Broke due to child support and alimony

[Anonymous]

OP never came back. I’m calling troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to a different country and give up your citizenship. Send checks only to coveje kids.

US divorce courts are GROSSLY unfair to men. Period.

The faster you get out the better. Singapore speaks English everywhere. You are literally a modern day slave who'll keep laying alimony for for. It's slavery.

The data on courts being unfair to men would disagree with your assertion. In general, men tend to come out of divorces okay financially, but it often tips women and children into poverty.

Oh please, women get 'tipped into poverty' because they don't want to work or don't get jobs.

Why shouldn't it be a man's job to support an ex with alimony payments for virtually infinity to make sure she has a comfy lifestyle? There are no guarantees in life, lol. Should I get compensated from my brokerage account bank if I lose money on the stock market after making a bad stock pick too?

Sh!t, if a court forced me into barely liveable wages because they wanted me to pay insane amounts of child support and alimony per month I'd get the hell outta Dodge and move abroad. No way would I be shackled for years living a miserable life because my ex thinks she deserves thousands per month in alimony. It is just legalized slavery and/or indentured service.

So you would leave your children behind and move abroad to escape supporting them?
Or you would move your children to Singapore with you?

If you were to stay here, what is it that you want? You want to take the kids away from their mother and have full custody so that you don’t have to pay child support? Or you would want your kids to live in poverty half of the time or most of the time in order to pay less child support?

What is it that you want to spend your money on that’s more important than your kids?

[Anonymous]

LOL he doesn’t have kids he’s an incel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to a different country and give up your citizenship. Send checks only to coveje kids.

US divorce courts are GROSSLY unfair to men. Period.

The faster you get out the better. Singapore speaks English everywhere. You are literally a modern day slave who'll keep laying alimony for for. It's slavery.

The data on courts being unfair to men would disagree with your assertion. In general, men tend to come out of divorces okay financially, but it often tips women and children into poverty.

This.
I also saw a statistic that men who ask for custody get it 93% of the time.

I’m sure there are cases that are unfair toward men out there, but they certainly aren’t the majority.

I also saw at satistic that 97% of all alimony payments are made by men. This is even though these days 50% of the workforce is women and there are now more college graduates that are women than men. Alimony is supposed to be gender neutral, yet courts are massively biased against men when it comes to alimony payments.

The most recent statistics I can find is that men received alimony in 0.5% of cases in 2000, 3% of cases in 2010, and 10% of cases in 2018. I can only imagine that it’s higher now.

Also, there is nothing to suggest that this is the courts being biased against men. Men receive alimony over 90% of the time they apply for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am broke due to the amount I am paying in child support and alimony. Ex wife refused mediation and now I understand why. Before people jumped and I say I deserve this and so forth there was no physical or verbal or financial abuse no cheating on either side. The marriage just broke down.

The percentage of my monthly take home that goes to child support and alimony is insane. And worse child support exclude sports activities. So our children had to give up swimming and tennis respectively. Their mom seems like she can care less because she got what she wanted anyways. The amount we were spending on our kids while we were married is far less than what I am sending her for child support.

Now I see why some people are eager to file for divorce. The financial incentives are good in some cases for one of the party.

I don’t even know where to begin to rebuild my life. Forget about dating in this modern era where impressing your date is a key condition. And not sure how to do that when you are broke.

I am just ranting. Don’t marry someone who doesn’t have the same exact earning potential as you. My ex was not a stay at home mom. She did earn less than me.

Ugh, why are even thinking about dating right now when you know your kids gave up ECs. Before you buy some random women dinner hoping to get into her panties you should pay for things your kids enjoy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to a different country and give up your citizenship. Send checks only to coveje kids.

US divorce courts are GROSSLY unfair to men. Period.

The faster you get out the better. Singapore speaks English everywhere. You are literally a modern day slave who'll keep laying alimony for for. It's slavery.

The data on courts being unfair to men would disagree with your assertion. In general, men tend to come out of divorces okay financially, but it often tips women and children into poverty.

Oh please, women get 'tipped into poverty' because they don't want to work or don't get jobs.

