Transgender congressperson calls for practical compromise on transgender policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The issue with sports is that transgender kids end up not playing sports at all. So there has to be a nuanced conversation that we have to make space for transgender kids to participate in sports according to their gender identity. At the same time, at the highest levels of competition, it is fundamentally unfair and exclusionary to girls if a transgender girl is always winning. So where do you draw the line? In most states there is a process for addressing complaints of this sort and a decision can be made to prevent that individual from competing, which is unfortunate but probably necessary.

Of course, it is impossible to have a nuanced conversation about transgender people in sports with people who hate that transgender people exist at all.

Well said. And when we draw a distinction between levels of competition, it seems we could do that on age. High school and above?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Facts Matter is a mistake. It sums up the smug attitudes of upper middle class striver Dems. Swing voters DO NOT AGREE that Democrats have a more accurate set of facts than swing voters, Republicans, or even MAGAs. We SO want to Lord it over stupid Trump voters, but we HAVE to resist the temptation.

What does that have to do with this conversation? This is a question of competing rights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue with sports is that transgender kids end up not playing sports at all. So there has to be a nuanced conversation that we have to make space for transgender kids to participate in sports according to their gender identity. At the same time, at the highest levels of competition, it is fundamentally unfair and exclusionary to girls if a transgender girl is always winning. So where do you draw the line? In most states there is a process for addressing complaints of this sort and a decision can be made to prevent that individual from competing, which is unfortunate but probably necessary.

Of course, it is impossible to have a nuanced conversation about transgender people in sports with people who hate that transgender people exist at all.

Well said. And when we draw a distinction between levels of competition, it seems we could do that on age. High school and above?

How do you propose to administer this such that it doesn’t face an immediate legal challenge?

All of this is avoiding the underlying issue of legal rights.

[Anonymous]

Progressives will always prefer smaller and weirder marginalized groups over larger and less weird groups. And sexual preference and gender fluidity stuff appeal to our desire to “transgress” against tradition, organized religion, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Sarah McBride tells Democrats to stop infighting and stop demanding ideological purity, and stop taking the bait from social conservatives and crushing themselves.


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03/sarah-mcbride-says-democrats-should-be-more-open-to-opponents-of-trans-rights/

Everyone has to make a sacrifice to get through difficult times.
Changing hearts and minds and social structures and physical facilities takes time.
Compromise on sports. Compromise on bathrooms.
"It's not fair" just isn't a strong enough argument. It's too subjective. Play to win, not be be a righteous loser.
Sometimes the better option is to wait out the old generation, not give them ammo to inflame a new generation. Sometimes you have to be a martyr for your cause, because you can't win by force of will.


Progressives, the goal is to make continual progress, not be rigid absolutists ther ignores the feelings and actual power of opponents. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. " -MLK

Be good, but be smart.
It's not too late.

Gen Z is far more conservative on this issue than the Millennials.

Transgender wasn't a thing when we were growing up. Gen Z has been exposed to it and doesn't like it. Are they going to show up at every girl's athletic event, look at me, look at me, I exist and I can jump higher, run faster, swim faster... That is going to get old real fast. Pretty soon all of professional women's sports are going to consist of transletes. Yes, there aren't that many trans people, but there aren't that many professional women athletes either.

Transgender absolutely was a thing when you were growing up. How did transgender people exist years ago? They moved. They changed their outward appearance as much as they could without hormones, and they moved locations. They lived in their new location as their new preferred gender. And oftentimes, those who did not move but chose to live as the opposite gender in their same location where they were born were beat and killed.

Transgender WAS a thing when you were growing up. Transgender wasn't as accepted as it is now.

Saying something wasn't a 'thing' back then is false. These people have always existed in some form, they just weren't accepted.

Spinsters = lesbians.
Your great aunt who lived with her roommate Agnes for 35 years? Lesbian.
Your uncle Tom who never married and brought different male friends to Thanksgiving dinner every few years? Gay.

They just weren't accepted by society, so they did what they needed to do to get by: they had lifelong roommates.

Depression, anxiety, ADD/ADHD, and autism have also always existed. They just weren't recognized by most of society. My dad never got any diagnosis of autism or OCD, but he's 76 years old and will have a meltdown if his food touches. He also has to eat his food in order. If he has mashed potatoes, steak, and green beans, he must eat all steak then all green beans and then all potatoes. He also needs to wipe down his fork after each food to prepare it for the next food. All items have a correct assigned place in our house, too. And again, if too many items get put back out of place = meltdown time. He has SO many other rituals he does daily, too. But when I was diagnosed with OCD and anxiety in my early 20s he said, "I don't know where you get this from. We don't have mental problems in our family." You. It's you, big guy.

+1 Wish I knew who you were, but you nailed it! I'm an older DCUM poster. When I was a teacher in a medium sized deep south city, two of my favorite school principals were roommates for 30+ years. Definitely lesbians who lived quiet, normal lives in a modest subdivision in a conservative area; and no one objected.

