Transgender congressperson calls for practical compromise on transgender policy

[Anonymous]

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+1 Wish I knew who you were, but you nailed it! I'm an older DCUM poster. When I was a teacher in a medium sized deep south city, two of my favorite school principals were roommates for 30+ years. Definitely lesbians who lived quiet, normal lives in a modest subdivision in a conservative area; and no one objected.

Also a teacher here. Also in Deep South at the time. In the case I observed it was a second grade teacher and the county Reading Supervisor. Nice women. Maybe people speculated privately, but not publicly. But, then, they weren't waving Pride flags and marching. And, maybe they were just roommates. I never asked. I worked with the second grade teacher.

Later, in another school system--but long ago, I worked with two gay men. One was "out," and one was not (came out later.) They were not partners. Kind of thought the one who was not "out" was gay, but we never discussed it and he was a good friend. That was his business, not mine. The other one brought his partner to social events.
But, this was long before we saw the rainbow flag.

This is of course all true, but irrelevant. The question isn’t whether trans people existed. People who live across the gender spectrum have always existed.

The question now one of conflicting legal rights, and in particular how the conflict between rights for gender diverse people versus rights based on biological sex is resolved. Because these are directly conflicting, one will have to lose.

Gay rights isn’t quite analogous because gay rights was not in direct conflict with another set of rights for a different marginalized group. There were no zero sum outcomes for gay rights like there are for trans rights.

This is the crux of the issue. Dems have decided that gender identity rights are more important than rights on the basis of sex. This inherently strips the rights of biological females and diminishes their safety and opportunity. Many voters are not on board with this.

It's not at all the same thing as gay and lesbian rights, that don't infringe on the rights of other groups. I've been very pro gay and lesbian rights since before it became more mainstream, but I'm ardently opposed to biological males in female sports and spaces.

Right. All this philosophical/metaphysical discussion is essentially irrelevant. The questions are ones of directly competing legal rights. Democrats have embraced the concept that gender identity-based rights are more important than sex-based rights when there is a direct conflict. Republicans disagree. Eventually this will be sorted out in courts.

It is also an issue of a small minority of activists who decided they had the power to redefine language that describes fundamental aspects of the human condition, and demand everyone go along with it, even where laws and regulations written before the redefinition are concerned.

Man, woman, male, female, suddenly terms that were once nearly universally understood are being contested in the political sphere.

We can’t assume “man” or “woman” actually means man or woman anymore. We are told that people can (and do) switch between these previously immutable categories based on criteria nobody can objectively define.

We are supposed to accept on the basis of faith that people “just know” which category applies to them at any given time, even though we also know that people are often self serving, disingenuous, liars, or just mentally ill.

[Anonymous]

This is funny. The trans agenda has been all or nothing strongarm tactics for over a decade. The manipulative line has been that any compromise on even their most anti-woman, child-endangering whims amounts to literal genocide. Now that they're in the process of getting the nothing they deserve, they declare they want a compromise. Too late. Let them serve as an object lesson to other arrogant, parasitic movements who think they're entitled to dictate to the rest of society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I always want to know who the "radical trans activists" are. I'm the mom of a trans daughter. I guess I am a "radical trans activist" because I care about my child's safety and life.

It's sort of this crazy idea that you become absolutely obsessed with trans people without actually being a trans person? It's like saying that a Jewish person is a "radical Jewish activist" because they care about antisemitism.

And what makes you the "radical" part? What makes you an "activist?" Can you not just care about trans people because you are one or you love one?

Personally, I could care less about the sports stuff. Republicans drummed all of this up to force Democrats to take a position. And I see it a lot like Obama saying he wasn't for gay marriage, when of course he was. He just couldn't say it and win. It means nothing. It affects hardly anyone. I do think Democrats should just give up on it temporarily because it will make Republicans have to find something else stupid to go crazy over, which of course they will.

Trans women in men's prisons is dangerous. That's going to cause rape and murder.

Forcing trans people to use bathrooms of their biological sex is dangerous. It only ends up being butch lesbians who are called out for no reason. It's so stupid, and if we all care that much, start adding more single bathrooms. You think trans people WANT to freak out when they have to pee?

I want the government to stay out of my kid's healthcare, and stay out of parents' rights to handle their kids' healthcare. Stop using terms like "mutilation" that are pejorative. That term could apply to all kinds of legal things people do to themselves.

I hate Republicans, and I hate transphobes. My kid is lucky. She has rich parents and rich grandparents, and she's white and pretty and smart and goes to a good college where she has a girlfriend and friends that don't care that she's trans. And she's studying for a career where she can make a good amount of money if she wants to. She is so well protected because she has supportive parents who are wealthy and white.