Why shouldn't it be a man's job to support an ex with alimony payments for virtually infinity to make sure she has a comfy lifestyle? There are no guarantees in life, lol. Should I get compensated from my brokerage account bank if I lose money on the stock market after making a bad stock pick too?

Sh!t, if a court forced me into barely liveable wages because they wanted me to pay insane amounts of child support and alimony per month I'd get the hell outta Dodge and move abroad. No way would I be shackled for years living a miserable life because my ex thinks she deserves thousands per month in alimony. It is just legalized slavery and/or indentured service.

So you would leave your children behind and move abroad to escape supporting them?
Or you would move your children to Singapore with you?

If you were to stay here, what is it that you want? You want to take the kids away from their mother and have full custody so that you don’t have to pay child support? Or you would want your kids to live in poverty half of the time or most of the time in order to pay less child support?

What is it that you want to spend your money on that’s more important than your kids?

I have no problems giving child support payments. What I have a problem with is alimony and the expectation that I should be financially supporting an ex-spouses lifestyle. The entire concept is asinine. The ex spouse can get a job if they need money. It's not my responsibility to make sure my ex has a certain lifestyle threshold.

If I ever got saddled with years or permanent alimony you can sure as hell bet I'd give up my citizenship and move abroad. I wouldn't even care if I had to work as a bus boy in a restaurant abroad....as long as I'm giving an ex spouse $0 it'd be worth it. They can hire expensive lawyers to pick over the carcass of any social security entitlements for all I care.

I'd let the kids decide where they'd want to live - the US or Singapore. NBD. I'd make it well aware to them that Singapore has far better healthcare, better education, no guns, and basically no crime. Plus amazing food scenes. I could easily sell them on moving there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to a different country and give up your citizenship. Send checks only to coveje kids.

US divorce courts are GROSSLY unfair to men. Period.

The faster you get out the better. Singapore speaks English everywhere. You are literally a modern day slave who'll keep laying alimony for for. It's slavery.

The data on courts being unfair to men would disagree with your assertion. In general, men tend to come out of divorces okay financially, but it often tips women and children into poverty.

Oh please, women get 'tipped into poverty' because they don't want to work or don't get jobs.

Why shouldn't it be a man's job to support an ex with alimony payments for virtually infinity to make sure she has a comfy lifestyle? There are no guarantees in life, lol. Should I get compensated from my brokerage account bank if I lose money on the stock market after making a bad stock pick too?

Sh!t, if a court forced me into barely liveable wages because they wanted me to pay insane amounts of child support and alimony per month I'd get the hell outta Dodge and move abroad. No way would I be shackled for years living a miserable life because my ex thinks she deserves thousands per month in alimony. It is just legalized slavery and/or indentured service.

So you would leave your children behind and move abroad to escape supporting them?
Or you would move your children to Singapore with you?

If you were to stay here, what is it that you want? You want to take the kids away from their mother and have full custody so that you don’t have to pay child support? Or you would want your kids to live in poverty half of the time or most of the time in order to pay less child support?

What is it that you want to spend your money on that’s more important than your kids?

I have no problems giving child support payments. What I have a problem with is alimony and the expectation that I should be financially supporting an ex-spouses lifestyle. The entire concept is asinine. The ex spouse can get a job if they need money. It's not my responsibility to make sure my ex has a certain lifestyle threshold.

If I ever got saddled with years or permanent alimony you can sure as hell bet I'd give up my citizenship and move abroad. I wouldn't even care if I had to work as a bus boy in a restaurant abroad....as long as I'm giving an ex spouse $0 it'd be worth it. They can hire expensive lawyers to pick over the carcass of any social security entitlements for all I care.

I'd let the kids decide where they'd want to live - the US or Singapore. NBD. I'd make it well aware to them that Singapore has far better healthcare, better education, no guns, and basically no crime. Plus amazing food scenes. I could easily sell them on moving there.

Luckily no one would ever be dumb enough to have kids with you. Enjoy your extended adolescence and please take your genes with you on your way out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am broke due to the amount I am paying in child support and alimony. Ex wife refused mediation and now I understand why. Before people jumped and I say I deserve this and so forth there was no physical or verbal or financial abuse no cheating on either side. The marriage just broke down.

