Can someone explain why Miami turned red?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

Speaking as a (non-Spanish speaking) foreigner, I have to add that many posters on here automatically equate immigrants with the left, thinking that they're all low-income and want a social safety net. Which many do, of course, but here the left is awash with social mores that are WAY OUT THERE compared to social mores elsewhere in the world... where we come from. In my western European country, with great affordable healthcare and worker protections, there'd be an uproar if we started talking about transgenderism and affirmative action and race reparations the way Americans do (granted, Europe doesn't have the same history of slavery on its own soil, but there's plenty of racism and gender discrimination going on). The left-wing in my country is not obsessed with discussing race and gender like people do here. I understand that progressives want everyone to feel secure and confident in their own identities! But it just seems so.. voyeuristic and prurient!

And I am a leftist myself. However I recognize, based on what made left-wing parties successful around the world, that here the left needs to insist on affordable medication, affordable and geographically accessible healthcare, a basic federal standard of education that's a little more elevated than the rock-bottom one you have, more worker protections... not LGBTQ+ and affirmative action stuff.

PP here. You get it. American-born Democrats talk exclusively to each other about us and then wonder why the nonsense they come up with doesn’t win us over. What the left over here had degraded into has left it completely unlike the left everywhere in the world. I mean the idea that I have to sign onto men in women’s prisons if I want affordable medication? No. No. No. They can keep all their handouts and their radical fascist transformation of society into something unrecognizable. We like strong families where I come from and I take it for granted that we should know exactly what’s being taught to our kids. We don’t believe in making middle-class business owners the enemy and cheering tenants cheating landlords. That’s crazy. That’s how the Soviet Union, Sandinistas, all sorts of horrible, murderous movements started. America will learn that only bad people with a terrible agenda demand top-down control and a forcible transformation of society that undermines the family and stigmatizes entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile strivers. They ALWAYS start out preaching class warfare and promising untold handouts. Then the handouts disappear and the cudgels appear. Most of us immigrants have already learned and gotten the tee shirts!

American Republicans are problematic, but they’re not trying to punish me for having worked my way from the bottom to a nice lifestyle and they’re not trying to get between me and my children or paint me as a bigot for not denying what my eyes tell me about the immutable reality (and beauty) of sex-based differences.

Typical right-wing propaganda.

Typical Democrat condescension and dishonesty. Goodness, why don’t we vote for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

Speaking as a (non-Spanish speaking) foreigner, I have to add that many posters on here automatically equate immigrants with the left, thinking that they're all low-income and want a social safety net. Which many do, of course, but here the left is awash with social mores that are WAY OUT THERE compared to social mores elsewhere in the world... where we come from. In my western European country, with great affordable healthcare and worker protections, there'd be an uproar if we started talking about transgenderism and affirmative action and race reparations the way Americans do (granted, Europe doesn't have the same history of slavery on its own soil, but there's plenty of racism and gender discrimination going on). The left-wing in my country is not obsessed with discussing race and gender like people do here. I understand that progressives want everyone to feel secure and confident in their own identities! But it just seems so.. voyeuristic and prurient!

And I am a leftist myself. However I recognize, based on what made left-wing parties successful around the world, that here the left needs to insist on affordable medication, affordable and geographically accessible healthcare, a basic federal standard of education that's a little more elevated than the rock-bottom one you have, more worker protections... not LGBTQ+ and affirmative action stuff.

PP here. You get it. American-born Democrats talk exclusively to each other about us and then wonder why the nonsense they come up with doesn’t win us over. What the left over here had degraded into has left it completely unlike the left everywhere in the world. I mean the idea that I have to sign onto men in women’s prisons if I want affordable medication? No. No. No. They can keep all their handouts and their radical fascist transformation of society into something unrecognizable. We like strong families where I come from and I take it for granted that we should know exactly what’s being taught to our kids. We don’t believe in making middle-class business owners the enemy and cheering tenants cheating landlords. That’s crazy. That’s how the Soviet Union, Sandinistas, all sorts of horrible, murderous movements started. America will learn that only bad people with a terrible agenda demand top-down control and a forcible transformation of society that undermines the family and stigmatizes entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile strivers. They ALWAYS start out preaching class warfare and promising untold handouts. Then the handouts disappear and the cudgels appear. Most of us immigrants have already learned and gotten the tee shirts!

