happens. C'est la vie!

The men you want are dating younger, hotter versions of you.

There is no "younger, hotter" version of a person. If the PP is attractive, they'll have their own unique look that you cant just easily find a replacement for.

OK. They are dating younger and hotter women in general and PP will settle for an older, homelier, less desirable man or stay single.

Not if the PP is really hot and maintains it. I dont see many mid30s men dating hotties. Most of the desirable 30s men are married and the only ones left are the rejects, as the big law PP pointed out.

Are you out at the best restaurants and most popular places on weekends to witness this, or are you shuttling to soccer games and violin practice? You don't see to because you're not invited.

This.

My brother is 36, educated, worldly but not financially ambitious (op would reject him) and his last two gf’s were 23 and 26 who were T20 grads who come from richer families than us.

The umc earning version of my brother easily has a gaggle of mid twenties women chasing them in NYC if my brother was able to pull his last two ex’s

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Anonymous wrote:Work out, eat well, look your best all the time. Don’t ever look frumpy when you are out. You never know who you will meet.

You probably don’t look much different at 31 from 27 or 28. I would meet new people and go out all the time.

My friend got divorced at 35 and remarried at 39. She hung out with new youbger friends who went out all the time. They had tons of guys around all the time. All my friend’s previous friends were settle down, married with kids.

Great advice.

I agree. Also, don’t have your phone out at all times. It makes you unapproachable. Start small talk with guys you are attracted to when out. It doesn’t need to be a conversation, but eye contact, a smile and a quick comment or light question is all it should take if a guy is also single and interested. They will pick up from there.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Walking around calling people losers is unattractive.

Well it's the truth. The big law PP pointed out the same thing but no one got offended.

Or should I rephrase it... "not considered desirable to most women".

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Anonymous wrote:Work out, eat well, look your best all the time. Don’t ever look frumpy when you are out. You never know who you will meet.

You probably don’t look much different at 31 from 27 or 28. I would meet new people and go out all the time.

My friend got divorced at 35 and remarried at 39. She hung out with new youbger friends who went out all the time. They had tons of guys around all the time. All my friend’s previous friends were settle down, married with kids.

Great advice.

Latina and Slavic women are born knowing this.

Northwest euro women and Jewish women are oblivious to this.

Frump is not cute

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These men are snatched up by 25. Not kidding. All UMC couples I know settled down by 28. These guys were making 200k-500k by 30. Their gfs weren’t going to let them go.

It's chicken and egg. It's a lot easier to buckle down and concentrate on work when you are going home to a loving partner rather than a bunch or roommates who want to hit the bars every Friday night.

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Anonymous wrote:Work out, eat well, look your best all the time. Don’t ever look frumpy when you are out. You never know who you will meet.

You probably don’t look much different at 31 from 27 or 28. I would meet new people and go out all the time.

My friend got divorced at 35 and remarried at 39. She hung out with new youbger friends who went out all the time. They had tons of guys around all the time. All my friend’s previous friends were settle down, married with kids.

Great advice.

Latina and Slavic women are born knowing this.

Northwest euro women and Jewish women are oblivious to this.

Frump is not cute

BS, there are a lot of men who prefer a woman who can be hot while wearing sweats and a baseball cap to a woman who takes hours to apply her face before facing the public. If you want to play regional stereotypes, southern women who can be attractive at a tailgate and then dress for a dinner out split the difference between you examples.