The percentage of my monthly take home that goes to child support and alimony is insane. And worse child support exclude sports activities. So our children had to give up swimming and tennis respectively. Their mom seems like she can care less because she got what she wanted anyways. The amount we were spending on our kids while we were married is far less than what I am sending her for child support.

Now I see why some people are eager to file for divorce. The financial incentives are good in some cases for one of the party.

I don’t even know where to begin to rebuild my life. Forget about dating in this modern era where impressing your date is a key condition. And not sure how to do that when you are broke.

I am just ranting. Don’t marry someone who doesn’t have the same exact earning potential as you. My ex was not a stay at home mom. She did earn less than me.

Ugh, why are even thinking about dating right now when you know your kids gave up ECs. Before you buy some random women dinner hoping to get into her panties you should pay for things your kids enjoy.

Maybe mom can pay for the activities out of her child support and alimony or her income. That's what the child support and her income is for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to a different country and give up your citizenship. Send checks only to coveje kids.

US divorce courts are GROSSLY unfair to men. Period.

The faster you get out the better. Singapore speaks English everywhere. You are literally a modern day slave who'll keep laying alimony for for. It's slavery.

The data on courts being unfair to men would disagree with your assertion. In general, men tend to come out of divorces okay financially, but it often tips women and children into poverty.

Oh please, women get 'tipped into poverty' because they don't want to work or don't get jobs.

Why shouldn't it be a man's job to support an ex with alimony payments for virtually infinity to make sure she has a comfy lifestyle? There are no guarantees in life, lol. Should I get compensated from my brokerage account bank if I lose money on the stock market after making a bad stock pick too?

Sh!t, if a court forced me into barely liveable wages because they wanted me to pay insane amounts of child support and alimony per month I'd get the hell outta Dodge and move abroad. No way would I be shackled for years living a miserable life because my ex thinks she deserves thousands per month in alimony. It is just legalized slavery and/or indentured service.

So you would leave your children behind and move abroad to escape supporting them?
Or you would move your children to Singapore with you?

If you were to stay here, what is it that you want? You want to take the kids away from their mother and have full custody so that you don’t have to pay child support? Or you would want your kids to live in poverty half of the time or most of the time in order to pay less child support?

What is it that you want to spend your money on that’s more important than your kids?

I have no problems giving child support payments. What I have a problem with is alimony and the expectation that I should be financially supporting an ex-spouses lifestyle. The entire concept is asinine. The ex spouse can get a job if they need money. It's not my responsibility to make sure my ex has a certain lifestyle threshold.

If I ever got saddled with years or permanent alimony you can sure as hell bet I'd give up my citizenship and move abroad. I wouldn't even care if I had to work as a bus boy in a restaurant abroad....as long as I'm giving an ex spouse $0 it'd be worth it. They can hire expensive lawyers to pick over the carcass of any social security entitlements for all I care.

I'd let the kids decide where they'd want to live - the US or Singapore. NBD. I'd make it well aware to them that Singapore has far better healthcare, better education, no guns, and basically no crime. Plus amazing food scenes. I could easily sell them on moving there.

Luckily no one would ever be dumb enough to have kids with you. Enjoy your extended adolescence and please take your genes with you on your way out.

Salty cat lady mad men fight back against unfair law requiring them to fund their lifestyle.

Get a job you lazy bum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to a different country and give up your citizenship. Send checks only to coveje kids.

US divorce courts are GROSSLY unfair to men. Period.

The faster you get out the better. Singapore speaks English everywhere. You are literally a modern day slave who'll keep laying alimony for for. It's slavery.

The data on courts being unfair to men would disagree with your assertion. In general, men tend to come out of divorces okay financially, but it often tips women and children into poverty.

This.
I also saw a statistic that men who ask for custody get it 93% of the time.

I’m sure there are cases that are unfair toward men out there, but they certainly aren’t the majority.

I also saw at satistic that 97% of all alimony payments are made by men. This is even though these days 50% of the workforce is women and there are now more college graduates that are women than men. Alimony is supposed to be gender neutral, yet courts are massively biased against men when it comes to alimony payments.

