Wake up local Boards of Education

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this can happen in San Francisco, it can happen here.

https://wtop.com/lifestyle/2022/02/san-francisco-votes-on-citys-scandal-plagued-school-board-2/

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco residents recalled three members of the city’s school board Tuesday for what critics called misplaced priorities and putting progressive politics over the needs of children during the pandemic.

Voters overwhelmingly approved the recall in a special election, according to tallies by the San Francisco Department of Elections.

This is wishful thinking.

The LCPS recall will fail. It's nominally about the presence of two Board members in a Facebook group (with thousands of members) where there was some thread about identifying people campaigning against anti-racism policies in LCPS (i.e., people wanted to call out the racists). The argument is that they violated open meetings laws by being members of this group where this was discussed. It took MONTHS to get 10% of the voters to sign the recall petition, so people aren't exactly clamoring for this. The technical basis for the recall is flimsy at best -- really, this is an attempt to recall people based on ideological/policy reasons, which is not permitted under Virginia law.

Around the country in November, candidates who ran for school board by ranting about "CRT" were soundly rejected. It will be even harder for such people in the next cycle as people observe the disaster that has been the Youngkin administration in its first month -- he's been a national embarrassment. The fixation on "CRT" is also not even a national thing, just the figment of the niche right-wing media. People either don't care or would LIKE to see its concepts taught.

While the anti-mask furor is similarly niche -- anti-mask people are extremely outspoken but very much in the minority, the resentment over school closures is real. But, we're well passed that now.

To the degree that districts mess with advanced education programs, however, there could be blowback on boards. One of the main reasons Youngkin won in Virginia is Asian-American populations upset about Math Pathways and TJ voted for him. There's some truth to this but it will really only be a factor in places where these communities are large enough to sway an election at the margins.

Wow. Amazing that someone so incredibly cut off from reality can spout these predictions with such confidence. So much of your post is absolute fantasy. I have a feeling this November is going to be quite a shock to your system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Republicans are far better at messaging, but democrats think they have a mandate to right perceived injustices. Republicans are going to clean sweep in 2022

+1 exactly.

Dems can't seem to read the room. Rs are better at that. For better or worse, Rs know how to tap into anger, while Dems are way too kumbaya and blind to how their hyper focus on all things race and gender related is enraging other groups. They remind me of Richard Gere's speech during the 9/11 concert. He also couldn't read the room and got booed off the stage.

And that's why Ds will lose 2022, and probably 2024.

DP. I completely agree with you - except for the kumbaya Dems part. I think liberal Democrats are actually quite hateful, not "kumbaya" at all. Issues of race and gender now have them screaming at anyone who disagrees that they're a "racist/white supremacist/insert insult". They are far more divisive in their pitting of one group against another group. They do certainly *pretend* to be kumbaya and "uniting," though - those "Hate has no home here" BS signs are a dead giveaway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Republicans are far better at messaging, but democrats think they have a mandate to right perceived injustices. Republicans are going to clean sweep in 2022

+1 exactly.

Dems can't seem to read the room. Rs are better at that. For better or worse, Rs know how to tap into anger, while Dems are way too kumbaya and blind to how their hyper focus on all things race and gender related is enraging other groups. They remind me of Richard Gere's speech during the 9/11 concert. He also couldn't read the room and got booed off the stage.

And that's why Ds will lose 2022, and probably 2024.

DP. I completely agree with you - except for the kumbaya Dems part. I think liberal Democrats are actually quite hateful, not "kumbaya" at all. Issues of race and gender now have them screaming at anyone who disagrees that they're a "racist/white supremacist/insert insult". They are far more divisive in their pitting of one group against another group. They do certainly *pretend* to be kumbaya and "uniting," though - those "Hate has no home here" BS signs are a dead giveaway.

Well it’s true that the Ds engage in hateful culture wars too. I wish the extremes didn’t get so much attention. Most people are probably in the middle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ PP here. That isn’t an exclusive list of my issues with the Democrats either. I’m just saying the Democrats have lost me. I can’t vote for insurrection supporting traitors either, though.

I am a Democrat who is not happy with my local school board either but I cannot in any way support the other side-book bans, pro-voucher/charters at the expense of public education, intense fear mongering. The constant posting by right wing folks on these forums has made it so I would definitely never support them. I am hoping that Democrats get a freaking clue and actually put out sensible/pro academics candidates going forward. And that people with common sense run for local School Boards. School board candidates should be non-partisan and not endorsed by any political party. It's crazy that it isn't the case.

