Do you think an Exit Ban could actually happen?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But not that long ago, there was. USSR, East Germany, Cuba... all authoritarian regimes.

And all on the left. Just like the democrats.

Actually, they have more in common with Trump/MAGA than progressive liberals. I mean, do you think the USSR and NK are ok with lgbtq and trans people using the gender identified bathrooms?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fevered imaginations some of you (proudly?) display are unreal.

It's sad. If the posts on this board are real, then most of the people here need real mental help. Simply delusional.

Seriously. These people are insane.

OP here.

How is talking about something insane? I am not panicked. No one here is panicking. I care deeply for this country and am curious about its direction and my family's safety in it.

My family have citizenship in another country but that doesn't make it easy to leave. We have good savings. But we also have kids in school, professional licenses that aren't recognized in other countries, aging parents, etc. So, I don't think it's at all insane to consider how things may force our cards anyway.

Much of what people were mocked for worrying about has become reality. A year ago I wasn't expecting masked militias in cities, throwing people in concentration camps and joking about alligators eating them. THAT is insane.

Your entire last paragraph is delusional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine just purchased a golden visa to Portugal. I don't think many people can afford to do that, and those who can are the least likely to be hurt here.

My friend moved to Panama and is applying for the requisite paperwork to stay. She's lucky because she is in the medical field and that skill is easily transferable. I am going down during the holidays to check it out for myself. My problem is leaving behind a kid that's in his second year of university.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But wouldn’t the motivation to keep people in— in particular working people— be to maintain not only a country’s economy, money flowing, produces being made, but a large tax base? No citizens, no taxes being paid.

That said, didn’t Cuba permit dissidents to leave at some point?

the USA is one of the only countries that taxes foreign income and income when you are abroad. Ask any ex pat- it is SO SO frustrating.

I dont think an exit ban will come but they might make it very difficult for people to move money outside of the USA, I think they might actually want people to work as ex pats or maybe I hope this. There are so many american of color and it will be so difficult to strip them citizenship, it might be a win win if we all were encouraged to become ex pats- so didn't live one the USA but still paid our upper middle class taxes. they'd get our money but no mosques/temples/ religious days off in school etc... no women in weird clothes who don't automatically defer to male colleagues... or bring funky food to the lunchroom/school intl night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fevered imaginations some of you (proudly?) display are unreal.

It's sad. If the posts on this board are real, then most of the people here need real mental help. Simply delusional.

Seriously. These people are insane.

OP here.

How is talking about something insane? I am not panicked. No one here is panicking. I care deeply for this country and am curious about its direction and my family's safety in it.

My family have citizenship in another country but that doesn't make it easy to leave. We have good savings. But we also have kids in school, professional licenses that aren't recognized in other countries, aging parents, etc. So, I don't think it's at all insane to consider how things may force our cards anyway.

Much of what people were mocked for worrying about has become reality. A year ago I wasn't expecting masked militias in cities, throwing people in concentration camps and joking about alligators eating them. THAT is insane.

Your entire last paragraph is delusional.

A delusion is a strongly held belief that is false and remains unchanged despite clear evidence to the contrary.

ICE is in fact wearing masks and terrorizing cities.

A camp where persons are confined, usually without hearings and typically under harsh conditions, often as a result of their membership in a group the government has identified as suspect. What is Alligator Alcatraz if not that?

Before a visit to the immigrant detention facility in the Everglades, Trump told reporters that snakes and alligators would attack anyone trying to get out. During the tour, he made another joke about “a lot of cops that are in the form of alligators” at the facility.

It was common during Jim Crow to refer to Black people and children as alligator bait. There is a long history of terrorizing people of color in this way.

YOU are the delusional one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think first there has to be a mass exodus of citizens. Then the ban starts. So you have a couple months to get out.

What would be the signs of that? Would it be apparent to a relatively switched on person that it's time to go? Because plenty of people are saying it now, and I don't really see it as being that dire (even though I detest the adminitsration)

When it becomes obvious that it's time to go, it will be too late, because that's when everyone will be trying to leave, and also when other countries will be trying to keep us out.

yup- Irish people should grab that passport. the Italians already changed their laws in direct response to American/argentinian migration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fevered imaginations some of you (proudly?) display are unreal.

It's sad. If the posts on this board are real, then most of the people here need real mental help. Simply delusional.

Seriously. These people are insane.

OP here.

How is talking about something insane? I am not panicked. No one here is panicking. I care deeply for this country and am curious about its direction and my family's safety in it.

My family have citizenship in another country but that doesn't make it easy to leave. We have good savings. But we also have kids in school, professional licenses that aren't recognized in other countries, aging parents, etc. So, I don't think it's at all insane to consider how things may force our cards anyway.

