Do you think an Exit Ban could actually happen?

[Anonymous]

You’ll have to write a big exit tax check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ignorance in this thread is astounding, truly astounding. It is especially so compared to historical political movements.

There is zero chance of an exit ban under this administration, and frankly, why would they institute one? These people would love if the people supposedly talking about this to leave.

MAGA can’t exist without an enemy to hate, and they can’t let all of the brain power leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fevered imaginations some of you (proudly?) display are unreal.

It's sad. If the posts on this board are real, then most of the people here need real mental help. Simply delusional.

[Anonymous]

A Republican from Florida (Brian Mast) introduced legislation in early September to revoke passports of “domestic terrorists”; however, his definition of domestic terrorism includes anyone with views different from his own. It’s not hard to see the slippery slope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A Republican from Florida (Brian Mast) introduced legislation in early September to revoke passports of “domestic terrorists”; however, his definition of domestic terrorism includes anyone with views different from his own. It’s not hard to see the slippery slope.

Yep, these MAGAs are as blind as they ever were.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Literally no one (besides your coworkers, OP) is talking about this.

That's...not true at all. Lots of people are watching things develop and questioning when it's time to get out of dodge. My household certainly has a "get out" plan in place, we're just watching for specific triggers.

Genuinely curious what your get out triggers are

Many of them have already been tripped (military in our cities, the attempts to criminalize dissent, etc.). The big one I have my eyes on is the prosecution of political enemies, which he is certainly attempting, but the court system itself seems to be holding for the time being. Now if he were to bypass the court system altogether and start locking up/executing/disappearing political enemies, journalists, and activists who are citizens, that'd be a big one. I'm also keeping an eye out for any asset seizure, revoking citizenship, etc. I'm also watching the rich people. If/when they begin to jump ship, I probably will too.

The issue with this regime is that they're attempting all the classic moves of fascism, but they are stupid and incompetent, so they haven't been entirely successful. The question is no longer "Is this a fascist takeover?" but rather, "Will this fascist takeover succeed?" I'm not yet sure enough that it will to uproot my life, and I'm not yet in immediate danger. But I have a plan and a go-bag should that change.

What History Teaches
• Fascist takeovers often look sloppy or absurd until they’re suddenly entrenched. Many contemporaries underestimated the threat because they thought, “These guys are clowns, they’ll never succeed.”
• Large portions of the population weren’t necessarily ideologically fascist — but they tolerated authoritarianism out of fear, apathy, or because they liked the scapegoating.
• By the time everyone “knew for sure” it was authoritarian, it was too dangerous to resist openly.

Yep, definitely understand the risk of underestimating them. I've really been coming to terms recently with the reality that most (white) people are ultimately going to side with these guys if it gets to that point. It's a hard truth to accept.

[Anonymous]

Well, as a poor American I won't have the option to escape to another country. So like many others I'm sure, I will take the final exit from this earth rather than live on my knees in an ever more sickening MAGA regime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least have a few things in place; make sure passports for the entire family are current, have cash at hand and park some money in an account like HSBC expat. In such situations, your ability to access money is everything.

This is the real issue. It would be nearly impossible to ban travel without devastating large swaths of many economies. But, they could make it very expensive to transfer money. And it wouldn’t be too hard to tailor it to prevent people from becoming expats by taxing certain classes of remittances. Unfortunately, for US citizens just getting an HSBC expat account or an individual account overseas wouldn’t be foolproof insurance. Just note the power the US government maintains with FBAR and FATCA rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ignorance in this thread is astounding, truly astounding. It is especially so compared to historical political movements.

There is zero chance of an exit ban under this administration, and frankly, why would they institute one? These people would love if the people supposedly talking about this to leave.

Why? Because they are not idiots like you and understand that any mass exodus of people who can afford to leave will destroy every industry in the US. MAGA Bob the plumber has no idea what goes into financing an aircraft, warehouse, factory, etc. That is just one tiny slice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Literally no one (besides your coworkers, OP) is talking about this.