American Republicans are problematic, but they’re not trying to punish me for having worked my way from the bottom to a nice lifestyle and they’re not trying to get between me and my children or paint me as a bigot for not denying what my eyes tell me about the immutable reality (and beauty) of sex-based differences.

I think this is the crux. But the sound bites coming from the right exacerbate this and many people believe the Dem platform is way more focused on these issues than it really is. Trans people make up a tiny, tiny percentage and their suicide rates are much, much higher than the general population. Can we just try to treat a mistreated group of people nicely even if we don’t understand it?

Dems should take the move towards the right by Miami Dade very seriously and take steps to bridge the gap. I’m amazed that the fear of “Socialism” on the left (which isn’t a thing) isn’t far, far outweighed by the lean towards fascism and fraud on the Right which *only* has a fear-based platform with zero answers to the problems they keep screaming about.

No. I will not lie about reality, confuse male with female, allow men to steal legal protections women have worked for, or turn a blind eye to any of the pernicious effects of your gender beliefs because someone threatens suicide. You talk about the right having a fear-based platform, but what exactly are you doing with this foolish talk of suicide if not trying to scare and manipulate people into submitting to your agenda?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

Speaking as a (non-Spanish speaking) foreigner, I have to add that many posters on here automatically equate immigrants with the left, thinking that they're all low-income and want a social safety net. Which many do, of course, but here the left is awash with social mores that are WAY OUT THERE compared to social mores elsewhere in the world... where we come from. In my western European country, with great affordable healthcare and worker protections, there'd be an uproar if we started talking about transgenderism and affirmative action and race reparations the way Americans do (granted, Europe doesn't have the same history of slavery on its own soil, but there's plenty of racism and gender discrimination going on). The left-wing in my country is not obsessed with discussing race and gender like people do here. I understand that progressives want everyone to feel secure and confident in their own identities! But it just seems so.. voyeuristic and prurient!

And I am a leftist myself. However I recognize, based on what made left-wing parties successful around the world, that here the left needs to insist on affordable medication, affordable and geographically accessible healthcare, a basic federal standard of education that's a little more elevated than the rock-bottom one you have, more worker protections... not LGBTQ+ and affirmative action stuff.

PP here. You get it. American-born Democrats talk exclusively to each other about us and then wonder why the nonsense they come up with doesn’t win us over. What the left over here had degraded into has left it completely unlike the left everywhere in the world. I mean the idea that I have to sign onto men in women’s prisons if I want affordable medication? No. No. No. They can keep all their handouts and their radical fascist transformation of society into something unrecognizable. We like strong families where I come from and I take it for granted that we should know exactly what’s being taught to our kids. We don’t believe in making middle-class business owners the enemy and cheering tenants cheating landlords. That’s crazy. That’s how the Soviet Union, Sandinistas, all sorts of horrible, murderous movements started. America will learn that only bad people with a terrible agenda demand top-down control and a forcible transformation of society that undermines the family and stigmatizes entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile strivers. They ALWAYS start out preaching class warfare and promising untold handouts. Then the handouts disappear and the cudgels appear. Most of us immigrants have already learned and gotten the tee shirts!

American Republicans are problematic, but they’re not trying to punish me for having worked my way from the bottom to a nice lifestyle and they’re not trying to get between me and my children or paint me as a bigot for not denying what my eyes tell me about the immutable reality (and beauty) of sex-based differences.

Typical right-wing propaganda.

Typical Democrat condescension and dishonesty. Goodness, why don’t we vote for you?

Judging by the results, we don’t really need you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

Speaking as a (non-Spanish speaking) foreigner, I have to add that many posters on here automatically equate immigrants with the left, thinking that they're all low-income and want a social safety net. Which many do, of course, but here the left is awash with social mores that are WAY OUT THERE compared to social mores elsewhere in the world... where we come from. In my western European country, with great affordable healthcare and worker protections, there'd be an uproar if we started talking about transgenderism and affirmative action and race reparations the way Americans do (granted, Europe doesn't have the same history of slavery on its own soil, but there's plenty of racism and gender discrimination going on). The left-wing in my country is not obsessed with discussing race and gender like people do here. I understand that progressives want everyone to feel secure and confident in their own identities! But it just seems so.. voyeuristic and prurient!