Much of what people were mocked for worrying about has become reality. A year ago I wasn't expecting masked militias in cities, throwing people in concentration camps and joking about alligators eating them. THAT is insane.

Your entire last paragraph is delusional.

Lmao, please pass whatever strain of delusion that you are smoking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think first there has to be a mass exodus of citizens. Then the ban starts. So you have a couple months to get out.

What would be the signs of that? Would it be apparent to a relatively switched on person that it's time to go? Because plenty of people are saying it now, and I don't really see it as being that dire (even though I detest the adminitsration)

When it becomes obvious that it's time to go, it will be too late, because that's when everyone will be trying to leave, and also when other countries will be trying to keep us out.

yup- Irish people should grab that passport. the Italians already changed their laws in direct response to American/argentinian migration.

My spouse is a dual citizen from the UK. I'm going to go live there for a few years to get my citizenship in a few years.

We ran the numbers, and it's actually not *that* expensive to live there because healthcare, even private healthcare, is cheaper in the UK. That will be out biggest expense when I retire before 65.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But wouldn’t the motivation to keep people in— in particular working people— be to maintain not only a country’s economy, money flowing, produces being made, but a large tax base? No citizens, no taxes being paid.

That said, didn’t Cuba permit dissidents to leave at some point?

the USA is one of the only countries that taxes foreign income and income when you are abroad. Ask any ex pat- it is SO SO frustrating.

I dont think an exit ban will come but they might make it very difficult for people to move money outside of the USA, I think they might actually want people to work as ex pats or maybe I hope this. There are so many american of color and it will be so difficult to strip them citizenship, it might be a win win if we all were encouraged to become ex pats- so didn't live one the USA but still paid our upper middle class taxes. they'd get our money but no mosques/temples/ religious days off in school etc... no women in weird clothes who don't automatically defer to male colleagues... or bring funky food to the lunchroom/school intl night.

I mean you can always just renounce your US citizenship and avoid the double taxation.

[Anonymous]

I guess if you think there's gonna be an exit ban, you better get on the stick now and leave.

OK?

[Anonymous]

Go with God, but go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But wouldn’t the motivation to keep people in— in particular working people— be to maintain not only a country’s economy, money flowing, produces being made, but a large tax base? No citizens, no taxes being paid.

That said, didn’t Cuba permit dissidents to leave at some point?

the USA is one of the only countries that taxes foreign income and income when you are abroad. Ask any ex pat- it is SO SO frustrating.

I dont think an exit ban will come but they might make it very difficult for people to move money outside of the USA, I think they might actually want people to work as ex pats or maybe I hope this. There are so many american of color and it will be so difficult to strip them citizenship, it might be a win win if we all were encouraged to become ex pats- so didn't live one the USA but still paid our upper middle class taxes. they'd get our money but no mosques/temples/ religious days off in school etc... no women in weird clothes who don't automatically defer to male colleagues... or bring funky food to the lunchroom/school intl night.

I mean you can always just renounce your US citizenship and avoid the double taxation.

The US has an exit tax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess if you think there's gonna be an exit ban, you better get on the stick now and leave.

OK?

This is why this thread is so hilarious. These people have completely read the situation incorrectly and have delusions of their own grandeur.

They are far more likely to be deported than forced to stay. The administration would love for every fifth column bureaucrat, NGO worker and trial lawyer to self deport.

But it would be hilarious if they were forced to stay and be farm workers or roofers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, as a poor American I won't have the option to escape to another country. So like many others I'm sure, I will take the final exit from this earth rather than live on my knees in an ever more sickening MAGA regime.

+1. Some of you act like it is so easy to waltz over to another country (and obviously one that is wealthy, English speaking, and has colleges/other opportunities).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fevered imaginations some of you (proudly?) display are unreal.

It's sad. If the posts on this board are real, then most of the people here need real mental help. Simply delusional.

Seriously. These people are insane.

There are two kinds of people not worried about our current brand of politics:

1. White people: Majority of them have absolutely no idea what it means to live as a marginalized community with limited or no rights.

2. Immigrants - They are so invested in the idea of American dream that they are not willing to accept that things may go really bad in America.

One thing I will note for my White friends, living in an authoritarian regimes even when you are a majority in no joke, I have lived in one and I know what I am talking about. Americans of every color, race, religion, ethnicity should be deeply invested to keep U.S a democracy.

My biggest disappointment with the current administration is 2 way system of governing, one set of rules of blues states and another for red states, people are going to wonder why are we even together. It is highly worrisome that there is an administration that is openly willing to acknowledge that they don't represent ALL Americans, but only a select few of their choosing.

So your position is that minorities have little to no rights and that now white people will also have "no rights"?

Do you realize how nutty this sounds?

In an authoritarian set up, nobody will have rights, even White people. That's the very definition of authoritarianism.

First they came for......then they came for me.