I am so sick of talking about sexuality, gender, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:What planet and what decade did middle schooler not talk about dating/who they like?

Not the OP, but in my experience, this group of middle schoolers is not talking about who they like, as in this person or that person. It’s more like they feel pressured, starting at the age of 11-12, to figure out and publicly identify both their gender identity and sexual orientation. And it’s all very hypothetical at this point, i.e. not based on actual crushes, but more about which group you want to align yourself with based on styles and tastes. This absolutely has not been a widespread thing in decades past.

Really? Do when you were growing up 11-12 year olds who were not interested in dating were not pressured to identify “who they liked”? They were not pressured to “go together”. 7th- 8th graders were not pressured to kiss somebody? Nobody played spin the bottle even if they didn’t care to kiss anybody?

Girls were not called tomboys, boys were not called “Tom girls”.

Boys were called “gay” or “f@g” if they did not act jock?

Your just remember it in a way you think is “normal” because hetero pressure is just normal to you.

I didn’t kiss anyone til I was 16 and never once played spin the bottle or was pressured to go with anyone. I was the quiet, studious girl who boys paid no attention to. (But I secretly had crushes on boys.) In today’s world, based on my observations among my DD’s friends, I’m pretty sure I would feel the obligation to identify as asexual, pansexual or lesbian, to keep my options open and ensure that I wasn’t acting in any sort of -phobic way. Don’t even try to tell me this is how it’s always been.

Our children go to a school with class trips and overnights and dances. It’s a total mess and waste of energy in the fall about what girl/girls, boy/boys, girl/boys are going to match up. Skies the limit.
Same for the tent overnights. Everyone body thinking they. Red to be experimenting with everybody. Truly bizarre.

We told our kids to date kids not from their school. Too awkward.

One month girl A is dating or kissing Boy A, then a few months later is “kissing Girl B” and the back to Boy A or B, etc. It’s ruining friendships too, since things turn bad once denied or broken up. Soon no one will be dating within the school, they alienated everyone during grades 5-8. It seems to mainly kissing or feeling up, since I’m their adolescent Brian’s that’s the Feelings Test to gauge your orientation.

And before you ridicule me, these sexual orientation tests and kiss a boy then a girl fun is all over teen social influencers sites, tweets and instagrams.

Jeez. After reading this, I feel like I'm 100 years old. Or 1000 years old.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What planet and what decade did middle schooler not talk about dating/who they like?

Not the OP, but in my experience, this group of middle schoolers is not talking about who they like, as in this person or that person. It’s more like they feel pressured, starting at the age of 11-12, to figure out and publicly identify both their gender identity and sexual orientation. And it’s all very hypothetical at this point, i.e. not based on actual crushes, but more about which group you want to align yourself with based on styles and tastes. This absolutely has not been a widespread thing in decades past.

Really? Do when you were growing up 11-12 year olds who were not interested in dating were not pressured to identify “who they liked”? They were not pressured to “go together”. 7th- 8th graders were not pressured to kiss somebody? Nobody played spin the bottle even if they didn’t care to kiss anybody?

Girls were not called tomboys, boys were not called “Tom girls”.

Boys were called “gay” or “f@g” if they did not act jock?

Your just remember it in a way you think is “normal” because hetero pressure is just normal to you.

I didn’t kiss anyone til I was 16 and never once played spin the bottle or was pressured to go with anyone. I was the quiet, studious girl who boys paid no attention to. (But I secretly had crushes on boys.) In today’s world, based on my observations among my DD’s friends, I’m pretty sure I would feel the obligation to identify as asexual, pansexual or lesbian, to keep my options open and ensure that I wasn’t acting in any sort of -phobic way. Don’t even try to tell me this is how it’s always been.

Our children go to a school with class trips and overnights and dances. It’s a total mess and waste of energy in the fall about what girl/girls, boy/boys, girl/boys are going to match up. Skies the limit.
Same for the tent overnights. Everyone body thinking they. Red to be experimenting with everybody. Truly bizarre.

We told our kids to date kids not from their school. Too awkward.

One month girl A is dating or kissing Boy A, then a few months later is “kissing Girl B” and the back to Boy A or B, etc. It’s ruining friendships too, since things turn bad once denied or broken up. Soon no one will be dating within the school, they alienated everyone during grades 5-8. It seems to mainly kissing or feeling up, since I’m their adolescent Brian’s that’s the Feelings Test to gauge your orientation.

