Are we sleep walking into nuclear confrontation?

[Anonymous]

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At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

Lets assume they use small tactical nuclear weapon against Ukraine, then what will we do?

Then Russia will have declared a war of agression against the world and a medium sized nuke is used on a comparable site in Russia.

Russia has agency. You don't seem to understand what country is the protagonist in this story.

If we do what you suggested,
We won’t be here to discuss about it.

If we dont then we won't be here to discuss about it (sic)

If we do as you suggest, that would be unilateral unconditional global surrender. Once a nuke is fired in anger (petulance) it's all over anyway. If there is no response then there is no detterent. If you are really scared about this scenario then you need to be praying every night that Russia loses and working to ensure that the entire world stands together opposed to their unprovoked aggressive war of conquest and genocide.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

I agree.
But, why in the hell is this administration revealing publicly the help they are providing Ukraine? There is no earthly reason to disclose this information.

It confirms speculation that we are indeed in a proxy war. And, it serves no purpose in working to end this conflict.

It promotes the idea that this administration WANTS a direct conflict with Russia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

I agree.
But, why in the hell is this administration revealing publicly the help they are providing Ukraine? There is no earthly reason to disclose this information.

It confirms speculation that we are indeed in a proxy war. And, it serves no purpose in working to end this conflict.

It promotes the idea that this administration WANTS a direct conflict with Russia.

You have to stand up against people like Putin( and trump). Otherwise they will take everything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

I agree.
But, why in the hell is this administration revealing publicly the help they are providing Ukraine? There is no earthly reason to disclose this information.

It confirms speculation that we are indeed in a proxy war. And, it serves no purpose in working to end this conflict.

It promotes the idea that this administration WANTS a direct conflict with Russia.

Some of it is signalling to the rest of NATO and the world
Some of it is signaling to Putin (his main thesis was that the West wouldn't do anything)
Some of it is signalling to the Russian troops that don't want to be there
Some of it is dumbass House and Senate members leaking crap (remember the live streaming of the Zelensky briefing by Rubio (and someone else)).

On the whole Biden, Blinken, Austin, and LTG have done an amazing job. It's not been perfect but it's been pretty darn good.

We are not in a proxy war. Ukraine was invaded and is fighting for its own survival. It's not about us and we do a disservice to Ukraine when we forget that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

I agree.

But, why in the hell is this administration revealing publicly the help they are providing Ukraine? There is no earthly reason to disclose this information.

It confirms speculation that we are indeed in a proxy war. And, it serves no purpose in working to end this conflict.

It promotes the idea that this administration WANTS a direct conflict with Russia.

Because if this Administration does not tout it's victories and create its own narrative, Russian proxies like Tucker Carlson will fill the void.

Perception is reality. How have you not figured that out yet?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

I agree.

But, why in the hell is this administration revealing publicly the help they are providing Ukraine? There is no earthly reason to disclose this information.

It confirms speculation that we are indeed in a proxy war. And, it serves no purpose in working to end this conflict.

It promotes the idea that this administration WANTS a direct conflict with Russia.

Because if this Administration does not tout it's victories and create its own narrative, Russian proxies like Tucker Carlson will fill the void.

Perception is reality. How have you not figured that out yet?

This is just dumb.
This is Biden boasting about something that should never be out in public. It is not something at all to boast about. It gives Russia ammunition.
I am not against the US assisting - I am very much against going public about what we are doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

I agree.

But, why in the hell is this administration revealing publicly the help they are providing Ukraine? There is no earthly reason to disclose this information.

It confirms speculation that we are indeed in a proxy war. And, it serves no purpose in working to end this conflict.

It promotes the idea that this administration WANTS a direct conflict with Russia.

Because if this Administration does not tout it's victories and create its own narrative, Russian proxies like Tucker Carlson will fill the void.

Perception is reality. How have you not figured that out yet?

This is just dumb.
This is Biden boasting about something that should never be out in public. It is not something at all to boast about. It gives Russia ammunition.
I am not against the US assisting - I am very much against going public about what we are doing.

Probably someone leaking information. It all comes out eventually anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

I agree.

But, why in the hell is this administration revealing publicly the help they are providing Ukraine? There is no earthly reason to disclose this information.

It confirms speculation that we are indeed in a proxy war. And, it serves no purpose in working to end this conflict.

It promotes the idea that this administration WANTS a direct conflict with Russia.

Because if this Administration does not tout it's victories and create its own narrative, Russian proxies like Tucker Carlson will fill the void.

Perception is reality. How have you not figured that out yet?

This is just dumb.
This is Biden boasting about something that should never be out in public. It is not something at all to boast about. It gives Russia ammunition.
I am not against the US assisting - I am very much against going public about what we are doing.

Biden wasnt the one boasting about the intelligence sharing. That was a leak and Kirby tried to walk it back.

The weapons systems stuff has to do with our own government transparency laws. It should also be noted that they have been getting a lot of guff for not doing enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That is an example of sleepwalking OP is taking about.

DCUM won’t be satisfied until Russian MIRV’s are dropping on us.

No, us democrats are apparently braver than the republican / Russian trolls.
We are not scared of Putin. F@#$ Putin.

