Are we sleep walking into nuclear confrontation?

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Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


If it goes nuke not on us. You do not agree to blackmail. The blackmail never would end. You tell Putin fire if you are going to we are tired of listening to you.



Did he invade Alaska and try to blackmail us ?
No
Should we escalate this confrontation to nuclear for Ukraine?
No
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


If it goes nuke not on us. You do not agree to blackmail. The blackmail never would end. You tell Putin fire if you are going to we are tired of listening to you.



Did he invade Alaska and try to blackmail us ?
No
Should we escalate this confrontation to nuclear for Ukraine?
No


We aren't escalating. But we will respond.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


If it goes nuke not on us. You do not agree to blackmail. The blackmail never would end. You tell Putin fire if you are going to we are tired of listening to you.



Did he invade Alaska and try to blackmail us ?
No
Should we escalate this confrontation to nuclear for Ukraine?
No


Not sure I get your point comrade.
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At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.





Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.


Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.




Lets assume they use small tactical nuclear weapon against Ukraine, then what will we do?


Then Russia will have declared a war of agression against the world and a medium sized nuke is used on a comparable site in Russia.

Russia has agency. You don't seem to understand what country is the protagonist in this story.



If we do what you suggested,
We won’t be here to discuss about it.


If we dont then we won't be here to discuss about it (sic)

If we do as you suggest, that would be unilateral unconditional global surrender. Once a nuke is fired in anger (petulance) it's all over anyway. If there is no response then there is no detterent. If you are really scared about this scenario then you need to be praying every night that Russia loses and working to ensure that the entire world stands together opposed to their unprovoked aggressive war of conquest and genocide.


It would be utter insanity to nuke Russia because they used a tactical nuke on Ukraine. Should the US nuke Pakistan if Pakistan nukes India? Should we nuke Israel if they nuke Iran? There is no treaty that requires us to come to the defense of Ukraine, and starting armageddon over a low yield tac nuke is ridiculous. If Russia uses nukes on Ukraine all it will do is further unite the world against Russia and make it that much harder for "neutral" countries like India/China to justify their continued business with them.


Incorrect.

We have the capability for a nuclear decapitation strike on Russia. Doing so would be an act of self-preservation, not insanity.


You don’t know about the Russian dead man’s switch


Are you referring to the nuke hidden in the attic of the Russian embassy in DC?


No, the Russians have a system to detect nuclear detonations in Russian territory and automatically issue launch commands to all of its nuclear missile units. So a decapitation strike would fail to destroy their ability to retaliate.


Could Russia send nukes to US -- yes -- at least a few. That's all you need. But the idea that Russia has its old Soviet capacity or that anything really works is utter nonsense. The US will never use nukes first. But the US will use them second.
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Utter nonsesnse and this thread proves it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


If it goes nuke not on us. You do not agree to blackmail. The blackmail never would end. You tell Putin fire if you are going to we are tired of listening to you.



Did he invade Alaska and try to blackmail us ?
No
Should we escalate this confrontation to nuclear for Ukraine?
No


Not sure I get your point comrade.



My preferred option let Ukraine fight for Ukraine.
With gorilla warfare eg Afghanistan vs Russia.
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FWIW at this point I think everyone understands that the U.S. is giving Ukraine literally everything except American soldiers. For some reason no one raised a fuss about weapons transfers but somehow intelligence is beyond the pale. What’s the difference?



Our political class are playing “I dare you” game with Russia.
Yes we did it. What are you going to do about it ?
I don’t think the American people are as aware as they should be about the situation.


You have tgis entire thing backwards. The US and its political class is barely doing anything and what they are doing is merely responding.

Russia invaded Ukraine and wants to conquer them. Russia has committed mass atrocities and is attempting genocide. Russia is literally stealing whatever they can and raping whomever they can in Ukraine. Russia has threated NATO members. Russia has threatened non-NATO members. Russia has threatened nuclear war. Russia has threatened to blow up the International Space Station. Russia cyber attacked our LNG companies. Russia has threatened to nuke the UK.

Russia keeps escalating. Russia is the protagonist. Russia can stop all this whenever they want. The US and the West have been remarkably restrained throughout this.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


If it goes nuke not on us. You do not agree to blackmail. The blackmail never would end. You tell Putin fire if you are going to we are tired of listening to you.



Did he invade Alaska and try to blackmail us ?
No
Should we escalate this confrontation to nuclear for Ukraine?
No


Not sure I get your point comrade.



My preferred option let Ukraine fight for Ukraine.
With gorilla warfare eg Afghanistan vs Russia.


That's what is happening.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


If it goes nuke not on us. You do not agree to blackmail. The blackmail never would end. You tell Putin fire if you are going to we are tired of listening to you.