And before you ridicule me, these sexual orientation tests and kiss a boy then a girl fun is all over teen social influencers sites, tweets and instagrams.

Lol girl A can kiss boy A, B , C through Z and it’s cool with you but if there is a girl A in there it’s because of social media. Oh FFS!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What planet and what decade did middle schooler not talk about dating/who they like?

Not the OP, but in my experience, this group of middle schoolers is not talking about who they like, as in this person or that person. It’s more like they feel pressured, starting at the age of 11-12, to figure out and publicly identify both their gender identity and sexual orientation. And it’s all very hypothetical at this point, i.e. not based on actual crushes, but more about which group you want to align yourself with based on styles and tastes. This absolutely has not been a widespread thing in decades past.

Really? Do when you were growing up 11-12 year olds who were not interested in dating were not pressured to identify “who they liked”? They were not pressured to “go together”. 7th- 8th graders were not pressured to kiss somebody? Nobody played spin the bottle even if they didn’t care to kiss anybody?

Girls were not called tomboys, boys were not called “Tom girls”.

Boys were called “gay” or “f@g” if they did not act jock?

Your just remember it in a way you think is “normal” because hetero pressure is just normal to you.

I didn’t kiss anyone til I was 16 and never once played spin the bottle or was pressured to go with anyone. I was the quiet, studious girl who boys paid no attention to. (But I secretly had crushes on boys.) In today’s world, based on my observations among my DD’s friends, I’m pretty sure I would feel the obligation to identify as asexual, pansexual or lesbian, to keep my options open and ensure that I wasn’t acting in any sort of -phobic way. Don’t even try to tell me this is how it’s always been.

Our children go to a school with class trips and overnights and dances. It’s a total mess and waste of energy in the fall about what girl/girls, boy/boys, girl/boys are going to match up. Skies the limit.
Same for the tent overnights. Everyone body thinking they. Red to be experimenting with everybody. Truly bizarre.

We told our kids to date kids not from their school. Too awkward.

One month girl A is dating or kissing Boy A, then a few months later is “kissing Girl B” and the back to Boy A or B, etc. It’s ruining friendships too, since things turn bad once denied or broken up. Soon no one will be dating within the school, they alienated everyone during grades 5-8. It seems to mainly kissing or feeling up, since I’m their adolescent Brian’s that’s the Feelings Test to gauge your orientation.

And before you ridicule me, these sexual orientation tests and kiss a boy then a girl fun is all over teen social influencers sites, tweets and instagrams.

Jeez. After reading this, I feel like I'm 100 years old. Or 1000 years old.

Nobody kissed in your middle school?

[Anonymous]

The name for everything in this thread is:

- identity politics.

Guess which of the two parties is exploiting identity politics for their perceived advantage?

- and which party is not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The name for everything in this thread is:

- identity politics.

Guess which of the two parties is exploiting identity politics for their perceived advantage?

- and which party is not?

Darn these political activist middle school kids! Crisis actors!

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a rising 7th grader and luckily not quite there yet. He does inundate me with all the videogame and YouTube talk though!
He seems to think it’s stupid to have so many genders - he was talking about the latest Wings of Fire book and how “they now have pronouns, oh no!” I just tell him to be very careful when discussing it with friends for fear to be labeled a bigot or whatnot. But I secretly agree with him lol

To add: I actually went so far as to tell him that it’s a fad for 99% of people talking about it. If he is the 1% who is serious about it he should come to me and I will support him. But if he just wants to fit in - fine but I won’t be going out of my way to support him, just not disparage. And he shouldn’t dismiss other people who think it’s serious for them even if he thinks it’s not. And he shouldn’t question others, except at home with me we can roll eyes together
He knows society is not too tolerant to all the homophobic and transphobic stuff, at least not where we live.

Do you think that society should tolerate homophobia and transphobia, when it literally leads to violence, murder, bullying and keeping people from getting jobs and housing, etc.? Serious question. I genuinely want to know your answer.

I am not sure I understand your question? There should be no “phobias” ideally. And definitely no violence. What I meant was - he shouldn’t say things that can be interpreted as phobic, such as “you are just falling for the fad”, even though it may be true. He should NOT say it, period.

Thank you for clarifying. I did not mean to put you on the spot, I genuinely could not tell if you wanted homophobia and transphobia to be "tolerated," even though they cause people to be directly harmed.