I won't try to argue all of these issues with you, but surely you realize that parents asking for a book to be removed from a government sponsored school library is not the same as book banning. You may be OK giving your child a graphic novel of young boys performing oral sex, which is your right, but you should be able to understand that some people would not want their children given this book at school. If you want it, go to the public library or the book store.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is also an acknowledgement of the Anti-Asian racism that has come to dominate progressive Democrat politics. One of those ousted, Alison Collins called merit-based admissions racist (https://www.newsweek.com/school-called-racist-san-francisco-1566895). This is exactly what is being played out in the DMV area at the behest of the progressives and to the detriment of Asian-Americans.

The days of the Democrats taking Asian votes for granted are over.

I agree - but Asians are going to need to start speaking out about this. Not to mention, voting for Republicans.

This Asian woman right here will NEVER vote for another Democrat. I’m done. Used to be a regular Democrat voter, but it is clear that they no longer want my vote. Will find other options.

Makes sense.

I am a Democratic white voter who doesn’t feel like I have a political home these days. I can’t vote for Trump Republicans and their traitorous insurrection, but the Democrats have lost me with their school closures, anti-Asian racism, how they’ve handled some trans issues, destruction of education, and anti-Semitism.

I am not sure exactly what to do. If I had been in VA for the last governor election I probably wouldn’t have voted at all.

I’m the PP. I would have voted for Youngkin in a heartbeat and I think he’s doing a good job.

I’m interested in DeSantis and I hope the Republican put forth a strong Republican candidate in the next presidential election. I think he/she would win by a landslide.

I totally don't get any of those arguments the "I'm a Democrat but... " PP made above.
- The schools aren't closed
- How are Democrats responsible for anti-Asian racism? Were they the ones going around saying "kng flu?"
- There were definitely some bad missteps in how the Loudon trans case was handled but there was a lot of right wing dishonesty too. School board properly referred it to the police and was legally prohibited from disclosing any details but that was weaponized against them by the right wing.
- How is the left destroying education and what has the right wing proposed that's better? The right wing hates universities, attacked K-12 standards, wants to completely gut public school education and funnel all of the money into privately run Christian schools.
- How is the left anti-Semitic? By doing things like criticizing Netanyahu's policies and criticizing illegal Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory? Sorry but that's that's policy debate, not anti-Semitism.

The right fringes can be blatantly anti semitic and anti Asian. The left is more insidious about it - which I actually think is worse. You haven’t even noticed the anti Asian taste to the TJ thing.

Anyone remember China Flu? Is the head of a part the fringe now?

I think you are more racist if you think that a criticism of the nation of China is the same as a Asian racism. You should also look at who all of the attackers of Asian were. They definitely weren't wearing Maga hats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Republicans are far better at messaging, but democrats think they have a mandate to right perceived injustices. Republicans are going to clean sweep in 2022

+1 exactly.

Dems can't seem to read the room. Rs are better at that. For better or worse, Rs know how to tap into anger, while Dems are way too kumbaya and blind to how their hyper focus on all things race and gender related is enraging other groups. They remind me of Richard Gere's speech during the 9/11 concert. He also couldn't read the room and got booed off the stage.

And that's why Ds will lose 2022, and probably 2024.

DP. I completely agree with you - except for the kumbaya Dems part. I think liberal Democrats are actually quite hateful, not "kumbaya" at all. Issues of race and gender now have them screaming at anyone who disagrees that they're a "racist/white supremacist/insert insult". They are far more divisive in their pitting of one group against another group. They do certainly *pretend* to be kumbaya and "uniting," though - those "Hate has no home here" BS signs are a dead giveaway.

Yea I mean I've seen Democrats call Asians "white supremacy adjacent" which is a really odd insult to invent. Literally anyone can run afoul of the progressive message and be called a racist or racist-ish.

[Anonymous]

Lifelong democrat and can't wait to vote fcps board members out.

[Anonymous]

What really matters is the swing voters and their perceptions. I was at one point registered Democrat, changed to Independent, now vote and fund Republicans but am not yet changing my voter registration. Aside from abortion, I can’t think of a single Democratic policy agenda that would make up for:
Masks on kids - my youngest is having social issues due to this
CRT/obsession with race - look at the MCPS race survey among other examples
Removal of merit based education - my oldest is a top scorer and is telling me how the kids she’s with aren’t that smart, so I explained the lottery to her
Trans rights = those of women - I will never support this in sports or otherwise, you might as well end women’s sports if you do
Obsession with “Karens” - misogyny
Obsession with race but only African Americans - none cares about Asian, middle eastern, Hispanic …..
Failure to tax billionaires - republicans won’t do this either but the Democrats only pay lip service
Hatred of white people - no, I’m not voting for a party full of educated whites who are obsessed with navel grazing about their privilege