And I am a leftist myself. However I recognize, based on what made left-wing parties successful around the world, that here the left needs to insist on affordable medication, affordable and geographically accessible healthcare, a basic federal standard of education that's a little more elevated than the rock-bottom one you have, more worker protections... not LGBTQ+ and affirmative action stuff.

PP here. You get it. American-born Democrats talk exclusively to each other about us and then wonder why the nonsense they come up with doesn’t win us over. What the left over here had degraded into has left it completely unlike the left everywhere in the world. I mean the idea that I have to sign onto men in women’s prisons if I want affordable medication? No. No. No. They can keep all their handouts and their radical fascist transformation of society into something unrecognizable. We like strong families where I come from and I take it for granted that we should know exactly what’s being taught to our kids. We don’t believe in making middle-class business owners the enemy and cheering tenants cheating landlords. That’s crazy. That’s how the Soviet Union, Sandinistas, all sorts of horrible, murderous movements started. America will learn that only bad people with a terrible agenda demand top-down control and a forcible transformation of society that undermines the family and stigmatizes entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile strivers. They ALWAYS start out preaching class warfare and promising untold handouts. Then the handouts disappear and the cudgels appear. Most of us immigrants have already learned and gotten the tee shirts!

American Republicans are problematic, but they’re not trying to punish me for having worked my way from the bottom to a nice lifestyle and they’re not trying to get between me and my children or paint me as a bigot for not denying what my eyes tell me about the immutable reality (and beauty) of sex-based differences.

Typical right-wing propaganda.

Typical Democrat condescension and dishonesty. Goodness, why don’t we vote for you?

Judging by the results, we don’t really need you.

With this, you have given the thread starter his answer. You don’t want, need, or respect us and we’re very happy to vote against you. Everyone is happy. Go mix your own onions and I will mix mine. Done!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

As an African America, which you are so happy not to be, the reason it's shocking that Florida Latinos support Rs is because of how racist against Latinos they are. I certainly don't assume that immigrants are poor. Also, I don't give transgender issues a second thought, nor do any of my D friends. You see that on tv and assume that's how most Ds believe. No one is teaching a victim mentality to kids. It's called history and many people want to run from it.

“As an African America (sic), which you are happy not to be” - is not what the poster said. Stop projecting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

Speaking as a (non-Spanish speaking) foreigner, I have to add that many posters on here automatically equate immigrants with the left, thinking that they're all low-income and want a social safety net. Which many do, of course, but here the left is awash with social mores that are WAY OUT THERE compared to social mores elsewhere in the world... where we come from. In my western European country, with great affordable healthcare and worker protections, there'd be an uproar if we started talking about transgenderism and affirmative action and race reparations the way Americans do (granted, Europe doesn't have the same history of slavery on its own soil, but there's plenty of racism and gender discrimination going on). The left-wing in my country is not obsessed with discussing race and gender like people do here. I understand that progressives want everyone to feel secure and confident in their own identities! But it just seems so.. voyeuristic and prurient!

And I am a leftist myself. However I recognize, based on what made left-wing parties successful around the world, that here the left needs to insist on affordable medication, affordable and geographically accessible healthcare, a basic federal standard of education that's a little more elevated than the rock-bottom one you have, more worker protections... not LGBTQ+ and affirmative action stuff.

PP here. You get it. American-born Democrats talk exclusively to each other about us and then wonder why the nonsense they come up with doesn’t win us over. What the left over here had degraded into has left it completely unlike the left everywhere in the world. I mean the idea that I have to sign onto men in women’s prisons if I want affordable medication? No. No. No. They can keep all their handouts and their radical fascist transformation of society into something unrecognizable. We like strong families where I come from and I take it for granted that we should know exactly what’s being taught to our kids. We don’t believe in making middle-class business owners the enemy and cheering tenants cheating landlords. That’s crazy. That’s how the Soviet Union, Sandinistas, all sorts of horrible, murderous movements started. America will learn that only bad people with a terrible agenda demand top-down control and a forcible transformation of society that undermines the family and stigmatizes entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile strivers. They ALWAYS start out preaching class warfare and promising untold handouts. Then the handouts disappear and the cudgels appear. Most of us immigrants have already learned and gotten the tee shirts!