No, I am just against labeling any thought dissenting from “it’s so cool to talk about genders and pronouns every time, everywhere” as trans- or whatever phobia.

Shouldn't an individual who wants their name and pronouns to be used and respected be free to say so anytime, anywhere? Where and when is it "not OK" for them to do so? Should they not feel welcome and safe and respected in church, in school, in your neighborhood--where/when is it not OK? Genuine question.

I don't know what type of churches you've been a part of, but very few tolerate/acknowledge/accept lgb, much less tq, &etc.

I’ll tell you exactly what kind of church I am a part of: All Saints Lutheran in Bowie, Maryland, an ELCA church. My pastor says “All Means ALL,” and makes it clear that everyone is welcome to come as they are, and our community is a soft place to land.

I’ll also tell you that my local cousin and my local aunt go to St. Elizabeth Ann Seaton Catholic Church in Crofton, Maryland, and I have heard with my own ears the priest say that everyone is to be treated with respect and love, exactly as they are. I happen to know that this particular priest retired on July 1, but I would assume that the majority of the congregation accepts that approach, as he was the presiding priest for almost 10 years.

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Anonymous wrote:What planet and what decade did middle schooler not talk about dating/who they like?

Not the OP, but in my experience, this group of middle schoolers is not talking about who they like, as in this person or that person. It’s more like they feel pressured, starting at the age of 11-12, to figure out and publicly identify both their gender identity and sexual orientation. And it’s all very hypothetical at this point, i.e. not based on actual crushes, but more about which group you want to align yourself with based on styles and tastes. This absolutely has not been a widespread thing in decades past.

Really? Do when you were growing up 11-12 year olds who were not interested in dating were not pressured to identify “who they liked”? They were not pressured to “go together”. 7th- 8th graders were not pressured to kiss somebody? Nobody played spin the bottle even if they didn’t care to kiss anybody?

Girls were not called tomboys, boys were not called “Tom girls”.

Boys were called “gay” or “f@g” if they did not act jock?

Your just remember it in a way you think is “normal” because hetero pressure is just normal to you.

I didn’t kiss anyone til I was 16 and never once played spin the bottle or was pressured to go with anyone. I was the quiet, studious girl who boys paid no attention to. (But I secretly had crushes on boys.) In today’s world, based on my observations among my DD’s friends, I’m pretty sure I would feel the obligation to identify as asexual, pansexual or lesbian, to keep my options open and ensure that I wasn’t acting in any sort of -phobic way. Don’t even try to tell me this is how it’s always been.

Every extra eye roll just makes me that more sure that you don’t have a daughter between the ages of 12 and 15.

My daughter is 14, but you tried it. She has talked about having crushes on boys, and I know of none of her friends who are LGBTQA+, but that doesn’t mean she have friends in that community, I just don’t happen to know it. She is very aware of the broad spectrum of sexuality and gender identity, as her aunt is gay and married to a bisexual woman, and her aunt has very short hair and wears men’s clothes and goes by a rather gender neutral version of her given name (“Mere” for “Meredith”), though she still goes by she/her/hers pronouns. So my daughter knows there are a lot of discussions and discoveries happening, but she feels no pressure to be anyone other than exactly who she is. I am aware that her sexuality or gender identity could evolve, but I know that will come from her, and not from so-called “peer pressure.”

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a rising 7th grader and luckily not quite there yet. He does inundate me with all the videogame and YouTube talk though!
He seems to think it’s stupid to have so many genders - he was talking about the latest Wings of Fire book and how “they now have pronouns, oh no!” I just tell him to be very careful when discussing it with friends for fear to be labeled a bigot or whatnot. But I secretly agree with him lol

To add: I actually went so far as to tell him that it’s a fad for 99% of people talking about it. If he is the 1% who is serious about it he should come to me and I will support him. But if he just wants to fit in - fine but I won’t be going out of my way to support him, just not disparage. And he shouldn’t dismiss other people who think it’s serious for them even if he thinks it’s not. And he shouldn’t question others, except at home with me we can roll eyes together
He knows society is not too tolerant to all the homophobic and transphobic stuff, at least not where we live.

Do you think that society should tolerate homophobia and transphobia, when it literally leads to violence, murder, bullying and keeping people from getting jobs and housing, etc.? Serious question. I genuinely want to know your answer.