It is quite telling that someone keeps posting about the insurrection on this thread when I’m not voting for a party that supported race based riots and looting for weeks across major US cities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What really matters is the swing voters and their perceptions. I was at one point registered Democrat, changed to Independent, now vote and fund Republicans but am not yet changing my voter registration. Aside from abortion, I can’t think of a single Democratic policy agenda that would make up for:
Masks on kids - my youngest is having social issues due to this
CRT/obsession with race - look at the MCPS race survey among other examples
Removal of merit based education - my oldest is a top scorer and is telling me how the kids she’s with aren’t that smart, so I explained the lottery to her
Trans rights = those of women - I will never support this in sports or otherwise, you might as well end women’s sports if you do
Obsession with “Karens” - misogyny
Obsession with race but only African Americans - none cares about Asian, middle eastern, Hispanic …..
Failure to tax billionaires - republicans won’t do this either but the Democrats only pay lip service
Hatred of white people - no, I’m not voting for a party full of educated whites who are obsessed with navel grazing about their privilege

It is quite telling that someone keeps posting about the insurrection on this thread when I’m not voting for a party that supported race based riots and looting for weeks across major US cities.

It's so weird to me when so called former Democrats parrot all the talking points of Fox et al (hatred of white people??). Like it almost seems like a talking point now (I was a Democrat and then I saw the light and found the GOP!). It just seems odd because if you were ever a Democrat, how can you support the GOP in its current state?
By the way, I am an unhappy Democrat. But I will be damned if I don't think the GOP has lots its marbles/is even worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What really matters is the swing voters and their perceptions. I was at one point registered Democrat, changed to Independent, now vote and fund Republicans but am not yet changing my voter registration. Aside from abortion, I can’t think of a single Democratic policy agenda that would make up for:
Masks on kids - my youngest is having social issues due to this
CRT/obsession with race - look at the MCPS race survey among other examples
Removal of merit based education - my oldest is a top scorer and is telling me how the kids she’s with aren’t that smart, so I explained the lottery to her
Trans rights = those of women - I will never support this in sports or otherwise, you might as well end women’s sports if you do
Obsession with “Karens” - misogyny
Obsession with race but only African Americans - none cares about Asian, middle eastern, Hispanic …..
Failure to tax billionaires - republicans won’t do this either but the Democrats only pay lip service
Hatred of white people - no, I’m not voting for a party full of educated whites who are obsessed with navel grazing about their privilege

It is quite telling that someone keeps posting about the insurrection on this thread when I’m not voting for a party that supported race based riots and looting for weeks across major US cities.

It's so weird to me when so called former Democrats parrot all the talking points of Fox et al (hatred of white people??). Like it almost seems like a talking point now (I was a Democrat and then I saw the light and found the GOP!). It just seems odd because if you were ever a Democrat, how can you support the GOP in its current state?
By the way, I am an unhappy Democrat. But I will be damned if I don't think the GOP has lots its marbles/is even worse.

Yeah that’s the problem - they’re both problematic. Ugh. I’m trying to vote on people now not parties. I am smarter than a sample ballot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ PP here. That isn’t an exclusive list of my issues with the Democrats either. I’m just saying the Democrats have lost me. I can’t vote for insurrection supporting traitors either, though.

I am a Democrat who is not happy with my local school board either but I cannot in any way support the other side-book bans, pro-voucher/charters at the expense of public education, intense fear mongering. The constant posting by right wing folks on these forums has made it so I would definitely never support them. I am hoping that Democrats get a freaking clue and actually put out sensible/pro academics candidates going forward. And that people with common sense run for local School Boards. School board candidates should be non-partisan and not endorsed by any political party. It's crazy that it isn't the case.

I won't try to argue all of these issues with you, but surely you realize that parents asking for a book to be removed from a government sponsored school library is not the same as book banning. You may be OK giving your child a graphic novel of young boys performing oral sex, which is your right, but you should be able to understand that some people would not want their children given this book at school. If you want it, go to the public library or the book store.

+100
I can't believe the lack of utter common sense. And the same people hypocritically ignore the LWNJs who actually *did* want to ban "Irreversible Damage." They didn't want Amazon or Target to sell it, and both companies temporarily acquiesced to the left-wing mob mentality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Republicans are far better at messaging, but democrats think they have a mandate to right perceived injustices. Republicans are going to clean sweep in 2022

+1 exactly.

Dems can't seem to read the room. Rs are better at that. For better or worse, Rs know how to tap into anger, while Dems are way too kumbaya and blind to how their hyper focus on all things race and gender related is enraging other groups. They remind me of Richard Gere's speech during the 9/11 concert. He also couldn't read the room and got booed off the stage.

And that's why Ds will lose 2022, and probably 2024.