That's...not true at all. Lots of people are watching things develop and questioning when it's time to get out of dodge. My household certainly has a "get out" plan in place, we're just watching for specific triggers.

Genuinely curious what your get out triggers are

Many of them have already been tripped (military in our cities, the attempts to criminalize dissent, etc.). The big one I have my eyes on is the prosecution of political enemies, which he is certainly attempting, but the court system itself seems to be holding for the time being. Now if he were to bypass the court system altogether and start locking up/executing/disappearing political enemies, journalists, and activists who are citizens, that'd be a big one. I'm also keeping an eye out for any asset seizure, revoking citizenship, etc. I'm also watching the rich people. If/when they begin to jump ship, I probably will too.

The issue with this regime is that they're attempting all the classic moves of fascism, but they are stupid and incompetent, so they haven't been entirely successful. The question is no longer "Is this a fascist takeover?" but rather, "Will this fascist takeover succeed?" I'm not yet sure enough that it will to uproot my life, and I'm not yet in immediate danger. But I have a plan and a go-bag should that change.

What History Teaches
• Fascist takeovers often look sloppy or absurd until they’re suddenly entrenched. Many contemporaries underestimated the threat because they thought, “These guys are clowns, they’ll never succeed.”
• Large portions of the population weren’t necessarily ideologically fascist — but they tolerated authoritarianism out of fear, apathy, or because they liked the scapegoating.
• By the time everyone “knew for sure” it was authoritarian, it was too dangerous to resist openly.

Yep, definitely understand the risk of underestimating them. I've really been coming to terms recently with the reality that most (white) people are ultimately going to side with these guys if it gets to that point. It's a hard truth to accept.

Yes. Self preservation, even if they don't agree with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ignorance in this thread is astounding, truly astounding. It is especially so compared to historical political movements.

There is zero chance of an exit ban under this administration, and frankly, why would they institute one? These people would love if the people supposedly talking about this to leave.

Theban would be on the transfer of assets out of the country. It's the assets not the people they care about

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

And Cuba.

Since 2013, Cubans have been allowed to exit the country legally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But not that long ago, there was. USSR, East Germany, Cuba... all authoritarian regimes.

[Anonymous]

MAGA Project 2025 want Gilead, and there was an exit ban there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Literally no one (besides your coworkers, OP) is talking about this.

That's...not true at all. Lots of people are watching things develop and questioning when it's time to get out of dodge. My household certainly has a "get out" plan in place, we're just watching for specific triggers.

Genuinely curious what your get out triggers are

Many of them have already been tripped (military in our cities, the attempts to criminalize dissent, etc.). The big one I have my eyes on is the prosecution of political enemies, which he is certainly attempting, but the court system itself seems to be holding for the time being. Now if he were to bypass the court system altogether and start locking up/executing/disappearing political enemies, journalists, and activists who are citizens, that'd be a big one. I'm also keeping an eye out for any asset seizure, revoking citizenship, etc. I'm also watching the rich people. If/when they begin to jump ship, I probably will too.

The issue with this regime is that they're attempting all the classic moves of fascism, but they are stupid and incompetent, so they haven't been entirely successful. The question is no longer "Is this a fascist takeover?" but rather, "Will this fascist takeover succeed?" I'm not yet sure enough that it will to uproot my life, and I'm not yet in immediate danger. But I have a plan and a go-bag should that change.

What History Teaches
• Fascist takeovers often look sloppy or absurd until they’re suddenly entrenched. Many contemporaries underestimated the threat because they thought, “These guys are clowns, they’ll never succeed.”
• Large portions of the population weren’t necessarily ideologically fascist — but they tolerated authoritarianism out of fear, apathy, or because they liked the scapegoating.
• By the time everyone “knew for sure” it was authoritarian, it was too dangerous to resist openly.

Yep, definitely understand the risk of underestimating them. I've really been coming to terms recently with the reality that most (white) people are ultimately going to side with these guys if it gets to that point. It's a hard truth to accept.

Yes. Self preservation, even if they don't agree with it.

You could call it that I guess. But as someone from the populations y'all will throw under the bus, we refer to it as something else.