American Republicans are problematic, but they’re not trying to punish me for having worked my way from the bottom to a nice lifestyle and they’re not trying to get between me and my children or paint me as a bigot for not denying what my eyes tell me about the immutable reality (and beauty) of sex-based differences.

Typical right-wing propaganda.

So you can't refute this?

DP. What’s to refute? Democrats want to infantilize people. Republicans do not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

Speaking as a (non-Spanish speaking) foreigner, I have to add that many posters on here automatically equate immigrants with the left, thinking that they're all low-income and want a social safety net. Which many do, of course, but here the left is awash with social mores that are WAY OUT THERE compared to social mores elsewhere in the world... where we come from. In my western European country, with great affordable healthcare and worker protections, there'd be an uproar if we started talking about transgenderism and affirmative action and race reparations the way Americans do (granted, Europe doesn't have the same history of slavery on its own soil, but there's plenty of racism and gender discrimination going on). The left-wing in my country is not obsessed with discussing race and gender like people do here. I understand that progressives want everyone to feel secure and confident in their own identities! But it just seems so.. voyeuristic and prurient!

And I am a leftist myself. However I recognize, based on what made left-wing parties successful around the world, that here the left needs to insist on affordable medication, affordable and geographically accessible healthcare, a basic federal standard of education that's a little more elevated than the rock-bottom one you have, more worker protections... not LGBTQ+ and affirmative action stuff.

PP here. You get it. American-born Democrats talk exclusively to each other about us and then wonder why the nonsense they come up with doesn’t win us over. What the left over here had degraded into has left it completely unlike the left everywhere in the world. I mean the idea that I have to sign onto men in women’s prisons if I want affordable medication? No. No. No. They can keep all their handouts and their radical fascist transformation of society into something unrecognizable. We like strong families where I come from and I take it for granted that we should know exactly what’s being taught to our kids. We don’t believe in making middle-class business owners the enemy and cheering tenants cheating landlords. That’s crazy. That’s how the Soviet Union, Sandinistas, all sorts of horrible, murderous movements started. America will learn that only bad people with a terrible agenda demand top-down control and a forcible transformation of society that undermines the family and stigmatizes entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile strivers. They ALWAYS start out preaching class warfare and promising untold handouts. Then the handouts disappear and the cudgels appear. Most of us immigrants have already learned and gotten the tee shirts!

American Republicans are problematic, but they’re not trying to punish me for having worked my way from the bottom to a nice lifestyle and they’re not trying to get between me and my children or paint me as a bigot for not denying what my eyes tell me about the immutable reality (and beauty) of sex-based differences.

Typical right-wing propaganda.

Typical Democrat condescension and dishonesty. Goodness, why don’t we vote for you?

Judging by the results, we don’t really need you.

With this, you have given the thread starter his answer. You don’t want, need, or respect us and we’re very happy to vote against you. Everyone is happy. Go mix your own onions and I will mix mine. Done!

Are you a resident of Miami or even Florida?

[Anonymous]

Cubans.

Nothing to do with "socialism is Dems GOP spewing"

They are not stupid.

Abortion.

That said the younger Cubans are figuring it out. In another election cycle we will see a turn to Dems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

Speaking as a (non-Spanish speaking) foreigner, I have to add that many posters on here automatically equate immigrants with the left, thinking that they're all low-income and want a social safety net. Which many do, of course, but here the left is awash with social mores that are WAY OUT THERE compared to social mores elsewhere in the world... where we come from. In my western European country, with great affordable healthcare and worker protections, there'd be an uproar if we started talking about transgenderism and affirmative action and race reparations the way Americans do (granted, Europe doesn't have the same history of slavery on its own soil, but there's plenty of racism and gender discrimination going on). The left-wing in my country is not obsessed with discussing race and gender like people do here. I understand that progressives want everyone to feel secure and confident in their own identities! But it just seems so.. voyeuristic and prurient!