Stop conflating homosexuality with trans. Voters have caught on to this ruse. Gay people are not demanding that we lie about basic facts of material reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The issue with sports is that transgender kids end up not playing sports at all. So there has to be a nuanced conversation that we have to make space for transgender kids to participate in sports according to their gender identity. At the same time, at the highest levels of competition, it is fundamentally unfair and exclusionary to girls if a transgender girl is always winning. So where do you draw the line? In most states there is a process for addressing complaints of this sort and a decision can be made to prevent that individual from competing, which is unfortunate but probably necessary.

Of course, it is impossible to have a nuanced conversation about transgender people in sports with people who hate that transgender people exist at all.

Or that progressives only care about transgender. Two extremes butting heads against each other.

[Anonymous]

Very few Dems seem inclined to listen to the great advice from Trans Congresswoman Sarah McBride. Our ideas about Demicratic support for trans folks do NOT include taking advice from trans folks

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue with sports is that transgender kids end up not playing sports at all. So there has to be a nuanced conversation that we have to make space for transgender kids to participate in sports according to their gender identity. At the same time, at the highest levels of competition, it is fundamentally unfair and exclusionary to girls if a transgender girl is always winning. So where do you draw the line? In most states there is a process for addressing complaints of this sort and a decision can be made to prevent that individual from competing, which is unfortunate but probably necessary.

Of course, it is impossible to have a nuanced conversation about transgender people in sports with people who hate that transgender people exist at all.

Or that progressives only care about transgender. Two extremes butting heads against each other.

Don't progressives also care about Hamas? You should keep your hateful propaganda talking points consistent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Very few Dems seem inclined to listen to the great advice from Trans Congresswoman Sarah McBride. Our ideas about Demicratic support for trans folks do NOT include taking advice from trans folks

I think the problem is the advice doesn’t work.

[Anonymous]

How so? The advice is to back off on trans issues, let trans athletes be banned from girls’ sports and girls’ locker rooms, and give Democrats a fighting chance to retake the House of Representatives or the Presidency. It’s better for all Democratic issues including trans folk stuff (long term). What’s not to like? To ignore this advice is to say that purity and virtue signaling are more important to us than helping to save democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue with sports is that transgender kids end up not playing sports at all. So there has to be a nuanced conversation that we have to make space for transgender kids to participate in sports according to their gender identity. At the same time, at the highest levels of competition, it is fundamentally unfair and exclusionary to girls if a transgender girl is always winning. So where do you draw the line? In most states there is a process for addressing complaints of this sort and a decision can be made to prevent that individual from competing, which is unfortunate but probably necessary.

Of course, it is impossible to have a nuanced conversation about transgender people in sports with people who hate that transgender people exist at all.

Well said. And when we draw a distinction between levels of competition, it seems we could do that on age. High school and above?

How do you propose to administer this such that it doesn’t face an immediate legal challenge?

All of this is avoiding the underlying issue of legal rights.

Competitive versus non-competitive. Nothing in elementary school is competitive. Non-league games are also considered exhibitions.

But why do you think a legal challenge would succeed? Gender is neither a protected class, nor, according to the activists, a fixed inherent characteristic. Sex, on the other hand, is both of those things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue with sports is that transgender kids end up not playing sports at all. So there has to be a nuanced conversation that we have to make space for transgender kids to participate in sports according to their gender identity. At the same time, at the highest levels of competition, it is fundamentally unfair and exclusionary to girls if a transgender girl is always winning. So where do you draw the line? In most states there is a process for addressing complaints of this sort and a decision can be made to prevent that individual from competing, which is unfortunate but probably necessary.

Of course, it is impossible to have a nuanced conversation about transgender people in sports with people who hate that transgender people exist at all.

Well said. And when we draw a distinction between levels of competition, it seems we could do that on age. High school and above?

How do you propose to administer this such that it doesn’t face an immediate legal challenge?

All of this is avoiding the underlying issue of legal rights.

Competitive versus non-competitive. Nothing in elementary school is competitive. Non-league games are also considered exhibitions.

But why do you think a legal challenge would succeed? Gender is neither a protected class, nor, according to the activists, a fixed inherent characteristic. Sex, on the other hand, is both of those things.

There are many states in which gender identity is a protected class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How so? The advice is to back off on trans issues, let trans athletes be banned from girls’ sports and girls’ locker rooms, and give Democrats a fighting chance to retake the House of Representatives or the Presidency. It’s better for all Democratic issues including trans folk stuff (long term). What’s not to like? To ignore this advice is to say that purity and virtue signaling are more important to us than helping to save democracy.

+1. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. We have to win first and right now we are not winning.

[Anonymous]

The intense commitment upper middle class cisgendered traditional-family Dems have towards “trans folks,” until very recently a very tiny and weird sexual subculture, is quite striking. It’s obviously been pretty self-destructive for Dems. But we can’t stop ourselves. Now our transwoman in Comgress is begging us to stop, and Bethesda soccer moms are refusing!

[Anonymous]

The trans hysteria will be gone in 10 yrs and they'll be accepted like gay are today. Idk why republicans act like they care about girls sports. Why support LGB but not T too?