Gosh, yes there are just so many men downshifting job to support their hard working wives in top jobs. They all get alimony since those guys with the dad jobs supported the house, family and kids whilst Mom focused on her career building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to a different country and give up your citizenship. Send checks only to coveje kids.

US divorce courts are GROSSLY unfair to men. Period.

The faster you get out the better. Singapore speaks English everywhere. You are literally a modern day slave who'll keep laying alimony for for. It's slavery.

The data on courts being unfair to men would disagree with your assertion. In general, men tend to come out of divorces okay financially, but it often tips women and children into poverty.

Oh please, women get 'tipped into poverty' because they don't want to work or don't get jobs.

Why shouldn't it be a man's job to support an ex with alimony payments for virtually infinity to make sure she has a comfy lifestyle? There are no guarantees in life, lol. Should I get compensated from my brokerage account bank if I lose money on the stock market after making a bad stock pick too?

Sh!t, if a court forced me into barely liveable wages because they wanted me to pay insane amounts of child support and alimony per month I'd get the hell outta Dodge and move abroad. No way would I be shackled for years living a miserable life because my ex thinks she deserves thousands per month in alimony. It is just legalized slavery and/or indentured service.

So you would leave your children behind and move abroad to escape supporting them?
Or you would move your children to Singapore with you?

If you were to stay here, what is it that you want? You want to take the kids away from their mother and have full custody so that you don’t have to pay child support? Or you would want your kids to live in poverty half of the time or most of the time in order to pay less child support?

What is it that you want to spend your money on that’s more important than your kids?

I have no problems giving child support payments. What I have a problem with is alimony and the expectation that I should be financially supporting an ex-spouses lifestyle. The entire concept is asinine. The ex spouse can get a job if they need money. It's not my responsibility to make sure my ex has a certain lifestyle threshold.

If I ever got saddled with years or permanent alimony you can sure as hell bet I'd give up my citizenship and move abroad. I wouldn't even care if I had to work as a bus boy in a restaurant abroad....as long as I'm giving an ex spouse $0 it'd be worth it. They can hire expensive lawyers to pick over the carcass of any social security entitlements for all I care.

I'd let the kids decide where they'd want to live - the US or Singapore. NBD. I'd make it well aware to them that Singapore has far better healthcare, better education, no guns, and basically no crime. Plus amazing food scenes. I could easily sell them on moving there.

So, you would be okay with paying for childcare, but not with food or clothes or utilities for your children? Would you pay your ex-spouse for half the PTO they would need to take for sick kids, snow days, etc? Or just paying them something for doing all of the childcare?

And how would you take care of children working as a bus boy in Singapore? Doesn’t that sound harder than giving your ex-spouse $500/month in alimony or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to a different country and give up your citizenship. Send checks only to coveje kids.

US divorce courts are GROSSLY unfair to men. Period.

The faster you get out the better. Singapore speaks English everywhere. You are literally a modern day slave who'll keep laying alimony for for. It's slavery.

The data on courts being unfair to men would disagree with your assertion. In general, men tend to come out of divorces okay financially, but it often tips women and children into poverty.

This.
I also saw a statistic that men who ask for custody get it 93% of the time.

I’m sure there are cases that are unfair toward men out there, but they certainly aren’t the majority.

I also saw at satistic that 97% of all alimony payments are made by men. This is even though these days 50% of the workforce is women and there are now more college graduates that are women than men. Alimony is supposed to be gender neutral, yet courts are massively biased against men when it comes to alimony payments.

Gosh, yes there are just so many men downshifting job to support their hard working wives in top jobs. They all get alimony since those guys with the dad jobs supported the house, family and kids whilst Mom focused on her career building.

The men I know who did this DO get alimony.
Honestly, the men who were in and out of rehab throughout the marriage get alimony. Nearly every man who asks for alimony gets it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move to a different country and give up your citizenship. Send checks only to coveje kids.

US divorce courts are GROSSLY unfair to men. Period.

The faster you get out the better. Singapore speaks English everywhere. You are literally a modern day slave who'll keep laying alimony for for. It's slavery.

The data on courts being unfair to men would disagree with your assertion. In general, men tend to come out of divorces okay financially, but it often tips women and children into poverty.