Did he invade Alaska and try to blackmail us ?
No
Should we escalate this confrontation to nuclear for Ukraine?
No


Not sure I get your point comrade.



We are more involved than that.
Just read the previous tweets.


My preferred option let Ukraine fight for Ukraine.
With gorilla warfare eg Afghanistan vs Russia.


That's what is happening.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


If it goes nuke not on us. You do not agree to blackmail. The blackmail never would end. You tell Putin fire if you are going to we are tired of listening to you.



Did he invade Alaska and try to blackmail us ?
No
Should we escalate this confrontation to nuclear for Ukraine?
No


Not sure I get your point comrade.



We are more involved than that.
Just read the previous tweets.


My preferred option let Ukraine fight for Ukraine.
With gorilla warfare eg Afghanistan vs Russia.


That's what is happening.



We are more involved than that.
Just read the previous tweets.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


If it goes nuke not on us. You do not agree to blackmail. The blackmail never would end. You tell Putin fire if you are going to we are tired of listening to you.



Did he invade Alaska and try to blackmail us ?
No
Should we escalate this confrontation to nuclear for Ukraine?
No


Not sure I get your point comrade.



We are more involved than that.
Just read the previous tweets.


My preferred option let Ukraine fight for Ukraine.
With gorilla warfare eg Afghanistan vs Russia.


That's what is happening.



We are more involved than that.
Just read the previous tweets.


No, we aren't. I take it you don't know how involved we were with the muhajaddin or how involved the Soviets were in vietnam.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


Let's not create a policy based on metaphors.

"The Elders tell of a young ball much like you. He bounced three meters in the air. Then he bounced 1.8 meters in the air. Then he bounced four meters in the air. Do I make myself clear?"



Rubber band metaphor was said about NATO expansion .


So if NATO expands, it will snap back?



The reaction to NATO expansion is Putin snapping back.


So the rubberband is both NATO and Putin? You do realize your interpretation makes no sense.




Russia = Rubber band.
NATO = Stretcher of the rubber band (Russia).
Snap back = Rubber band (Russia)


When the rubberband snaps back, it injures the holder. Who is holding the rubberband, NATO? Russia? Putin? Is the rubberband around NATO? That's backwards, because NATO surrounds Russia.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


If it goes nuke not on us. You do not agree to blackmail. The blackmail never would end. You tell Putin fire if you are going to we are tired of listening to you.



Did he invade Alaska and try to blackmail us ?
No
Should we escalate this confrontation to nuclear for Ukraine?
No


Not sure I get your point comrade.


That was US - Soviet. Only reason they won was stingers we gave them and CIA who trained them.


My preferred option let Ukraine fight for Ukraine.
With gorilla warfare eg Afghanistan vs Russia.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


Let's not create a policy based on metaphors.

"The Elders tell of a young ball much like you. He bounced three meters in the air. Then he bounced 1.8 meters in the air. Then he bounced four meters in the air. Do I make myself clear?"



Rubber band metaphor was said about NATO expansion .


So if NATO expands, it will snap back?



The reaction to NATO expansion is Putin snapping back.


So the rubberband is both NATO and Putin? You do realize your interpretation makes no sense.




Russia = Rubber band.
NATO = Stretcher of the rubber band (Russia).
Snap back = Rubber band (Russia)


When the rubberband snaps back, it injures the holder. Who is holding the rubberband, NATO? Russia? Putin? Is the rubberband around NATO? That's backwards, because NATO surrounds Russia.


What a perfect metaphor for Russia's own incompetent hubric agression. They invaded Ukraine and in doing so snapped themselves with the rubber band.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin once said in an interview “if you stretch rubber band it snaps back”.
I feel like politicians are forgetting we are stretching a nuclear power nation.


Let's not create a policy based on metaphors.

"The Elders tell of a young ball much like you. He bounced three meters in the air. Then he bounced 1.8 meters in the air. Then he bounced four meters in the air. Do I make myself clear?"



Rubber band metaphor was said about NATO expansion .


So if NATO expands, it will snap back?



The reaction to NATO expansion is Putin snapping back.


So the rubberband is both NATO and Putin? You do realize your interpretation makes no sense.




Russia = Rubber band.
NATO = Stretcher of the rubber band (Russia).
Snap back = Rubber band (Russia)


When the rubberband snaps back, it injures the holder. Who is holding the rubberband, NATO? Russia? Putin? Is the rubberband around NATO? That's backwards, because NATO surrounds Russia.


What a perfect metaphor for Russia's own incompetent hubric agression. They invaded Ukraine and in doing so snapped themselves with the rubber band.



If the war stops now you are correct.
But don’t forget the “mission accomplished” and “cake walk” statements during Iraq invasion.
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