I am not sure I understand your question? There should be no “phobias” ideally. And definitely no violence. What I meant was - he shouldn’t say things that can be interpreted as phobic, such as “you are just falling for the fad”, even though it may be true. He should NOT say it, period.

Thank you for clarifying. I did not mean to put you on the spot, I genuinely could not tell if you wanted homophobia and transphobia to be "tolerated," even though they cause people to be directly harmed.

No, I am just against labeling any thought dissenting from “it’s so cool to talk about genders and pronouns every time, everywhere” as trans- or whatever phobia.

Shouldn't an individual who wants their name and pronouns to be used and respected be free to say so anytime, anywhere? Where and when is it "not OK" for them to do so? Should they not feel welcome and safe and respected in church, in school, in your neighborhood--where/when is it not OK? Genuine question.

They are not safe from eye rolls! Genuine answer.

Got it, so you’re teaching your kid to be a jerk. Because when a person says, “Hi, I’m Kevin,” and you roll your eyes, you’re a jerk, and there’s no other word for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What planet and what decade did middle schooler not talk about dating/who they like?

Not the OP, but in my experience, this group of middle schoolers is not talking about who they like, as in this person or that person. It’s more like they feel pressured, starting at the age of 11-12, to figure out and publicly identify both their gender identity and sexual orientation. And it’s all very hypothetical at this point, i.e. not based on actual crushes, but more about which group you want to align yourself with based on styles and tastes. This absolutely has not been a widespread thing in decades past.

Really? Do when you were growing up 11-12 year olds who were not interested in dating were not pressured to identify “who they liked”? They were not pressured to “go together”. 7th- 8th graders were not pressured to kiss somebody? Nobody played spin the bottle even if they didn’t care to kiss anybody?

Girls were not called tomboys, boys were not called “Tom girls”.

Boys were called “gay” or “f@g” if they did not act jock?

Your just remember it in a way you think is “normal” because hetero pressure is just normal to you.

I didn’t kiss anyone til I was 16 and never once played spin the bottle or was pressured to go with anyone. I was the quiet, studious girl who boys paid no attention to. (But I secretly had crushes on boys.) In today’s world, based on my observations among my DD’s friends, I’m pretty sure I would feel the obligation to identify as asexual, pansexual or lesbian, to keep my options open and ensure that I wasn’t acting in any sort of -phobic way. Don’t even try to tell me this is how it’s always been.

Our children go to a school with class trips and overnights and dances. It’s a total mess and waste of energy in the fall about what girl/girls, boy/boys, girl/boys are going to match up. Skies the limit.
Same for the tent overnights. Everyone body thinking they. Red to be experimenting with everybody. Truly bizarre.

We told our kids to date kids not from their school. Too awkward.

One month girl A is dating or kissing Boy A, then a few months later is “kissing Girl B” and the back to Boy A or B, etc. It’s ruining friendships too, since things turn bad once denied or broken up. Soon no one will be dating within the school, they alienated everyone during grades 5-8. It seems to mainly kissing or feeling up, since I’m their adolescent Brian’s that’s the Feelings Test to gauge your orientation.

And before you ridicule me, these sexual orientation tests and kiss a boy then a girl fun is all over teen social influencers sites, tweets and instagrams.

Jeez. After reading this, I feel like I'm 100 years old. Or 1000 years old.

Nobody kissed in your middle school?

Np, but no, it was not a common event in middle school. High school yes, not middle school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a rising 7th grader and luckily not quite there yet. He does inundate me with all the videogame and YouTube talk though!
He seems to think it’s stupid to have so many genders - he was talking about the latest Wings of Fire book and how “they now have pronouns, oh no!” I just tell him to be very careful when discussing it with friends for fear to be labeled a bigot or whatnot. But I secretly agree with him lol

To add: I actually went so far as to tell him that it’s a fad for 99% of people talking about it. If he is the 1% who is serious about it he should come to me and I will support him. But if he just wants to fit in - fine but I won’t be going out of my way to support him, just not disparage. And he shouldn’t dismiss other people who think it’s serious for them even if he thinks it’s not. And he shouldn’t question others, except at home with me we can roll eyes together
He knows society is not too tolerant to all the homophobic and transphobic stuff, at least not where we live.

Do you think that society should tolerate homophobia and transphobia, when it literally leads to violence, murder, bullying and keeping people from getting jobs and housing, etc.? Serious question. I genuinely want to know your answer.

