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Anonymous wrote:St. Athanasius in Vienna. They don't follow Vatican II and are friendly with (though not officially part of) SSPX. They have an affiliated school, St. Anthony Academy, that follows a curriculum straight out of the Middle Ages.

Holy hell, you weren't exaggerating! That's even how they describe it.

"Children in this younger stage love the chance to memorize and it is foolish not to take advantage of this opportunity...Mastery of the Grammar stage requires large amounts of memorization and this should be done when memorization is easy and agreeable. Thus, our younger students are taught to store away in memory large amounts of information which they do not yet understand completely. "

Whoa, it gets worse. From their handbook:

"2) Rock music should not be listened to at home or in the car:
Much of the music in the modern culture is inappropriate for children, not only because of the rock beat, but also because of the lyrics.

6) Internet
Children younger than high school should not have access to the internet except for educational purposes, and then only with a parent present.

8) Playmates
Great care should be exercised in choices of friends for your children. Allowing them to play with children who are permitted to see and do things that you do not permit, is the same as allowing it yourself.\

...- refrain from speaking about modern movies, television shows, music, computer games or video games while at school."

Girls must wear head coverings inside the church.

I'm no Catholic, but this looks wonderful. I skimmed through the curriculum, and it looks like these kids are getting an excellent classical Catholic education. This is a prime example of Rod Drehers "Benedict Option." It's hardcore Traditional Catholicism. If you don't like it, don't send your kids there. There are Protestant schools like this as well. Conservative classical Catholic ( and Protestant) schools are the best way to counter the Leftist public education system. God bless these folks!

Anonymous wrote:It seems that excellent GPA and SAT is no longer enough. EC activities have to be supplemented with trips to teach underprivileged children in 3rd world countries. And you have to be able to afford the said trips to foreign countries. You have to know people to get internships and recommendations. All this in HS.

I just feel that I have failed my kids because this is just so overwhelming.

I didn't do any of this and I still got into some very decent schools. The vast majority of colleges will accept a kid with even slightly above average stats and a few ECs. I guess all the stuff you bring up may be needed to get into Ivys, highly ranked research universities, and "top-tier" LACs(Williams, Amherst, etc) but I had no desire to go to such places. I peruse the college forum on DCUM once or twice a week, and some of the threads on here are just weird. The obsession with the Ivys, "prestige", connections, and rankings often makes me wonder if there are people who really live this way. The Ivys, top research universities, and top-tier LACs aren't the only good schools out there. When I was looking at colleges, my decision ultimately came down to which school would provide the best academic/social experience. That's really all that matters. I'm headed to one of the Colleges that Change Lives (St. Johns), and you certainly don't need crazy ECs and connections to get into any of them. When I see this thread and threads like this one
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/631297.page
I'm thankful I don't live the lifestyle of the DCUM crowd.

As DCUMs arch-conservative anti-egalitarian Monarchist, here's what id say to conservative parents. Don't send your kid to a school that's too "conservative" or to liberal. Most of the schools that call themselves "conservative" today are just bastions of Neoconservatism. The main issue with these so-called conservative colleges is that they're way too focused on politics for my liking. Let's use Hillsdale as an example. It's advertised on all of the NeoCon talk shows( Limbaugh, Levin, Hanuty, etc) and seems to only invite NeoCons to speak there. They may invite a few Libertarians, but never someone who is truly on the Right.( Pat Buchanan, Paul Gottfried, John Derbyshire, etc) Hillsdale has statues of Reagan, Thatcher, and Churchill (all Saints of Neoconservatism) on its campus. Patrick Henry and Grove City are similar. I'd avoid these places unless you want your kid to be lectured by NeoCons for 4 years. I wanted to attend a college that would give me a strong classical education, not one that would lecture me on "American exceptionalism", the greatness of democracy, and the wonders of the free-market. A truly "conservative" college would be like what Oxford and Cambridge were in 1800. Christian, aristocratic, and devoted to the study of the Classics. No such college exists today. Look for a place where the primary goal is education, not Left-wing or NeoCon indoctrination. With mainstream colleges, you need to make sure the faculty is sane. There needs to be a good number of conservatives on the faculty. Whether the student body is Liberal or conservative does not matter. You can avoid students who are militant SJWs. If the faculty is Leftist, then conservative stdents will have a hard time. They're the ones who are going to be teaching and grading you. That's why I wouldn't go to a place like Reed.( even though the environment is really intellectual) Not only are the students Liberal, but it's faculty is overwhelmingly Liberal as well. A conservative can't survive at a place like that. When I was looking for a college, I was really looking for four things.
1. A college with an intellectual environment where EDUCATION is the primary focus( not sports, politics, social justice, or vocational training)
2. A college that would give me a strong classical education rooted in the Western canon.
3. A college where Right-wing views are tolerated, and where people with different political/religious views can co-exist.
4. A college with at least a few conservatives on its faculty
The only college I found that met all of these requirements is St. John's College in Annapolis. I'm headed there this fall.