DP. I completely agree with you - except for the kumbaya Dems part. I think liberal Democrats are actually quite hateful, not "kumbaya" at all. Issues of race and gender now have them screaming at anyone who disagrees that they're a "racist/white supremacist/insert insult". They are far more divisive in their pitting of one group against another group. They do certainly *pretend* to be kumbaya and "uniting," though - those "Hate has no home here" BS signs are a dead giveaway.

Yea I mean I've seen Democrats call Asians "white supremacy adjacent" which is a really odd insult to invent. Literally anyone can run afoul of the progressive message and be called a racist or racist-ish.

+1
We see this here on DCUM all the time. Dare to disagree with a far-left opinion and you're immediately labeled "racist, white supremacist," etc. I have to remember that these nutters are the tiny minority. Normal, sane people do not behave, or even think this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What really matters is the swing voters and their perceptions. I was at one point registered Democrat, changed to Independent, now vote and fund Republicans but am not yet changing my voter registration. Aside from abortion, I can’t think of a single Democratic policy agenda that would make up for:
Masks on kids - my youngest is having social issues due to this
CRT/obsession with race - look at the MCPS race survey among other examples
Removal of merit based education - my oldest is a top scorer and is telling me how the kids she’s with aren’t that smart, so I explained the lottery to her
Trans rights = those of women - I will never support this in sports or otherwise, you might as well end women’s sports if you do
Obsession with “Karens” - misogyny
Obsession with race but only African Americans - none cares about Asian, middle eastern, Hispanic …..
Failure to tax billionaires - republicans won’t do this either but the Democrats only pay lip service
Hatred of white people - no, I’m not voting for a party full of educated whites who are obsessed with navel grazing about their privilege

It is quite telling that someone keeps posting about the insurrection on this thread when I’m not voting for a party that supported race based riots and looting for weeks across major US cities.

+ a million
Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ PP here. That isn’t an exclusive list of my issues with the Democrats either. I’m just saying the Democrats have lost me. I can’t vote for insurrection supporting traitors either, though.

I am a Democrat who is not happy with my local school board either but I cannot in any way support the other side-book bans, pro-voucher/charters at the expense of public education, intense fear mongering. The constant posting by right wing folks on these forums has made it so I would definitely never support them. I am hoping that Democrats get a freaking clue and actually put out sensible/pro academics candidates going forward. And that people with common sense run for local School Boards. School board candidates should be non-partisan and not endorsed by any political party. It's crazy that it isn't the case.

I won't try to argue all of these issues with you, but surely you realize that parents asking for a book to be removed from a government sponsored school library is not the same as book banning. You may be OK giving your child a graphic novel of young boys performing oral sex, which is your right, but you should be able to understand that some people would not want their children given this book at school. If you want it, go to the public library or the book store.

Hey, I thought the approach was you should be able to choose to mask, how about you should be able to choose what you will read?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What really matters is the swing voters and their perceptions. I was at one point registered Democrat, changed to Independent, now vote and fund Republicans but am not yet changing my voter registration. Aside from abortion, I can’t think of a single Democratic policy agenda that would make up for:
Masks on kids - my youngest is having social issues due to this
CRT/obsession with race - look at the MCPS race survey among other examples
Removal of merit based education - my oldest is a top scorer and is telling me how the kids she’s with aren’t that smart, so I explained the lottery to her
Trans rights = those of women - I will never support this in sports or otherwise, you might as well end women’s sports if you do
Obsession with “Karens” - misogyny
Obsession with race but only African Americans - none cares about Asian, middle eastern, Hispanic …..
Failure to tax billionaires - republicans won’t do this either but the Democrats only pay lip service
Hatred of white people - no, I’m not voting for a party full of educated whites who are obsessed with navel grazing about their privilege

It is quite telling that someone keeps posting about the insurrection on this thread when I’m not voting for a party that supported race based riots and looting for weeks across major US cities.

It's so weird to me when so called former Democrats parrot all the talking points of Fox et al (hatred of white people??). Like it almost seems like a talking point now (I was a Democrat and then I saw the light and found the GOP!). It just seems odd because if you were ever a Democrat, how can you support the GOP in its current state?
By the way, I am an unhappy Democrat. But I will be damned if I don't think the GOP has lots its marbles/is even worse.

I doubt I’ll ever join the GOP but I did quit the local Democratic Party over their far-left policies and constant badgering to support our local School Board, which is composed of hypocrites and buffoons. Happy to be an independent now and vote for more Republicans in local and state elections without having to take on the baggage of defending Trump, MTG, etc. Wish we had better choices but there’s no way in hell I’m going to vote to leave the Democrats in total control of local government.