I am not sure I understand your question? There should be no “phobias” ideally. And definitely no violence. What I meant was - he shouldn’t say things that can be interpreted as phobic, such as “you are just falling for the fad”, even though it may be true. He should NOT say it, period.

Thank you for clarifying. I did not mean to put you on the spot, I genuinely could not tell if you wanted homophobia and transphobia to be "tolerated," even though they cause people to be directly harmed.

No, I am just against labeling any thought dissenting from “it’s so cool to talk about genders and pronouns every time, everywhere” as trans- or whatever phobia.

Shouldn't an individual who wants their name and pronouns to be used and respected be free to say so anytime, anywhere? Where and when is it "not OK" for them to do so? Should they not feel welcome and safe and respected in church, in school, in your neighborhood--where/when is it not OK? Genuine question.

I don't know what type of churches you've been a part of, but very few tolerate/acknowledge/accept lgb, much less tq, &etc.

I’ll tell you exactly what kind of church I am a part of: All Saints Lutheran in Bowie, Maryland, an ELCA church. My pastor says “All Means ALL,” and makes it clear that everyone is welcome to come as they are, and our community is a soft place to land.

I’ll also tell you that my local cousin and my local aunt go to St. Elizabeth Ann Seaton Catholic Church in Crofton, Maryland, and I have heard with my own ears the priest say that everyone is to be treated with respect and love, exactly as they are. I happen to know that this particular priest retired on July 1, but I would assume that the majority of the congregation accepts that approach, as he was the presiding priest for almost 10 years.

Former Catholic here. The phrase they use is "love the sinner, hate the sin". No matter how kind they are about it, they consider anything outside one man, one woman a sin. And that man and woman better be married in the Church.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a rising 7th grader and luckily not quite there yet. He does inundate me with all the videogame and YouTube talk though!
He seems to think it’s stupid to have so many genders - he was talking about the latest Wings of Fire book and how “they now have pronouns, oh no!” I just tell him to be very careful when discussing it with friends for fear to be labeled a bigot or whatnot. But I secretly agree with him lol

To add: I actually went so far as to tell him that it’s a fad for 99% of people talking about it. If he is the 1% who is serious about it he should come to me and I will support him. But if he just wants to fit in - fine but I won’t be going out of my way to support him, just not disparage. And he shouldn’t dismiss other people who think it’s serious for them even if he thinks it’s not. And he shouldn’t question others, except at home with me we can roll eyes together
He knows society is not too tolerant to all the homophobic and transphobic stuff, at least not where we live.

Do you think that society should tolerate homophobia and transphobia, when it literally leads to violence, murder, bullying and keeping people from getting jobs and housing, etc.? Serious question. I genuinely want to know your answer.

I am not sure I understand your question? There should be no “phobias” ideally. And definitely no violence. What I meant was - he shouldn’t say things that can be interpreted as phobic, such as “you are just falling for the fad”, even though it may be true. He should NOT say it, period.

Thank you for clarifying. I did not mean to put you on the spot, I genuinely could not tell if you wanted homophobia and transphobia to be "tolerated," even though they cause people to be directly harmed.

No, I am just against labeling any thought dissenting from “it’s so cool to talk about genders and pronouns every time, everywhere” as trans- or whatever phobia.

Shouldn't an individual who wants their name and pronouns to be used and respected be free to say so anytime, anywhere? Where and when is it "not OK" for them to do so? Should they not feel welcome and safe and respected in church, in school, in your neighborhood--where/when is it not OK? Genuine question.

I don't know what type of churches you've been a part of, but very few tolerate/acknowledge/accept lgb, much less tq, &etc.

I’ll tell you exactly what kind of church I am a part of: All Saints Lutheran in Bowie, Maryland, an ELCA church. My pastor says “All Means ALL,” and makes it clear that everyone is welcome to come as they are, and our community is a soft place to land.

I’ll also tell you that my local cousin and my local aunt go to St. Elizabeth Ann Seaton Catholic Church in Crofton, Maryland, and I have heard with my own ears the priest say that everyone is to be treated with respect and love, exactly as they are. I happen to know that this particular priest retired on July 1, but I would assume that the majority of the congregation accepts that approach, as he was the presiding priest for almost 10 years.

Former Catholic here. The phrase they use is "love the sinner, hate the sin". No matter how kind they are about it, they consider anything outside one man, one woman a sin. And that man and woman better be married in the Church.

