Can someone explain why Miami turned red?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cubans.

Nothing to do with "socialism is Dems GOP spewing"

They are not stupid.

Abortion.

That said the younger Cubans are figuring it out. In another election cycle we will see a turn to Dems.

You refuse to understand that we don’t care about party. We care about issues. Democrats have turned away from the issues that won over Latinos and immigrants and you will keep losing us until you find your way back.

This predatory tactic where you try to cut the younger generation off from the older generation to indoctrinate them is not going to work on Latinos. Our families are too strong. I’m 32 years old and I’ve been voting Republican for 6 years now. I flirted with Democrats when I was in college, but by the time I left corporate America after 8 years, I was voting Republican. At the end of the day, I want to raise a family, start a business, and keep my cultural ties. White liberals don’t have anything to offer me.

You’re just parroting talking points.

I’m sure you think your positions are so original.

Better than whatever your right wing masters are telling you to think.

LOL you seriously aren't claiming that Democrats do not enforce thought control?

Like what?

OK....what do you think would happen to a Democrat politician or even a high schooler in a Democrat-leaning jurisdiction who would say:

"Most trans kids grow out of this phase and grow up comfortable with their birth gender. There should be no medically assisted transition for anyone under 18, and only very cautious transition after that. Social transition for the under 18 is not recommended either. Most kids claiming to be trans turn out not to be."

Why are you so obsessed with trans people?

Answer the question if you can.

They probably wouldn’t be very well liked since it’s weird and authoritarian to dictate what people can and can’t do with their bodies and how they can or can’t present themselves. But I’m sure this would appeal to people who like the authoritarian aspect of it. How is that thought police? Answer the question if you can

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. So they don't seem to realize that most conservative Americans would not accept Hispanic looking people who speak Spanish and have allegiance to another country?

You're incredibly clueless and bigoted.

Let me guess: you vote Dem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the blame is with Florida Democrats. It's really just an incompetent party here. Terrible at candidate cultivation, terrible at outreach with Cubans - or Puerto Ricans, Venezuelans, or other Spanish-speaking groups of voters.

Everyone was sounding this alarm during the 2020 election - that the Biden campaign just wasn't reaching Spanish speaking voters. And then that's exactly what happened. So what was the response in 2022? Still no outreach.

I don't think it would be all that massively hard to turn some of this around. But you'd have to put money, effort, time, and people into doing it.

I agree. Nature abhors a vacuum and the Republicans saw an opportunity and exploited it. Upthread someone mentioned a firehouse of nonstop right wing propaganda that is not refuted, if Dems go in and listen to what communities want and need and do what they do best and actually assist people with finding solutions to their problems, this will turn around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cubans.

Nothing to do with "socialism is Dems GOP spewing"

They are not stupid.

Abortion.

That said the younger Cubans are figuring it out. In another election cycle we will see a turn to Dems.

You refuse to understand that we don’t care about party. We care about issues. Democrats have turned away from the issues that won over Latinos and immigrants and you will keep losing us until you find your way back.

This predatory tactic where you try to cut the younger generation off from the older generation to indoctrinate them is not going to work on Latinos. Our families are too strong. I’m 32 years old and I’ve been voting Republican for 6 years now. I flirted with Democrats when I was in college, but by the time I left corporate America after 8 years, I was voting Republican. At the end of the day, I want to raise a family, start a business, and keep my cultural ties. White liberals don’t have anything to offer me.

You’re just parroting talking points.

I’m sure you think your positions are so original.

Better than whatever your right wing masters are telling you to think.

LOL you seriously aren't claiming that Democrats do not enforce thought control?

Like what?

OK....what do you think would happen to a Democrat politician or even a high schooler in a Democrat-leaning jurisdiction who would say:

"Most trans kids grow out of this phase and grow up comfortable with their birth gender. There should be no medically assisted transition for anyone under 18, and only very cautious transition after that. Social transition for the under 18 is not recommended either. Most kids claiming to be trans turn out not to be."

Is there any evidence that’s true?

Yes. It is the just-released UK NHS guidance after many years of unquestioned affirmation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cubans.

Nothing to do with "socialism is Dems GOP spewing"

They are not stupid.

Abortion.

That said the younger Cubans are figuring it out. In another election cycle we will see a turn to Dems.

You refuse to understand that we don’t care about party. We care about issues. Democrats have turned away from the issues that won over Latinos and immigrants and you will keep losing us until you find your way back.

This predatory tactic where you try to cut the younger generation off from the older generation to indoctrinate them is not going to work on Latinos. Our families are too strong. I’m 32 years old and I’ve been voting Republican for 6 years now. I flirted with Democrats when I was in college, but by the time I left corporate America after 8 years, I was voting Republican. At the end of the day, I want to raise a family, start a business, and keep my cultural ties. White liberals don’t have anything to offer me.