I admit I do take some joy in that--knowing that there is really nothing these bigots can do to make my kid's life bad. She's always going to have more money than most of them. They can mess with her healthcare, but we will always help her find a way around that. In the worst case scenario, she would move to another country. Just like all rich people, the laws don't hurt her the way they do poor people.

Of course that doesn't help the poor trans people and the black ones. They're screwed, like poor people always are.

So, your son was born male, white, and wealthy with smug parents like you who eagerly stack the deck for him. But all of that wasn't enough for the grasping narcissist you're raising. He also needed to colonize female identity and force others to recognize him as the woman he will never be. You were delighted, of course, because your precious white son should never hear the word no.

And you'd have us believe the backlash against pathologically entitled, acquisitive jerks like you and your son is somehow wrong. You're the best argument against yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Support for trans athletes and trans education in elementary schools has been falling in recent years. Trans folks themselves are being normalized, but voters are increasingly turned off by Democratic Party policies and annoying (cisgendered) upper middle class liberals who virtue signal about trans folks. If I were trans like Sarah McBride, I’d want Democrats to stop talking about me too. I never thought I’d say this, but Democrats are now LESS popular than trans folks.

The only people I hear yapping non stop about trans people are the right wingers. Sports this, bathrooms that, along with lots of complete BS about schools forcing sex change operations on children (lies). I'm sick of hearing about it.

Democrat entitlement is really something to behold! They don’t want to even HEAR about their least popular policies, the ones that drive swing voters into the arms of Republicans.

Sorry Dems. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If you don’t want your competitors teasing you for your weakest and least popular policies, the power is in your hands! Drop the policies!

Why are their bio males in the girls’ room, trans activists in elementary schools, and “gender affirming care” in the children’s hospitals? Because of Democrats! Of COURSE you’d rather not have voters thinking about that! But you brought it on yourselves.

Senate Dems just voted to keep bio males in the girls’ locker room. That’s your party, like it or not. And the swing voters will be hearing plenty about it during the midterms. If you don’t like it, write your Senators. Or vote against them in the primaries. It’s all up to you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I always want to know who the "radical trans activists" are. I'm the mom of a trans daughter. I guess I am a "radical trans activist" because I care about my child's safety and life.

It's sort of this crazy idea that you become absolutely obsessed with trans people without actually being a trans person? It's like saying that a Jewish person is a "radical Jewish activist" because they care about antisemitism.

And what makes you the "radical" part? What makes you an "activist?" Can you not just care about trans people because you are one or you love one?

Personally, I could care less about the sports stuff. Republicans drummed all of this up to force Democrats to take a position. And I see it a lot like Obama saying he wasn't for gay marriage, when of course he was. He just couldn't say it and win. It means nothing. It affects hardly anyone. I do think Democrats should just give up on it temporarily because it will make Republicans have to find something else stupid to go crazy over, which of course they will.

Trans women in men's prisons is dangerous. That's going to cause rape and murder.

Forcing trans people to use bathrooms of their biological sex is dangerous. It only ends up being butch lesbians who are called out for no reason. It's so stupid, and if we all care that much, start adding more single bathrooms. You think trans people WANT to freak out when they have to pee?

I want the government to stay out of my kid's healthcare, and stay out of parents' rights to handle their kids' healthcare. Stop using terms like "mutilation" that are pejorative. That term could apply to all kinds of legal things people do to themselves.

I hate Republicans, and I hate transphobes. My kid is lucky. She has rich parents and rich grandparents, and she's white and pretty and smart and goes to a good college where she has a girlfriend and friends that don't care that she's trans. And she's studying for a career where she can make a good amount of money if she wants to. She is so well protected because she has supportive parents who are wealthy and white.

I admit I do take some joy in that--knowing that there is really nothing these bigots can do to make my kid's life bad. She's always going to have more money than most of them. They can mess with her healthcare, but we will always help her find a way around that. In the worst case scenario, she would move to another country. Just like all rich people, the laws don't hurt her the way they do poor people.

Of course that doesn't help the poor trans people and the black ones. They're screwed, like poor people always are.

So, your son was born male, white, and wealthy with smug parents like you who eagerly stack the deck for him. But all of that wasn't enough for the grasping narcissist you're raising. He also needed to colonize female identity and force others to recognize him as the woman he will never be. You were delighted, of course, because your precious white son should never hear the word no.

And you'd have us believe the backlash against pathologically entitled, acquisitive jerks like you and your son is somehow wrong. You're the best argument against yourself.

