Wake up local Boards of Education

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

What’s your take?

For one thing, they overshot their budget by $100M.

This isn’t about masks.

1. They eliminated neighborhood schools so that any kid could basically get assigned to any school, anywhere in the city at random.

2. They changed names of schools for bizarre reasons, making the city a national joke.

3. They changed entry for the vaunted Lincoln HS from merit-based to lottery.

And there’s more. Just totally out of touch and incompetent.

Also they removed one of the now-recalled commissioners as VP of the board for her racist tweets, then she turned around and sued the school district for $87M. And another of the now-recalled commissioners stood by her.

These are not issues which you can extrapolate all over the country, people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

What’s your take?

For one thing, they overshot their budget by $100M.

This isn’t about masks.

1. They eliminated neighborhood schools so that any kid could basically get assigned to any school, anywhere in the city at random.

2. They changed names of schools for bizarre reasons, making the city a national joke.

3. They changed entry for the vaunted Lincoln HS from merit-based to lottery.

And there’s more. Just totally out of touch and incompetent.

Also they removed one of the now-recalled commissioners as VP of the board for her racist tweets, then she turned around and sued the school district for $87M. And another of the now-recalled commissioners stood by her.

These are not issues which you can extrapolate all over the country, people.

Lowell HS. Not Lincoln.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

What’s your take?

For one thing, they overshot their budget by $100M.

This isn’t about masks.

1. They eliminated neighborhood schools so that any kid could basically get assigned to any school, anywhere in the city at random.

2. They changed names of schools for bizarre reasons, making the city a national joke.

3. They changed entry for the vaunted Lincoln HS from merit-based to lottery.

And there’s more. Just totally out of touch and incompetent.

Also they removed one of the now-recalled commissioners as VP of the board for her racist tweets, then she turned around and sued the school district for $87M. And another of the now-recalled commissioners stood by her.

These are not issues which you can extrapolate all over the country, people.

School boundaries and lotteries for enrichment programs are very much a salient issue in Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

so enlighten us then, why were the board members recalled?

This thread covers most of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

What’s your take?

For one thing, they overshot their budget by $100M.

This isn’t about masks.

1. They eliminated neighborhood schools so that any kid could basically get assigned to any school, anywhere in the city at random.

2. They changed names of schools for bizarre reasons, making the city a national joke.

3. They changed entry for the vaunted Lincoln HS from merit-based to lottery.

And there’s more. Just totally out of touch and incompetent.

Also they removed one of the now-recalled commissioners as VP of the board for her racist tweets, then she turned around and sued the school district for $87M. And another of the now-recalled commissioners stood by her.

These are not issues which you can extrapolate all over the country, people.

School boundaries and lotteries for enrichment programs are very much a salient issue in Montgomery County.

There is an enormous difference between boundary reviews (which are never popular) and just eliminating boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this can happen in San Francisco, it can happen here.

https://wtop.com/lifestyle/2022/02/san-francisco-votes-on-citys-scandal-plagued-school-board-2/

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco residents recalled three members of the city’s school board Tuesday for what critics called misplaced priorities and putting progressive politics over the needs of children during the pandemic.

Voters overwhelmingly approved the recall in a special election, according to tallies by the San Francisco Department of Elections.

Yawn. They were incompetent and were recalled for that reason. There are major issues with the school district and they tried to do things like renaming schools hoping it would distract people.

This just shows the right wing bias in our media. Same with youngkin win. Terry McAuliffe was a moderate democrats who lost running on moderate democratic issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

What’s your take?

For one thing, they overshot their budget by $100M.

This isn’t about masks.

1. They eliminated neighborhood schools so that any kid could basically get assigned to any school, anywhere in the city at random.

2. They changed names of schools for bizarre reasons, making the city a national joke.

3. They changed entry for the vaunted Lincoln HS from merit-based to lottery.

And there’s more. Just totally out of touch and incompetent.

And all of that happened while the schools were closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

so enlighten us then, why were the board members recalled?

This thread covers most of it.

I’m in the SF Bay Area now and grew up there and I could not disagree more with that twitter thread. First, school closures were a big driver of the recall: the school closures happened when SF had one of the lowest Covid rates in the country. My parent friends in SF were all livid, as were most other people I know, even those without kids. It was frankly absurd. Second, that twitter thread deliberately downplays the “old tweets” that were brought forward. The author is hiding the fact that the tweets by Collins (recalled board member) were overtly racist against Asians. And she refused to apologize for them. Then she brought a $87m frivolous lawsuit, all while overrunning the school budget by $100m. Then, the school board decided to change admissions for Lowell which has a very long history of being a vehicle for excellent education, especially for poor Asian immigrants. Meanwhile the school board that could not get kids in school spent a fortune renaming Abraham Lincoln HS.

Some of this is indeed specific to SF. But some of it is not. School closures, anti-Asian racism, changes in admissions policies, etc. are all more generalized.

Nobody here is freaking out about masks, though. In general people think that is stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this can happen in San Francisco, it can happen here.

https://wtop.com/lifestyle/2022/02/san-francisco-votes-on-citys-scandal-plagued-school-board-2/

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco residents recalled three members of the city’s school board Tuesday for what critics called misplaced priorities and putting progressive politics over the needs of children during the pandemic.

Voters overwhelmingly approved the recall in a special election, according to tallies by the San Francisco Department of Elections.