You’re just parroting talking points.

I’m sure you think your positions are so original.

Better than whatever your right wing masters are telling you to think.

LOL you seriously aren't claiming that Democrats do not enforce thought control?

Like what?

OK....what do you think would happen to a Democrat politician or even a high schooler in a Democrat-leaning jurisdiction who would say:

"Most trans kids grow out of this phase and grow up comfortable with their birth gender. There should be no medically assisted transition for anyone under 18, and only very cautious transition after that. Social transition for the under 18 is not recommended either. Most kids claiming to be trans turn out not to be."

Why are you so obsessed with trans people?

Answer the question if you can.

They probably wouldn’t be very well liked since it’s weird and authoritarian to dictate what people can and can’t do with their bodies and how they can or can’t present themselves. But I’m sure this would appeal to people who like the authoritarian aspect of it. How is that thought police? Answer the question if you can

What does any of this even have to do with the post? I’m so sick of Republicans being obsessed with trans people. It’s exhausting. Transgender people are real. We exist. The election is over, you can stop pretending to care about us now. Hating trans people isn’t a winning campaign strategy. I suggest you find a new one next cycle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of the blame is with Florida Democrats. It's really just an incompetent party here. Terrible at candidate cultivation, terrible at outreach with Cubans - or Puerto Ricans, Venezuelans, or other Spanish-speaking groups of voters.

Everyone was sounding this alarm during the 2020 election - that the Biden campaign just wasn't reaching Spanish speaking voters. And then that's exactly what happened. So what was the response in 2022? Still no outreach.

I don't think it would be all that massively hard to turn some of this around. But you'd have to put money, effort, time, and people into doing it.

I agree. Nature abhors a vacuum and the Republicans saw an opportunity and exploited it. Upthread someone mentioned a firehouse of nonstop right wing propaganda that is not refuted, if Dems go in and listen to what communities want and need and do what they do best and actually assist people with finding solutions to their problems, this will turn around.

Yeah - and cultivate some Hispanic candidates. Is that really so hard?!

I am extremely frustrated with my state politics right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

The election said otherwise. MAYBE you mean "Miami-Dade whites and Hispanics are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cubans.

Nothing to do with "socialism is Dems GOP spewing"

They are not stupid.

Abortion.

That said the younger Cubans are figuring it out. In another election cycle we will see a turn to Dems.

You refuse to understand that we don’t care about party. We care about issues. Democrats have turned away from the issues that won over Latinos and immigrants and you will keep losing us until you find your way back.

This predatory tactic where you try to cut the younger generation off from the older generation to indoctrinate them is not going to work on Latinos. Our families are too strong. I’m 32 years old and I’ve been voting Republican for 6 years now. I flirted with Democrats when I was in college, but by the time I left corporate America after 8 years, I was voting Republican. At the end of the day, I want to raise a family, start a business, and keep my cultural ties. White liberals don’t have anything to offer me.

You’re just parroting talking points.

I’m sure you think your positions are so original.

Better than whatever your right wing masters are telling you to think.

LOL you seriously aren't claiming that Democrats do not enforce thought control?

Like what?

OK....what do you think would happen to a Democrat politician or even a high schooler in a Democrat-leaning jurisdiction who would say:

"Most trans kids grow out of this phase and grow up comfortable with their birth gender. There should be no medically assisted transition for anyone under 18, and only very cautious transition after that. Social transition for the under 18 is not recommended either. Most kids claiming to be trans turn out not to be."

Yeah sorry. Me and my child get to decide what is best for them. Not the government.

No. If a medical licensing authority decides a certain type of treatment should no longer be offered, your opinion won’t matter.

[Anonymous]

I am curious how skin color factors into all of this. Hispanic is not a race it’s an ethnicity. There are white Hispanics, black Hispanics, and everything in between. My sense is that Hispanics with lighter skin and more European features have in many ways been accepted by whites in their community and are aligning with white conservatives. Hispanics with darker skin who are more black or indigenous looking may be less likely to achieve this same level of acceptance and may not reach the a higher SES either. Hispanics of color are probably less likely to see themselves as someone Republicans are looking out for.

My mom’s side of the family is Hispanic with more white European features, and they have seen some of this play out among other Hispanics we know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I follow politics closely and most urban centers across the whole country (and the world) tend to be more progressive than their rural or suburban counterparts. People willing to live in a city generally like people more and have less fear of others. So why did Miami turn red this election and will it swing back?

Miami is full of white supremacists. And yes, Cubans and Venezuelans like to think of themselves as white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cubans.