The Methodist Church is facing schism because the American churches support LGBT.

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Anonymous wrote:What planet and what decade did middle schooler not talk about dating/who they like?

Not the OP, but in my experience, this group of middle schoolers is not talking about who they like, as in this person or that person. It’s more like they feel pressured, starting at the age of 11-12, to figure out and publicly identify both their gender identity and sexual orientation. And it’s all very hypothetical at this point, i.e. not based on actual crushes, but more about which group you want to align yourself with based on styles and tastes. This absolutely has not been a widespread thing in decades past.

Really? Do when you were growing up 11-12 year olds who were not interested in dating were not pressured to identify “who they liked”? They were not pressured to “go together”. 7th- 8th graders were not pressured to kiss somebody? Nobody played spin the bottle even if they didn’t care to kiss anybody?

Girls were not called tomboys, boys were not called “Tom girls”.

Boys were called “gay” or “f@g” if they did not act jock?

Your just remember it in a way you think is “normal” because hetero pressure is just normal to you.

I didn’t kiss anyone til I was 16 and never once played spin the bottle or was pressured to go with anyone. I was the quiet, studious girl who boys paid no attention to. (But I secretly had crushes on boys.) In today’s world, based on my observations among my DD’s friends, I’m pretty sure I would feel the obligation to identify as asexual, pansexual or lesbian, to keep my options open and ensure that I wasn’t acting in any sort of -phobic way. Don’t even try to tell me this is how it’s always been.

Our children go to a school with class trips and overnights and dances. It’s a total mess and waste of energy in the fall about what girl/girls, boy/boys, girl/boys are going to match up. Skies the limit.
Same for the tent overnights. Everyone body thinking they. Red to be experimenting with everybody. Truly bizarre.

We told our kids to date kids not from their school. Too awkward.

One month girl A is dating or kissing Boy A, then a few months later is “kissing Girl B” and the back to Boy A or B, etc. It’s ruining friendships too, since things turn bad once denied or broken up. Soon no one will be dating within the school, they alienated everyone during grades 5-8. It seems to mainly kissing or feeling up, since I’m their adolescent Brian’s that’s the Feelings Test to gauge your orientation.

And before you ridicule me, these sexual orientation tests and kiss a boy then a girl fun is all over teen social influencers sites, tweets and instagrams.

Jeez. After reading this, I feel like I'm 100 years old. Or 1000 years old.

Nobody kissed in your middle school?

Np, but no, it was not a common event in middle school. High school yes, not middle school.

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You experience is not the norm.

[Anonymous]

I’m with you, OP. I think kids are attempting to find/create their identity and hook onto labels as a way to do this. I think it’s great that kids are more accepting but I do wish they, and our social world right now, would be less into “gotcha” moments and creating labels as a means to elevate oneself over others.

I mean, I get it. I thought reading Sylvia Plath poetry and dying my hair a wacky color made me interesting as a teen. But, yes, it is exhausting and pretty silly.

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Anonymous wrote:It is exhausting. I just had a FTM trans kid telling me to change the way I talked about Roe and "women" yesterday to say something like "people who can become pregnant." I really can't even deal with talking about women's rights being considered transphobic. Like, enough.

It’s exhausting to say women and other people who can become pregnant ?

It’s like how exhausting it was to say congressperson instead of congressman, mail carrier instead of mail man, trash truck driver instead of trash man, spokes person instead of spokesman,

Sit down and rest this is all too much.

Oh, for goodness sake. This is why Democrats are going to lose elections this November. Because they aren't allowed to talk about abortion as a women's rights issue. People care about inflation, global warming, gun control, access to health care... when Democrats start fixating on changing signs by restaurant restrooms, they lose voters. Not because the majority of voters are against changing the signs, but because the majority of voters simply do not care about those things.

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Anonymous wrote:If rules must be put in place just to make you feel affirmed and if “deadnaming” and “misgendering” feel like a form of murder, and if you need the whole world to enforce your perception of yourself, perhaps you should consider why your self-identity is so incredibly fragile.

Most of us don’t have this problem. We aren’t going to melt or die if someone uses the wrong name or pronoun. We are totally secure in our identity. We don’t need anyone to affirm it. So why is your identity so brittle and fragile and weak? Have you asked yourself this question?

this has nothing to do with identity - it's a power trip. making others do exactly what you want elevates you above them. the people who everybody is afraid to offend are the most powerful.