Do you think an Exit Ban could actually happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess if you think there's gonna be an exit ban, you better get on the stick now and leave.

OK?

Are you ok....or just MAGA??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But wouldn’t the motivation to keep people in— in particular working people— be to maintain not only a country’s economy, money flowing, produces being made, but a large tax base? No citizens, no taxes being paid.

That said, didn’t Cuba permit dissidents to leave at some point?

the USA is one of the only countries that taxes foreign income and income when you are abroad. Ask any ex pat- it is SO SO frustrating.

I dont think an exit ban will come but they might make it very difficult for people to move money outside of the USA, I think they might actually want people to work as ex pats or maybe I hope this. There are so many american of color and it will be so difficult to strip them citizenship, it might be a win win if we all were encouraged to become ex pats- so didn't live one the USA but still paid our upper middle class taxes. they'd get our money but no mosques/temples/ religious days off in school etc... no women in weird clothes who don't automatically defer to male colleagues... or bring funky food to the lunchroom/school intl night.

I mean you can always just renounce your US citizenship and avoid the double taxation.

god -what a white comment- eye roll- you know there are a LOT of Americans of color who fled here b/c they were gay, the wrong religion fro their country (like a LOT) wrong political persuasion etc and Bahai people from Iran, Uighars from china, Ahmadi from anywhere in the islamic world, Druze, yazidiis, Hazara from Afghanistan, christians from palestine-, Kurds from Türkiye, Jews from Iran- we can't just go back "home" the US passport is what our parents gambled on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But wouldn’t the motivation to keep people in— in particular working people— be to maintain not only a country’s economy, money flowing, produces being made, but a large tax base? No citizens, no taxes being paid.

That said, didn’t Cuba permit dissidents to leave at some point?

the USA is one of the only countries that taxes foreign income and income when you are abroad. Ask any ex pat- it is SO SO frustrating.

I dont think an exit ban will come but they might make it very difficult for people to move money outside of the USA, I think they might actually want people to work as ex pats or maybe I hope this. There are so many american of color and it will be so difficult to strip them citizenship, it might be a win win if we all were encouraged to become ex pats- so didn't live one the USA but still paid our upper middle class taxes. they'd get our money but no mosques/temples/ religious days off in school etc... no women in weird clothes who don't automatically defer to male colleagues... or bring funky food to the lunchroom/school intl night.

I mean you can always just renounce your US citizenship and avoid the double taxation.

god -what a white comment- eye roll- you know there are a LOT of Americans of color who fled here b/c they were gay, the wrong religion fro their country (like a LOT) wrong political persuasion etc and Bahai people from Iran, Uighars from china, Ahmadi from anywhere in the islamic world, Druze, yazidiis, Hazara from Afghanistan, christians from palestine-, Kurds from Türkiye, Jews from Iran- we can't just go back "home" the US passport is what our parents gambled on.

Maybe quit the animosity towards the people you depend on for generosity then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But wouldn’t the motivation to keep people in— in particular working people— be to maintain not only a country’s economy, money flowing, produces being made, but a large tax base? No citizens, no taxes being paid.

That said, didn’t Cuba permit dissidents to leave at some point?

the USA is one of the only countries that taxes foreign income and income when you are abroad. Ask any ex pat- it is SO SO frustrating.

I dont think an exit ban will come but they might make it very difficult for people to move money outside of the USA, I think they might actually want people to work as ex pats or maybe I hope this. There are so many american of color and it will be so difficult to strip them citizenship, it might be a win win if we all were encouraged to become ex pats- so didn't live one the USA but still paid our upper middle class taxes. they'd get our money but no mosques/temples/ religious days off in school etc... no women in weird clothes who don't automatically defer to male colleagues... or bring funky food to the lunchroom/school intl night.

I mean you can always just renounce your US citizenship and avoid the double taxation.

god -what a white comment- eye roll- you know there are a LOT of Americans of color who fled here b/c they were gay, the wrong religion fro their country (like a LOT) wrong political persuasion etc and Bahai people from Iran, Uighars from china, Ahmadi from anywhere in the islamic world, Druze, yazidiis, Hazara from Afghanistan, christians from palestine-, Kurds from Türkiye, Jews from Iran- we can't just go back "home" the US passport is what our parents gambled on.

Maybe quit the animosity towards the people you depend on for generosity then?

It's not generosity, asshole. You don't own anything here. This planet belongs to us all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess if you think there's gonna be an exit ban, you better get on the stick now and leave.

OK?