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PaleoConPrep wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I thought you wanted to go to Hampden-Sydney and become a lawyer and politician. Out of curiosity, what changed your mind?

Well I had Idealized Hampden-Sydney as this "Southern gentlemen's" school. After doing some research and speaking to friends who know people there, I discovered that HSC is ful of kids who party, drink/get drunk, and don't care about learning. I wouldn't fit in at a place like that. I love prepdom, but I'd call myself a preppy scholar. I'm a quiet scholarly type who enjoys reading classical literature, studying political philosophy and theology, and listening to classical music. As far as politics is concerned, I'm no longer interested in ever running for any public office. This is for two reasons. First of all, over the last few months (while closely observing the election) I became much more of a realist about our political system. Donald Trump is WAY WAY WAY to the Left of me, and he's treated like a monster. Imagine what the media and the public would do to me: a fairly intellectual guy on the Far-Right. I'd have ZERO chance of winning anything. The other reason I'm no longer interested in political office is because I've totally rejected democracy as a competent form of government. I agree with H.L Mencken's view that democracy is a system in which inferior men dominate their superiors. I am now a Monarchist ideologically. I'd support a return to the old order. My ideal form of government would be a Protestant monarchy with strict social classes: aristocracy, clergy, warrior/military, merchants/white collar workers, and serfs/blue collar workers. I also support a return to traditional gender roles.(I hate all forms of Feminism) I firmly believe that "equality" is a pipe dream. No one is ever equal. Hierarchy is a natural part of society. Seeing as I'm radically anti-democratic, I'd be a massive hypocrite if I ever ran for anything. I don't want to waste my life pandering to the masses. I'd be very content with a quiet life of scholarship.

NP here. Paleo, what attracted you to this ideology and to preppy culture in particular? I'm genuinely curious and don't mean this in a snarky way; I know several self-professed paleocons who are incredibly happy with Trump.

An anti-democratic, anti-egalitarian Monarchist/aristocratic ideology is the logical conclusion of Conservatism. Democracy is by definition an egalitarian ideology, and therefore Liberal. I hate these talk radio hosts who turn the Founding Fathers into Demi-gods. I believe the founders/framers were great statesmen and excellent writers, but I oppose what they stood for. I guess I'd tolerate a Republic with a VERY limited franchise, ut Monarchism/aristocracy is preferable. If you want to get a clearer understanding of my ideology, look into Paleoconservatism and the Dark Enlightenment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_conservatism

BTW, I'm not necessarily unhappy with Trump. I was just making the point that he's WAY to the Left of me.

I see, but what about the preppy thing, to echo another PP?

Well part of it is nostalgia, and part of it is because I just like the fine, clean look that dressing preppy gives a person. It's part of my revolt against modernity? I associate prepdom with an older, more refined culture. As culture has declined, so has dress. A gentleman at Harvard in 1900 would've dressed in coat & tie on weekdays. Now, plenty of guys at Harvard probably dress in tight jeans. I see it as a tiny part of the decline of culture. BTW, I find modern "prep" culture laughable. Modern preps are usually guys who drink their faces off in frat houses. There's nothing refined about it.

Anonymous wrote:You need to drop this whole unrelenting "I am a Paleoconservative Prep Man" and just...go with the flow. It is good to know your values, but it's simply not healthy to be so wrapped up in your personal "brand"/identity.