Trans thing aside, why are you calling people you don't know smug, narcissistic, colonizing, entitled jerks. Transphobia really is strange act like an adult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the data. Huge swings.AGAINST trans rights during the Biden administration. Republicans, Democrats, and Independents all swung same way. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/26/americans-have-grown-more-supportive-of-restrictions-for-trans-people-in-recent-years/

Toldju

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I always want to know who the "radical trans activists" are. I'm the mom of a trans daughter. I guess I am a "radical trans activist" because I care about my child's safety and life.

It's sort of this crazy idea that you become absolutely obsessed with trans people without actually being a trans person? It's like saying that a Jewish person is a "radical Jewish activist" because they care about antisemitism.

And what makes you the "radical" part? What makes you an "activist?" Can you not just care about trans people because you are one or you love one?

Personally, I could care less about the sports stuff. Republicans drummed all of this up to force Democrats to take a position. And I see it a lot like Obama saying he wasn't for gay marriage, when of course he was. He just couldn't say it and win. It means nothing. It affects hardly anyone. I do think Democrats should just give up on it temporarily because it will make Republicans have to find something else stupid to go crazy over, which of course they will.

Trans women in men's prisons is dangerous. That's going to cause rape and murder.

Forcing trans people to use bathrooms of their biological sex is dangerous. It only ends up being butch lesbians who are called out for no reason. It's so stupid, and if we all care that much, start adding more single bathrooms. You think trans people WANT to freak out when they have to pee?

I want the government to stay out of my kid's healthcare, and stay out of parents' rights to handle their kids' healthcare. Stop using terms like "mutilation" that are pejorative. That term could apply to all kinds of legal things people do to themselves.

I hate Republicans, and I hate transphobes. My kid is lucky. She has rich parents and rich grandparents, and she's white and pretty and smart and goes to a good college where she has a girlfriend and friends that don't care that she's trans. And she's studying for a career where she can make a good amount of money if she wants to. She is so well protected because she has supportive parents who are wealthy and white.

I admit I do take some joy in that--knowing that there is really nothing these bigots can do to make my kid's life bad. She's always going to have more money than most of them. They can mess with her healthcare, but we will always help her find a way around that. In the worst case scenario, she would move to another country. Just like all rich people, the laws don't hurt her the way they do poor people.

Of course that doesn't help the poor trans people and the black ones. They're screwed, like poor people always are.

Lol. Don't look too far down your nose at the unfortunate "black ones." Your kid will be joining them in many respects.

Once Trump is done destroying legal recognition of gender identity, your kid won't be able to get any government ID without accepting that dreaded M for male that will out them. It will also be perfectly legal to exclude your kid from jobs, scholarships, opportunities, women's spaces etc.

The way things are going with Trump punishing people and institutions who support transgenderism, even trans people in rich, blue areas will become pariahs as the consequences of being seen as aligned with transgender people become too high.

You'll wish you hadn't sat around preening about how whiteness and wealth will make your kid an exception.

As far as those tearing down the transgender edifice are concerned, your white, rich kid is still just another mentally ill man to be punished for perpetrating a fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I always want to know who the "radical trans activists" are. I'm the mom of a trans daughter. I guess I am a "radical trans activist" because I care about my child's safety and life.

It's sort of this crazy idea that you become absolutely obsessed with trans people without actually being a trans person? It's like saying that a Jewish person is a "radical Jewish activist" because they care about antisemitism.

And what makes you the "radical" part? What makes you an "activist?" Can you not just care about trans people because you are one or you love one?

Personally, I could care less about the sports stuff. Republicans drummed all of this up to force Democrats to take a position. And I see it a lot like Obama saying he wasn't for gay marriage, when of course he was. He just couldn't say it and win. It means nothing. It affects hardly anyone. I do think Democrats should just give up on it temporarily because it will make Republicans have to find something else stupid to go crazy over, which of course they will.

Trans women in men's prisons is dangerous. That's going to cause rape and murder.

Forcing trans people to use bathrooms of their biological sex is dangerous. It only ends up being butch lesbians who are called out for no reason. It's so stupid, and if we all care that much, start adding more single bathrooms. You think trans people WANT to freak out when they have to pee?

I want the government to stay out of my kid's healthcare, and stay out of parents' rights to handle their kids' healthcare. Stop using terms like "mutilation" that are pejorative. That term could apply to all kinds of legal things people do to themselves.

I hate Republicans, and I hate transphobes. My kid is lucky. She has rich parents and rich grandparents, and she's white and pretty and smart and goes to a good college where she has a girlfriend and friends that don't care that she's trans. And she's studying for a career where she can make a good amount of money if she wants to. She is so well protected because she has supportive parents who are wealthy and white.