And I am a leftist myself. However I recognize, based on what made left-wing parties successful around the world, that here the left needs to insist on affordable medication, affordable and geographically accessible healthcare, a basic federal standard of education that's a little more elevated than the rock-bottom one you have, more worker protections... not LGBTQ+ and affirmative action stuff.

PP here. You get it. American-born Democrats talk exclusively to each other about us and then wonder why the nonsense they come up with doesn’t win us over. What the left over here had degraded into has left it completely unlike the left everywhere in the world. I mean the idea that I have to sign onto men in women’s prisons if I want affordable medication? No. No. No. They can keep all their handouts and their radical fascist transformation of society into something unrecognizable. We like strong families where I come from and I take it for granted that we should know exactly what’s being taught to our kids. We don’t believe in making middle-class business owners the enemy and cheering tenants cheating landlords. That’s crazy. That’s how the Soviet Union, Sandinistas, all sorts of horrible, murderous movements started. America will learn that only bad people with a terrible agenda demand top-down control and a forcible transformation of society that undermines the family and stigmatizes entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile strivers. They ALWAYS start out preaching class warfare and promising untold handouts. Then the handouts disappear and the cudgels appear. Most of us immigrants have already learned and gotten the tee shirts!

American Republicans are problematic, but they’re not trying to punish me for having worked my way from the bottom to a nice lifestyle and they’re not trying to get between me and my children or paint me as a bigot for not denying what my eyes tell me about the immutable reality (and beauty) of sex-based differences.

I think this is the crux. But the sound bites coming from the right exacerbate this and many people believe the Dem platform is way more focused on these issues than it really is. Trans people make up a tiny, tiny percentage and their suicide rates are much, much higher than the general population. Can we just try to treat a mistreated group of people nicely even if we don’t understand it?

Dems should take the move towards the right by Miami Dade very seriously and take steps to bridge the gap. I’m amazed that the fear of “Socialism” on the left (which isn’t a thing) isn’t far, far outweighed by the lean towards fascism and fraud on the Right which *only* has a fear-based platform with zero answers to the problems they keep screaming about.

Feel free to take your children to drag Queen story hours so that what you admit is a small part of the population will not commit suicide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

Speaking as a (non-Spanish speaking) foreigner, I have to add that many posters on here automatically equate immigrants with the left, thinking that they're all low-income and want a social safety net. Which many do, of course, but here the left is awash with social mores that are WAY OUT THERE compared to social mores elsewhere in the world... where we come from. In my western European country, with great affordable healthcare and worker protections, there'd be an uproar if we started talking about transgenderism and affirmative action and race reparations the way Americans do (granted, Europe doesn't have the same history of slavery on its own soil, but there's plenty of racism and gender discrimination going on). The left-wing in my country is not obsessed with discussing race and gender like people do here. I understand that progressives want everyone to feel secure and confident in their own identities! But it just seems so.. voyeuristic and prurient!

And I am a leftist myself. However I recognize, based on what made left-wing parties successful around the world, that here the left needs to insist on affordable medication, affordable and geographically accessible healthcare, a basic federal standard of education that's a little more elevated than the rock-bottom one you have, more worker protections... not LGBTQ+ and affirmative action stuff.

PP here. You get it. American-born Democrats talk exclusively to each other about us and then wonder why the nonsense they come up with doesn’t win us over. What the left over here had degraded into has left it completely unlike the left everywhere in the world. I mean the idea that I have to sign onto men in women’s prisons if I want affordable medication? No. No. No. They can keep all their handouts and their radical fascist transformation of society into something unrecognizable. We like strong families where I come from and I take it for granted that we should know exactly what’s being taught to our kids. We don’t believe in making middle-class business owners the enemy and cheering tenants cheating landlords. That’s crazy. That’s how the Soviet Union, Sandinistas, all sorts of horrible, murderous movements started. America will learn that only bad people with a terrible agenda demand top-down control and a forcible transformation of society that undermines the family and stigmatizes entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile strivers. They ALWAYS start out preaching class warfare and promising untold handouts. Then the handouts disappear and the cudgels appear. Most of us immigrants have already learned and gotten the tee shirts!

