School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
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I am guessing yes, which is why many kids may have avoided him. |
Anonymous
He was playing with Molotov cocktails in the backyard. |
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Just coming in to comment after hearing on NPR this morning about the note. Which included the statement that the kid felt his life was useless and also the phrase "Please help me", besides the references to guns and shooting and blood.
That would be enough--whether you are a highly educated administrator, a working class parent without advanced education--to see this as, at minimum, suicidal thinking, which is often linked to homicidal thinking and acts. My own roots are working class and many of my family is still working class. None of us would abandon a kid at the school after seeing something like that, and I have a hard time understanding that school administrators would not see this as an emergency, whether or not they knew the kid had access to a weapon. Not to undermine the tragedy experienced by the victims and their families, this is an awful tragedy for the kid as well. FWIW I did have a sibling who had angry outbursts, and in the midst of one went in his bedroom and shot and killed himself. Strangely, a week later in our small town another kid his age shot and killed his mother during an argument, so I have always seen these acts as two sides of the same coin. As an adult, I have always taken ANY indication of suicidal thinking very seriously and found some way to act--whether calling 911 or something else. |
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Not every parent of a school shooter deserves to be charged, but these people do.
Imagine being called to school and shown a picture that your child drew of someone shot and bleeding, with the comments he wrote on it. Imagine leaving the school without your child that day, despite knowing that you purchased a gun for him just a few days earlier. This is absolutely negligent behavior. They KNEW he had access to a gun. He drew that picture, he wrote those words, and his parents weren't bothered enough to take immediate action to be sure that he couldn't hurt anyone?! This goes beyond bad parenting. They had a duty to ensure that the gun wasn't with him when they saw that picture. THEY COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS TRAGEDY. Four innocent other KIDS are dead because these two didn't speak up/act appropriately with the knowledge they had. |
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The 4th amendment standard is different in schools, although it's a long time since I read about this. And even if there was some kind of situation providing "protections" this note would have certainly permitted the school to contact authorities (even CPS) to ensure an immediate psych assessment, which can be done in an ER (they call in a psych social worker typically to do this). I doubt this kid was on an IEP though. But even if he was, you can still suspend a kid on an IEP (whether the above would constitute a suspension idk, but I would doubt it). If it is for 10 days or there has been a pattern of suspensions accumulating to 10 days mandates an IEP team meeting to determine if the issue is disability related, that's all. |
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I agree with you. This could also have been prevented if the school had called 911, and the child been taken in for a Psych Consult. OR if they had inspected his backpack for weapons. MY heart goes out to the teachers who were so alert and vigilant. They reported the red flags that they saw, and it still happened. |
Anonymous
This. This is ALL that matters. Not their income, or where they lived. This and only this. I hope and pray they get the max. |
Anonymous
The father is an account exec at an office supply company and the mother is a director of marketing. STFU with this speculative nonsense trying to excuse these shitty people. |
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NY Post quotes the father's ex has saying he earned 6 figures. Whether or not there is insurance school could have still insisted they take him home and assisted with referrals to agencies that provide sliding scale counseling. Michigan has public health centers (these do exist across the country, probably not enough but yes, they do exist) based on ability to pay. Such places usually start with an intake even though it can take longer to set up ongoing services. It would have been an easy way for all the adults concerned to cover their ass, if nothing else, and likely would have dampened the crisis effect the kid was feeling. And they might have been able to determine if the kid did in fact need to be hospitalized. |
Anonymous
I agree but I think the mother is mentally ill. Truly mentally ill. |
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Not every shitty person is mentally ill. |
Anonymous
And mentally ill people can understand consequences and stand trial. They are not all unfit to do so. The defense attorneys were so cocky - they are clearly going with the “our clients couldn’t have done a thing!” defense. |
Anonymous
Maybe consider getting this mad at the NRA and the gun culture in this country. I completely disagree with you. |
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Why are people excusing this monster and his parents?? |