I admit I do take some joy in that--knowing that there is really nothing these bigots can do to make my kid's life bad. She's always going to have more money than most of them. They can mess with her healthcare, but we will always help her find a way around that. In the worst case scenario, she would move to another country. Just like all rich people, the laws don't hurt her the way they do poor people.

Of course that doesn't help the poor trans people and the black ones. They're screwed, like poor people always are.

So, your son was born male, white, and wealthy with smug parents like you who eagerly stack the deck for him. But all of that wasn't enough for the grasping narcissist you're raising. He also needed to colonize female identity and force others to recognize him as the woman he will never be. You were delighted, of course, because your precious white son should never hear the word no.

And you'd have us believe the backlash against pathologically entitled, acquisitive jerks like you and your son is somehow wrong. You're the best argument against yourself.

Trans thing aside, why are you calling people you don't know smug, narcissistic, colonizing, entitled jerks. Transphobia really is strange act like an adult.

If you can't comprehend that people's nature can be inferred from their words and actions, then you're not smart enough to join this discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. The trans agenda has been all or nothing strongarm tactics for over a decade. The manipulative line has been that any compromise on even their most anti-woman, child-endangering whims amounts to literal genocide. Now that they're in the process of getting the nothing they deserve, they declare they want a compromise. Too late. Let them serve as an object lesson to other arrogant, parasitic movements who think they're entitled to dictate to the rest of society.

I dont agree that we should have that type of attitude. Thats why were are dealing with Trump 2.0 now.

I do agree with McBride’s suggestions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Support for trans athletes and trans education in elementary schools has been falling in recent years. Trans folks themselves are being normalized, but voters are increasingly turned off by Democratic Party policies and annoying (cisgendered) upper middle class liberals who virtue signal about trans folks. If I were trans like Sarah McBride, I’d want Democrats to stop talking about me too. I never thought I’d say this, but Democrats are now LESS popular than trans folks.

The only people I hear yapping non stop about trans people are the right wingers. Sports this, bathrooms that, along with lots of complete BS about schools forcing sex change operations on children (lies). I'm sick of hearing about it.

Democrat entitlement is really something to behold! They don’t want to even HEAR about their least popular policies, the ones that drive swing voters into the arms of Republicans.

Sorry Dems. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If you don’t want your competitors teasing you for your weakest and least popular policies, the power is in your hands! Drop the policies!

Why are their bio males in the girls’ room, trans activists in elementary schools, and “gender affirming care” in the children’s hospitals? Because of Democrats! Of COURSE you’d rather not have voters thinking about that! But you brought it on yourselves.

Senate Dems just voted to keep bio males in the girls’ locker room. That’s your party, like it or not. And the swing voters will be hearing plenty about it during the midterms. If you don’t like it, write your Senators. Or vote against them in the primaries. It’s all up to you!

All of this.

It's rich to see Democrats crying about being
judged by the willful, ongoing misdeeds of their party.

I guess "protecting democracy" requires being allowed to vote rapists into women's prisons without being held accountable for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. The trans agenda has been all or nothing strongarm tactics for over a decade. The manipulative line has been that any compromise on even their most anti-woman, child-endangering whims amounts to literal genocide. Now that they're in the process of getting the nothing they deserve, they declare they want a compromise. Too late. Let them serve as an object lesson to other arrogant, parasitic movements who think they're entitled to dictate to the rest of society.

I dont agree that we should have that type of attitude. Thats why were are dealing with Trump 2.0 now.

I do agree with McBride’s suggestions.

It doesn't matter if you agree or not. The "compromise" being offered by this dangerous movement of fetishistic men is a trojan horse. As soon as they think the coast is clear, they'll resume their anti-democratic, fascist tactics to bend society to their will. They deserve to get nothing and to be pushed back to the fringe for good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. The trans agenda has been all or nothing strongarm tactics for over a decade. The manipulative line has been that any compromise on even their most anti-woman, child-endangering whims amounts to literal genocide. Now that they're in the process of getting the nothing they deserve, they declare they want a compromise. Too late. Let them serve as an object lesson to other arrogant, parasitic movements who think they're entitled to dictate to the rest of society.

I dont agree that we should have that type of attitude. Thats why were are dealing with Trump 2.0 now.

I do agree with McBride’s suggestions.

It doesn't matter if you agree or not. The "compromise" being offered by this dangerous movement of fetishistic men is a trojan horse. As soon as they think the coast is clear, they'll resume their anti-democratic, fascist tactics to bend society to their will. They deserve to get nothing and to be pushed back to the fringe for good.

My agreement matters as much as yours does. You sound hateful and bitter.