Nothing to do with "socialism is Dems GOP spewing"

They are not stupid.

Abortion.

That said the younger Cubans are figuring it out. In another election cycle we will see a turn to Dems.

You refuse to understand that we don’t care about party. We care about issues. Democrats have turned away from the issues that won over Latinos and immigrants and you will keep losing us until you find your way back.

This predatory tactic where you try to cut the younger generation off from the older generation to indoctrinate them is not going to work on Latinos. Our families are too strong. I’m 32 years old and I’ve been voting Republican for 6 years now. I flirted with Democrats when I was in college, but by the time I left corporate America after 8 years, I was voting Republican. At the end of the day, I want to raise a family, start a business, and keep my cultural ties. White liberals don’t have anything to offer me.

You’re just parroting talking points.

I’m sure you think your positions are so original.

Better than whatever your right wing masters are telling you to think.

LOL you seriously aren't claiming that Democrats do not enforce thought control?

Like what?

OK....what do you think would happen to a Democrat politician or even a high schooler in a Democrat-leaning jurisdiction who would say:

"Most trans kids grow out of this phase and grow up comfortable with their birth gender. There should be no medically assisted transition for anyone under 18, and only very cautious transition after that. Social transition for the under 18 is not recommended either. Most kids claiming to be trans turn out not to be."

Yeah sorry. Me and my child get to decide what is best for them. Not the government.

No. If a medical licensing authority decides a certain type of treatment should no longer be offered, your opinion won’t matter.

Yeah, they also claimed that allowing your child to wear clothes associated with the opposite gender will harm them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

The election said otherwise. MAYBE you mean "Miami-Dade whites and Hispanics are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans."

Are you simple? The election precisely repudiated your idiocy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am curious how skin color factors into all of this. Hispanic is not a race it’s an ethnicity. There are white Hispanics, black Hispanics, and everything in between. My sense is that Hispanics with lighter skin and more European features have in many ways been accepted by whites in their community and are aligning with white conservatives. Hispanics with darker skin who are more black or indigenous looking may be less likely to achieve this same level of acceptance and may not reach the a higher SES either. Hispanics of color are probably less likely to see themselves as someone Republicans are looking out for.

My mom’s side of the family is Hispanic with more white European features, and they have seen some of this play out among other Hispanics we know.

In my opinion, a lot although it also has a lot to do with internal community factors. Colorism does exist there as well while Guatemalans and Salvadorans are often looked down on by other Central Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the “illegal immigration” misinformation spread by the right is key here as well. The right has figured out how to play on the elitism of immigrants and second generation Americans by vilifying migrants arriving now. See also DeSantis’s horrific stunt.

Racism and elitism exists in every culture and the right messages in a way that speaks to this. Never mind that Trump et al are white nationalists and think any non aryan is subhuman. As long as the right manipulate folks into voting for them, that’s all that matter.

I find it wholly ironic that Cubans and Venezuelans, many of whom are refugees and asylum seekers, would vote for a party that wants to limit refugees and asylum seekers. Typical R attitude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cubans.

Nothing to do with "socialism is Dems GOP spewing"

They are not stupid.

Abortion.

That said the younger Cubans are figuring it out. In another election cycle we will see a turn to Dems.

You refuse to understand that we don’t care about party. We care about issues. Democrats have turned away from the issues that won over Latinos and immigrants and you will keep losing us until you find your way back.

This predatory tactic where you try to cut the younger generation off from the older generation to indoctrinate them is not going to work on Latinos. Our families are too strong. I’m 32 years old and I’ve been voting Republican for 6 years now. I flirted with Democrats when I was in college, but by the time I left corporate America after 8 years, I was voting Republican. At the end of the day, I want to raise a family, start a business, and keep my cultural ties. White liberals don’t have anything to offer me.

You’re just parroting talking points.

I’m sure you think your positions are so original.

Better than whatever your right wing masters are telling you to think.

LOL you seriously aren't claiming that Democrats do not enforce thought control?

Like what?

OK....what do you think would happen to a Democrat politician or even a high schooler in a Democrat-leaning jurisdiction who would say:

"Most trans kids grow out of this phase and grow up comfortable with their birth gender. There should be no medically assisted transition for anyone under 18, and only very cautious transition after that. Social transition for the under 18 is not recommended either. Most kids claiming to be trans turn out not to be."

Yeah sorry. Me and my child get to decide what is best for them. Not the government.

No. If a medical licensing authority decides a certain type of treatment should no longer be offered, your opinion won’t matter.

Yeah, they also claimed that allowing your child to wear clothes associated with the opposite gender will harm them.

I mean you either trust the NHS or you don’t.