Would you send your kids to fight for 🇺🇦?
If not you’re not committed.

I’m supporting Ukraine financially. My DS isn’t the military type, he’s more of an intellectual. It would be a total misuse of talent to put him in a military role. He’s far too smart for that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

Lets assume they use small tactical nuclear weapon against Ukraine, then what will we do?

Then Russia will have declared a war of agression against the world and a medium sized nuke is used on a comparable site in Russia.

Russia has agency. You don't seem to understand what country is the protagonist in this story.

How is Ukraine the “world” ?
Mutually assured destruction is for US vs Russia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

Lets assume they use small tactical nuclear weapon against Ukraine, then what will we do?

Then Russia will have declared a war of agression against the world and a medium sized nuke is used on a comparable site in Russia.

Russia has agency. You don't seem to understand what country is the protagonist in this story.

How is Ukraine the “world” ?
Mutually assured destruction is for US vs Russia.

That's the way the cookie crumbles. Using an offensive nuke in a war of territorial expansion is a declaration of aggression against the entire world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

Lets assume they use small tactical nuclear weapon against Ukraine, then what will we do?

Then Russia will have declared a war of agression against the world and a medium sized nuke is used on a comparable site in Russia.

Russia has agency. You don't seem to understand what country is the protagonist in this story.

How is Ukraine the “world” ?
Mutually assured destruction is for US vs Russia.

That's the way the cookie crumbles. Using an offensive nuke in a war of territorial expansion is a declaration of aggression against the entire world.

That is not USA stated nuclear weapon policy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

Lets assume they use small tactical nuclear weapon against Ukraine, then what will we do?

Then Russia will have declared a war of agression against the world and a medium sized nuke is used on a comparable site in Russia.

Russia has agency. You don't seem to understand what country is the protagonist in this story.

How is Ukraine the “world” ?
Mutually assured destruction is for US vs Russia.

That's the way the cookie crumbles. Using an offensive nuke in a war of territorial expansion is a declaration of aggression against the entire world.

That is not USA stated nuclear weapon policy.

Sorry. Luckily it's enitrely Russia's choice and they can stop the invasion whenever they want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

Lets assume they use small tactical nuclear weapon against Ukraine, then what will we do?

Then Russia will have declared a war of agression against the world and a medium sized nuke is used on a comparable site in Russia.

Russia has agency. You don't seem to understand what country is the protagonist in this story.

If we do what you suggested,
We won’t be here to discuss about it.

If we dont then we won't be here to discuss about it (sic)

If we do as you suggest, that would be unilateral unconditional global surrender. Once a nuke is fired in anger (petulance) it's all over anyway. If there is no response then there is no detterent. If you are really scared about this scenario then you need to be praying every night that Russia loses and working to ensure that the entire world stands together opposed to their unprovoked aggressive war of conquest and genocide.

It would be utter insanity to nuke Russia because they used a tactical nuke on Ukraine. Should the US nuke Pakistan if Pakistan nukes India? Should we nuke Israel if they nuke Iran? There is no treaty that requires us to come to the defense of Ukraine, and starting armageddon over a low yield tac nuke is ridiculous. If Russia uses nukes on Ukraine all it will do is further unite the world against Russia and make it that much harder for "neutral" countries like India/China to justify their continued business with them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At this point, it seems as if Biden wants to get into a hot war with Russia.

Do our politicians know about Russia's military doctrine about use of nuclear weapons?
It has very low threshold.
This is more dangers than during Cuban missile crisis.

Nah. It's not. If Russia nukes then they get nuked. Mutually assured destruction.

Russia invaded Ukraine in a war of territorial expansion (and is doing horribly). Russia has committed mass crimes and atrocities on a level comparable to Milosevic and Taylor. Their goal is the complete destuction of the concept of Ukraine. If they want it to stop they can stop it.

Lets assume they use small tactical nuclear weapon against Ukraine, then what will we do?

Then Russia will have declared a war of agression against the world and a medium sized nuke is used on a comparable site in Russia.

Russia has agency. You don't seem to understand what country is the protagonist in this story.

If we do what you suggested,
We won’t be here to discuss about it.

If we dont then we won't be here to discuss about it (sic)

If we do as you suggest, that would be unilateral unconditional global surrender. Once a nuke is fired in anger (petulance) it's all over anyway. If there is no response then there is no detterent. If you are really scared about this scenario then you need to be praying every night that Russia loses and working to ensure that the entire world stands together opposed to their unprovoked aggressive war of conquest and genocide.

It would be utter insanity to nuke Russia because they used a tactical nuke on Ukraine. Should the US nuke Pakistan if Pakistan nukes India? Should we nuke Israel if they nuke Iran? There is no treaty that requires us to come to the defense of Ukraine, and starting armageddon over a low yield tac nuke is ridiculous. If Russia uses nukes on Ukraine all it will do is further unite the world against Russia and make it that much harder for "neutral" countries like India/China to justify their continued business with them.

Incorrect.

We have the capability for a nuclear decapitation strike on Russia. Doing so would be an act of self-preservation, not insanity.