I almost wonder if it's a control issue or OCD or anxiety or something.

oh come on

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PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought you wanted to go to Hampden-Sydney and become a lawyer and politician. Out of curiosity, what changed your mind?

Well I had Idealized Hampden-Sydney as this "Southern gentlemen's" school. After doing some research and speaking to friends who know people there, I discovered that HSC is ful of kids who party, drink/get drunk, and don't care about learning. I wouldn't fit in at a place like that. I love prepdom, but I'd call myself a preppy scholar. I'm a quiet scholarly type who enjoys reading classical literature, studying political philosophy and theology, and listening to classical music. As far as politics is concerned, I'm no longer interested in ever running for any public office. This is for two reasons. First of all, over the last few months (while closely observing the election) I became much more of a realist about our political system. Donald Trump is WAY WAY WAY to the Left of me, and he's treated like a monster. Imagine what the media and the public would do to me: a fairly intellectual guy on the Far-Right. I'd have ZERO chance of winning anything. The other reason I'm no longer interested in political office is because I've totally rejected democracy as a competent form of government. I agree with H.L Mencken's view that democracy is a system in which inferior men dominate their superiors. I am now a Monarchist ideologically. I'd support a return to the old order. My ideal form of government would be a Protestant monarchy with strict social classes: aristocracy, clergy, warrior/military, merchants/white collar workers, and serfs/blue collar workers. I also support a return to traditional gender roles.(I hate all forms of Feminism) I firmly believe that "equality" is a pipe dream. No one is ever equal. Hierarchy is a natural part of society. Seeing as I'm radically anti-democratic, I'd be a massive hypocrite if I ever ran for anything. I don't want to waste my life pandering to the masses. I'd be very content with a quiet life of scholarship.

NP here. Paleo, what attracted you to this ideology and to preppy culture in particular? I'm genuinely curious and don't mean this in a snarky way; I know several self-professed paleocons who are incredibly happy with Trump.

An anti-democratic, anti-egalitarian Monarchist/aristocratic ideology is the logical conclusion of Conservatism. Democracy is by definition an egalitarian ideology, and therefore Liberal. I hate these talk radio hosts who turn the Founding Fathers into Demi-gods. I believe the founders/framers were great statesmen and excellent writers, but I oppose what they stood for. I guess I'd tolerate a Republic with a VERY limited franchise, ut Monarchism/aristocracy is preferable. If you want to get a clearer understanding of my ideology, look into Paleoconservatism and the Dark Enlightenment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_conservatism

BTW, I'm not necessarily unhappy with Trump. I was just making the point that he's WAY to the Left of me.

Anonymous wrote:I thought you wanted to go to Hampden-Sydney and become a lawyer and politician. Out of curiosity, what changed your mind?

Well I had Idealized Hampden-Sydney as this "Southern gentlemen's" school. After doing some research and speaking to friends who know people there, I discovered that HSC is ful of kids who party, drink/get drunk, and don't care about learning. I wouldn't fit in at a place like that. I love prepdom, but I'd call myself a preppy scholar. I'm a quiet scholarly type who enjoys reading classical literature, studying political philosophy and theology, and listening to classical music. As far as politics is concerned, I'm no longer interested in ever running for any public office. This is for two reasons. First of all, over the last few months (while closely observing the election) I became much more of a realist about our political system. Donald Trump is WAY WAY WAY to the Left of me, and he's treated like a monster. Imagine what the media and the public would do to me: a fairly intellectual guy on the Far-Right. I'd have ZERO chance of winning anything. The other reason I'm no longer interested in political office is because I've totally rejected democracy as a competent form of government. I agree with H.L Mencken's view that democracy is a system in which inferior men dominate their superiors. I am now a Monarchist ideologically. I'd support a return to the old order. My ideal form of government would be a Protestant monarchy with strict social classes: aristocracy, clergy, warrior/military, merchants/white collar workers, and serfs/blue collar workers. I also support a return to traditional gender roles.(I hate all forms of Feminism) I firmly believe that "equality" is a pipe dream. No one is ever equal. Hierarchy is a natural part of society. Seeing as I'm radically anti-democratic, I'd be a massive hypocrite if I ever ran for anything. I don't want to waste my life pandering to the masses. I'd be very content with a quiet life of scholarship.