Oh please, women get 'tipped into poverty' because they don't want to work or don't get jobs.

Why shouldn't it be a man's job to support an ex with alimony payments for virtually infinity to make sure she has a comfy lifestyle? There are no guarantees in life, lol. Should I get compensated from my brokerage account bank if I lose money on the stock market after making a bad stock pick too?

Sh!t, if a court forced me into barely liveable wages because they wanted me to pay insane amounts of child support and alimony per month I'd get the hell outta Dodge and move abroad. No way would I be shackled for years living a miserable life because my ex thinks she deserves thousands per month in alimony. It is just legalized slavery and/or indentured service.

So you would leave your children behind and move abroad to escape supporting them?
Or you would move your children to Singapore with you?

If you were to stay here, what is it that you want? You want to take the kids away from their mother and have full custody so that you don’t have to pay child support? Or you would want your kids to live in poverty half of the time or most of the time in order to pay less child support?

What is it that you want to spend your money on that’s more important than your kids?

I have no problems giving child support payments. What I have a problem with is alimony and the expectation that I should be financially supporting an ex-spouses lifestyle. The entire concept is asinine. The ex spouse can get a job if they need money. It's not my responsibility to make sure my ex has a certain lifestyle threshold.

If I ever got saddled with years or permanent alimony you can sure as hell bet I'd give up my citizenship and move abroad. I wouldn't even care if I had to work as a bus boy in a restaurant abroad....as long as I'm giving an ex spouse $0 it'd be worth it. They can hire expensive lawyers to pick over the carcass of any social security entitlements for all I care.

I'd let the kids decide where they'd want to live - the US or Singapore. NBD. I'd make it well aware to them that Singapore has far better healthcare, better education, no guns, and basically no crime. Plus amazing food scenes. I could easily sell them on moving there.

Luckily no one would ever be dumb enough to have kids with you. Enjoy your extended adolescence and please take your genes with you on your way out.

Salty cat lady mad men fight back against unfair law requiring them to fund their lifestyle.

Get a job you lazy bum.

Is pp a sad cat lady?
I thought she was a married mother with several lovers on the side…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am broke due to the amount I am paying in child support and alimony. Ex wife refused mediation and now I understand why. Before people jumped and I say I deserve this and so forth there was no physical or verbal or financial abuse no cheating on either side. The marriage just broke down.

The percentage of my monthly take home that goes to child support and alimony is insane. And worse child support exclude sports activities. So our children had to give up swimming and tennis respectively. Their mom seems like she can care less because she got what she wanted anyways. The amount we were spending on our kids while we were married is far less than what I am sending her for child support.

Now I see why some people are eager to file for divorce. The financial incentives are good in some cases for one of the party.

I don’t even know where to begin to rebuild my life. Forget about dating in this modern era where impressing your date is a key condition. And not sure how to do that when you are broke.

I am just ranting. Don’t marry someone who doesn’t have the same exact earning potential as you. My ex was not a stay at home mom. She did earn less than me.

Ugh, why are even thinking about dating right now when you know your kids gave up ECs. Before you buy some random women dinner hoping to get into her panties you should pay for things your kids enjoy.

Maybe mom can pay for the activities out of her child support and alimony or her income. That's what the child support and her income is for.

Nope. CS isn’t supposed to be the NCP’s sole contribution to the support of the child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ido think it can be crushing for some people at certain income levels. My brother’s wife was sooo lazy, she quit her job to stay home with the kids but never took care of them and was out sleeping around instead. After she left (for her AP who promptly dumped her) he got stuck with a large 10 year alimony obligation plus child support. She then never watched the kids or bought them antytgkng like clothes, shoes etc so he had to do all that as well. He tried to get a modification but the judge yelled at him about how he had a college degree and his wife didn’t. She finally did get a job after he alimony ran out and her sister kicked her out. In retrospect, I think she married my brother because the alimony from her first marriage has just run out Che ended up paying child support on kids that weren’t even biologically his but he didn’t want the kid to feel totally disowned since the AP refused to take responsibility.

And women will still tell you it’s fair. Men are incredibly stupid. They keep marrying these bizarre women and are then stunned when stuff like this happened.