This is why this thread is so hilarious. These people have completely read the situation incorrectly and have delusions of their own grandeur.

They are far more likely to be deported than forced to stay. The administration would love for every fifth column bureaucrat, NGO worker and trial lawyer to self deport.

But it would be hilarious if they were forced to stay and be farm workers or roofers.

You think it would be hilarious to mandate educated Americans to work on farms or as roofers? What the actual hell is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

And previously in living memory, East Germany.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

I think NK is the only one that has exit visas for its own citizens. Some countries (Saudi Arabia for example) have them for US citizens and other foreign nationals, including guest workers.

[Anonymous]

I don't envision a situation in which Trump deters liberals from leaving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But wouldn’t the motivation to keep people in— in particular working people— be to maintain not only a country’s economy, money flowing, produces being made, but a large tax base? No citizens, no taxes being paid.

That said, didn’t Cuba permit dissidents to leave at some point?

the USA is one of the only countries that taxes foreign income and income when you are abroad. Ask any ex pat- it is SO SO frustrating.

I dont think an exit ban will come but they might make it very difficult for people to move money outside of the USA, I think they might actually want people to work as ex pats or maybe I hope this. There are so many american of color and it will be so difficult to strip them citizenship, it might be a win win if we all were encouraged to become ex pats- so didn't live one the USA but still paid our upper middle class taxes. they'd get our money but no mosques/temples/ religious days off in school etc... no women in weird clothes who don't automatically defer to male colleagues... or bring funky food to the lunchroom/school intl night.

I mean you can always just renounce your US citizenship and avoid the double taxation.

Kind of funny how many Americans do live as ex pats, but then when someone is here for decades on a green card the anti-immigrant folks are mad saying they should have gotten US citizenship if they wanted to live here permanently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think there is a country on earth like that except North Korea. It’s extremely unlikely.

But wouldn’t the motivation to keep people in— in particular working people— be to maintain not only a country’s economy, money flowing, produces being made, but a large tax base? No citizens, no taxes being paid.

That said, didn’t Cuba permit dissidents to leave at some point?

the USA is one of the only countries that taxes foreign income and income when you are abroad. Ask any ex pat- it is SO SO frustrating.

I dont think an exit ban will come but they might make it very difficult for people to move money outside of the USA, I think they might actually want people to work as ex pats or maybe I hope this. There are so many american of color and it will be so difficult to strip them citizenship, it might be a win win if we all were encouraged to become ex pats- so didn't live one the USA but still paid our upper middle class taxes. they'd get our money but no mosques/temples/ religious days off in school etc... no women in weird clothes who don't automatically defer to male colleagues... or bring funky food to the lunchroom/school intl night.

I mean you can always just renounce your US citizenship and avoid the double taxation.

Kind of funny how many Americans do live as ex pats, but then when someone is here for decades on a green card the anti-immigrant folks are mad saying they should have gotten US citizenship if they wanted to live here permanently.

You know that other countries have immigration laws. Right? Surely you know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't envision a situation in which Trump deters liberals from leaving.

I do. He likes to stick it to the libs and make them suffer his presence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine just purchased a golden visa to Portugal. I don't think many people can afford to do that, and those who can are the least likely to be hurt here.

My friend moved to Panama and is applying for the requisite paperwork to stay. She's lucky because she is in the medical field and that skill is easily transferable. I am going down during the holidays to check it out for myself. My problem is leaving behind a kid that's in his second year of university.

A friend of mine moved to Portugal with her family while the kids were still young. She got the timing right.

We will probably move to the UK once youngest DC graduates from undergrad in a few years. My adult kids can come or not. They have dual citizenship. I told them it's something to think about when they have kids if they don't want them to grow up in this crazy country conducting shooter drills in school when they are 5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't envision a situation in which Trump deters liberals from leaving.

lol let the blue states join Canada! The red states can become become N Korea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess if you think there's gonna be an exit ban, you better get on the stick now and leave.

OK?

This is why this thread is so hilarious. These people have completely read the situation incorrectly and have delusions of their own grandeur.

They are far more likely to be deported than forced to stay. The administration would love for every fifth column bureaucrat, NGO worker and trial lawyer to self deport.

But it would be hilarious if they were forced to stay and be farm workers or roofers.

You think it would be hilarious to mandate educated Americans to work on farms or as roofers? What the actual hell is wrong with you?

its literally Mao's cultural revolution.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know, but as an older Black American/ ADOS — so no option for getting grandfathered in for a passport from another country— with most of my resources tied up in real estate, I’m probably both screwed and stuck here.