Now that I've been admitted to St. John's, I'm trying to create a plan to achieve my main goals. My ultimate goal is to get a PhD in either Classics or European History from a top program like UChicago, Columbia, Princeton, etc. with the PhD I hope to become a college professor. If a job as a professor isn't available, I'd like to become an independent scholar and start a Paleoconservative Protestant magazine, do podcasts etc.( sorta like what William F. Buckley did, or what Tom Woods is doing now) St. John's will give me a very solid foundation in the Humanities, and it's in the top2% for producing PhDs. My question is, what do top PhD programs in Classics and European History want to see from undergrads? What do I need to do to get into these programs? St. John's offers Greek, but no Latin. So I'll probably have to either do Latin over the summers or do a post-bac if I want to get into Classics.

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PaleoConPrep wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK Paleo,

Today's your day. Are you Sewanee bound??

Good luck

I was deferred. Told them "no thank you" and have withdrawn my application. No big deal. I'm headed to St. John's (Annapolis) I didn't want to play the waiting game with Sewanee. St. John's is a better fit for me academically.

Good luck Pale. St Johns is an amazing place. You should thrive there. Just curious. What do you think sunk you at Sewanee? Scores? demographics? Politics?

PaleoCon here
I don't think anything "sunk" me per se. I was deferred, not rejected. I think the main reason was probably lowish GPA. As I said, it's no big deal. I'd argue that academically, St. John's is just as strong ( if not stronger) in the Humanities than Sewanee.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought conservatives were all for free expression on college campuses?

PaleoCon here
True conservatives ARE for free expression. I don't agree with this fellow, but I don't have any problem with this guy expressing his opinion. However, Liberals will not tolerate opinions from those on the Far-Right. They want tolerance for Leftist views and Leftist views only. NeoCons are tolerated, but that's because they're Keftists in their hearts. I've been name-called on DCUM for my views.

Yes, how awful to live in a society where hate is called out as hate, instead of becoming normalized.

PaleoCon here
Calling something "hate" is not an argument. If Liberals don't realize this quickly, the Left will die in America. If you think I'm wrong, refute me. Name-calling and one-liners won't cut it anymore bud.

I know it's not typical on the travel forum to ask about this area, but I'm headed to St. John's in Annapolis in the fall. I'll have eay access to Baltimore and DC. My weeks will be full of work, but I do want to explore the area on weekends. What are some preppy hangouts (shops, restaurants, etc) in Baltimore and DC? What's the preppiest mall in the area?

I was deferred by Sewanee ED( they told me they'd look at my application again in the RD pool) I declined the offer, and have withdrawn my application. Im headed to St. John's College in Annapolis. I didn't want to play the waiting game with Sewanee. St. John's is the better academic fit for me anyway. The only advantage Sewanee had is that it has a full Classics department( St. John's requires French and Greek) St. John's has a top notch faculty ( many UChicago PhDs, several Ivy League PhDs, and some from top British universities)

Anonymous wrote:OK Paleo,

Today's your day. Are you Sewanee bound??

Good luck

I was deferred. Told them "no thank you" and have withdrawn my application. No big deal. I'm headed to St. John's (Annapolis) I didn't want to play the waiting game with Sewanee. St. John's is a better fit for me academically.

Don't get your hopes up Libs. No ones getting impeached. None of this stuff with Russia suggests that Trump himself did anything that merits impeachment. What's Libs are doing right now is similar to what the GOP did in 08 when Obama was elected.The media is just trying to make President Trump look as bad as possible. BTW, if Trump WERE impeached (which he won't be) what do you expect to happen? You think all of his supporters are just going to sit there and take it? I do believe that this country will eventually split into various states. A house divided against itself can not stand, and the division in this country will ultimately tear it apart. If you want to live in a multicultural Socialist utopia, go ahead. I don't

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised you are looking at St. John's college in Annapolis since it is hardly the hotbed for conservatism. You should more look into the Naval Academy instead.

Well I loved the place when I visited. It has a traditional curriculum centered around the Western canon, and Right-wing views are welcome and accepted.(there are several Christian tutors there) The majority of students are Liberal, but they don't seem to be the crazy/whiny type.