Wrong on both counts. Middlebury will go the way of Occidental College, which went too liberal and now has a 46.5% acceptance rate. Parents won't be willing to pay $65,000 for that kind of nonsense. Some might but most parents won't. As to Charles Murray, you obviously haven't read his works or met him or you wouldn't be making such bigoted remarks. |
For every Robert George at Princeton, there's a Peter Singer. No thanks. |
As DCUMs arch-conservative anti-egalitarian Monarchist, here's what id say to conservative parents. Don't send your kid to a school that's too "conservative" or to liberal. Most of the schools that call themselves "conservative" today are just bastions of Neoconservatism. The main issue with these so-called conservative colleges is that they're way too focused on politics for my liking. Let's use Hillsdale as an example. It's advertised on all of the NeoCon talk shows( Limbaugh, Levin, Hanuty, etc) and seems to only invite NeoCons to speak there. They may invite a few Libertarians, but never someone who is truly on the Right.( Pat Buchanan, Paul Gottfried, John Derbyshire, etc) Hillsdale has statues of Reagan, Thatcher, and Churchill (all Saints of Neoconservatism) on its campus. Patrick Henry and Grove City are similar. I'd avoid these places unless you want your kid to be lectured by NeoCons for 4 years. I wanted to attend a college that would give me a strong classical education, not one that would lecture me on "American exceptionalism", the greatness of democracy, and the wonders of the free-market. A truly "conservative" college would be like what Oxford and Cambridge were in 1800. Christian, aristocratic, and devoted to the study of the Classics. No such college exists today. Look for a place where the primary goal is education, not Left-wing or NeoCon indoctrination. With mainstream colleges, you need to make sure the faculty is sane. There needs to be a good number of conservatives on the faculty. Whether the student body is Liberal or conservative does not matter. You can avoid students who are militant SJWs. If the faculty is Leftist, then conservative stdents will have a hard time. They're the ones who are going to be teaching and grading you. That's why I wouldn't go to a place like Reed.( even though the environment is really intellectual) Not only are the students Liberal, but it's faculty is overwhelmingly Liberal as well. A conservative can't survive at a place like that. When I was looking for a college, I was really looking for four things.
1. A college with an intellectual environment where EDUCATION is the primary focus( not sports, politics, social justice, or vocational training) 2. A college that would give me a strong classical education rooted in the Western canon. 3. A college where Right-wing views are tolerated, and where people with different political/religious views can co-exist. 4. A college with at least a few conservatives on its faculty The only college I found that met all of these requirements is St. John's College in Annapolis. I'm headed there this fall. |
I cannot believe the defense of Charles Murray. I have read The Bell Curve-a book that proved to me that Murray is not a legitimate scholar. Whether he is a pleasant person is completely irrelevant to me. |
Yikes! I'm an Aggie too. Do you really think A&M is more conservative than Oral Roberts and SMU? Of course, I graduated almost 20 years ago, so I suppose things have probably changed since then. |
PP here, class of '91 (MS). I don't know about it's place on the list, but the fact that it's on the list of most conservative schools doesn't surprise me. Now, there were elements of liberalism while I was there (Touchstone newspaper, Agnostic & Atheist Student Group, Aggie Democrats) but that should be expected at any large university. Liberals were a blip on the radar there, by proportion. |
I've read his work. I wrote something bigoted? |
Can't say for sure it will go the way of Occidental. But definitely not going to pay $65,000 for what I saw happening via media but more importantly by what I read from the professor who was attacked (see the NYT article she wrote). |
While I completely agree with the sentiment (my friend's husband is the most annoying person with liberal views there ever was), the term "bigot" is inextricably linked to conservatism. We should invent another term for the left-leaning stupids. |
Hear, hear! (I'm liberal but agree with the tenets of a Classical education.) |
"Not every Republican is a bigot, but every bigot is a Republican." |
I'm a Middlebury grad and this is all so weird and sad to hear. When I was there, the student body was sooo apathetic. No one could be bothered to protest anything. Even wearing an Aids ribbon was kinda shocking. Back then, most of the students were rich white prep school kids (like myself) and skewed pretty centrist. In the past two decades the school has worked really hard to be more inclusive and welcoming to students of all walks of life (which isn't so easy when in the middle of cold, rural Vermont) while also raising the bar on admission standards. I have been impressed with their efforts. The result is that there are now many voices on the campus and more groups feel empowered to speak out. I don’t agree with what they did but I don’t this it’s emblematic of the school as a whole. |
I've read some of your posts on ultra right wing sites (some which lean towards nazism), and surprised that you would tolerate co-existing of different political views. However, everyone is entitled to different viewpoints. |
My DDs history professor told her yesterday that all Christians that did not live on the coastal democratic zone were creationists. |
And to think, you pay handsomely for that type of bigotry. Imagine what her professor really thinks, but doesn't say out loud. |