Yawn. They were incompetent and were recalled for that reason. There are major issues with the school district and they tried to do things like renaming schools hoping it would distract people.

This just shows the right wing bias in our media. Same with youngkin win. Terry McAuliffe was a moderate democrats who lost running on moderate democratic issues.

Surely you can't be serious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

What’s your take?

For one thing, they overshot their budget by $100M.

This isn’t about masks.

1. They eliminated neighborhood schools so that any kid could basically get assigned to any school, anywhere in the city at random.

2. They changed names of schools for bizarre reasons, making the city a national joke.

3. They changed entry for the vaunted Lincoln HS from merit-based to lottery.

And there’s more. Just totally out of touch and incompetent.

And all of that happened while the schools were closed.

Yes, and the recall was about all of that, not about the schools being closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

so enlighten us then, why were the board members recalled?

This thread covers most of it.

I’m in the SF Bay Area now and grew up there and I could not disagree more with that twitter thread. First, school closures were a big driver of the recall: the school closures happened when SF had one of the lowest Covid rates in the country. My parent friends in SF were all livid, as were most other people I know, even those without kids. It was frankly absurd. Second, that twitter thread deliberately downplays the “old tweets” that were brought forward. The author is hiding the fact that the tweets by Collins (recalled board member) were overtly racist against Asians. And she refused to apologize for them. Then she brought a $87m frivolous lawsuit, all while overrunning the school budget by $100m. Then, the school board decided to change admissions for Lowell which has a very long history of being a vehicle for excellent education, especially for poor Asian immigrants. Meanwhile the school board that could not get kids in school spent a fortune renaming Abraham Lincoln HS.

Some of this is indeed specific to SF. But some of it is not. School closures, anti-Asian racism, changes in admissions policies, etc. are all more generalized.

Nobody here is freaking out about masks, though. In general people think that is stupid.

Thank you for this succinct summary which I think explains it in detail. It’s important to recognize that they were incompetent, but also that they were ideologically motivated in ways that ran counter current to what the median SF resident wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

What’s your take?

For one thing, they overshot their budget by $100M.

This isn’t about masks.

1. They eliminated neighborhood schools so that any kid could basically get assigned to any school, anywhere in the city at random.

2. They changed names of schools for bizarre reasons, making the city a national joke.

3. They changed entry for the vaunted Lincoln HS from merit-based to lottery.

And there’s more. Just totally out of touch and incompetent.

Also they removed one of the now-recalled commissioners as VP of the board for her racist tweets, then she turned around and sued the school district for $87M. And another of the now-recalled commissioners stood by her.

These are not issues which you can extrapolate all over the country, people.

School boundaries and lotteries for enrichment programs are very much a salient issue in Montgomery County.

There is an enormous difference between boundary reviews (which are never popular) and just eliminating boundaries

And what if changing “gifted” programs from merit based to lottery based?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

What’s your take?

For one thing, they overshot their budget by $100M.

This isn’t about masks.

1. They eliminated neighborhood schools so that any kid could basically get assigned to any school, anywhere in the city at random.

2. They changed names of schools for bizarre reasons, making the city a national joke.

3. They changed entry for the vaunted Lincoln HS from merit-based to lottery.

And there’s more. Just totally out of touch and incompetent.

Also they removed one of the now-recalled commissioners as VP of the board for her racist tweets, then she turned around and sued the school district for $87M. And another of the now-recalled commissioners stood by her.

These are not issues which you can extrapolate all over the country, people.

Lowell HS. Not Lincoln.

Yes. They renamed Lincoln HS because it was somehow racist(?) but it was Lowell that was changed from merit to lottery based admissions.

[Anonymous]

One thing also to know was that this recall won in every single SF district. That includes the Mission, Western Addition, and North Bernal Heights. In other words, it won in the wealthiest districts, the most conservative districts, and the poorest districts. It is absolutely not the case that this was divided by political allegiances. It was an enormously popular recall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all have no idea what the actual issues in SF were. I knew this site was going to be full of terrible takes on this today.

so enlighten us then, why were the board members recalled?

This thread covers most of it.

I’m in the SF Bay Area now and grew up there and I could not disagree more with that twitter thread. First, school closures were a big driver of the recall: the school closures happened when SF had one of the lowest Covid rates in the country. My parent friends in SF were all livid, as were most other people I know, even those without kids. It was frankly absurd. Second, that twitter thread deliberately downplays the “old tweets” that were brought forward. The author is hiding the fact that the tweets by Collins (recalled board member) were overtly racist against Asians. And she refused to apologize for them. Then she brought a $87m frivolous lawsuit, all while overrunning the school budget by $100m. Then, the school board decided to change admissions for Lowell which has a very long history of being a vehicle for excellent education, especially for poor Asian immigrants. Meanwhile the school board that could not get kids in school spent a fortune renaming Abraham Lincoln HS.

Some of this is indeed specific to SF. But some of it is not. School closures, anti-Asian racism, changes in admissions policies, etc. are all more generalized.

Nobody here is freaking out about masks, though. In general people think that is stupid.

Thank you for this succinct summary which I think explains it in detail. It’s important to recognize that they were incompetent, but also that they were ideologically motivated in ways that ran counter current to what the median SF resident wanted.

You are welcome.

If I lived in the city I would have voted for it for sure. The anti-Asian racism alone would have done it for me.