American Republicans are problematic, but they’re not trying to punish me for having worked my way from the bottom to a nice lifestyle and they’re not trying to get between me and my children or paint me as a bigot for not denying what my eyes tell me about the immutable reality (and beauty) of sex-based differences.

Typical right-wing propaganda.

Typical Democrat condescension and dishonesty. Goodness, why don’t we vote for you?

Judging by the results, we don’t really need you.

With this, you have given the thread starter his answer. You don’t want, need, or respect us and we’re very happy to vote against you. Everyone is happy. Go mix your own onions and I will mix mine. Done!

Don’t let the door hit ya…….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are tired of Latinx, gender theory, race obsession and the rest of the nonsense that white liberals try to foist on normal humans.

Speaking as an immigrant, this is exactly it. You can’t emotionally blackmail us into turning a blind eye to your nonsense ideologies. Men will never be women, we don’t want you teaching your victim mentality to our kids, and race means nothing to us because we actually have proud CULTURES to hold on to. Keep talking crap about us. We’re not African American and we don’t owe you anything just because you claim you voted for Obama.

Oh and those of us who speak English and are well educated are MORE conservative.

Speaking as a (non-Spanish speaking) foreigner, I have to add that many posters on here automatically equate immigrants with the left, thinking that they're all low-income and want a social safety net. Which many do, of course, but here the left is awash with social mores that are WAY OUT THERE compared to social mores elsewhere in the world... where we come from. In my western European country, with great affordable healthcare and worker protections, there'd be an uproar if we started talking about transgenderism and affirmative action and race reparations the way Americans do (granted, Europe doesn't have the same history of slavery on its own soil, but there's plenty of racism and gender discrimination going on). The left-wing in my country is not obsessed with discussing race and gender like people do here. I understand that progressives want everyone to feel secure and confident in their own identities! But it just seems so.. voyeuristic and prurient!

And I am a leftist myself. However I recognize, based on what made left-wing parties successful around the world, that here the left needs to insist on affordable medication, affordable and geographically accessible healthcare, a basic federal standard of education that's a little more elevated than the rock-bottom one you have, more worker protections... not LGBTQ+ and affirmative action stuff.

PP here. You get it. American-born Democrats talk exclusively to each other about us and then wonder why the nonsense they come up with doesn’t win us over. What the left over here had degraded into has left it completely unlike the left everywhere in the world. I mean the idea that I have to sign onto men in women’s prisons if I want affordable medication? No. No. No. They can keep all their handouts and their radical fascist transformation of society into something unrecognizable. We like strong families where I come from and I take it for granted that we should know exactly what’s being taught to our kids. We don’t believe in making middle-class business owners the enemy and cheering tenants cheating landlords. That’s crazy. That’s how the Soviet Union, Sandinistas, all sorts of horrible, murderous movements started. America will learn that only bad people with a terrible agenda demand top-down control and a forcible transformation of society that undermines the family and stigmatizes entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile strivers. They ALWAYS start out preaching class warfare and promising untold handouts. Then the handouts disappear and the cudgels appear. Most of us immigrants have already learned and gotten the tee shirts!

American Republicans are problematic, but they’re not trying to punish me for having worked my way from the bottom to a nice lifestyle and they’re not trying to get between me and my children or paint me as a bigot for not denying what my eyes tell me about the immutable reality (and beauty) of sex-based differences.

Typical right-wing propaganda.

So you can't refute this?

DP. What’s to refute? Democrats want to infantilize people. Republicans do not.

Republicans just assume you are all selfish bigots. Compare the candidates from the two parties, especially the Latin candidates. All the Democratic Latinos are trying to help people and their communities. All the Republican candidates are copying non-Latino white Republicans and promising to keep some other group down and lock them up. Vote for us, we will be a$$holes to the groups of people you don’t like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cubans.

Nothing to do with "socialism is Dems GOP spewing"

They are not stupid.

Abortion.

That said the younger Cubans are figuring it out. In another election cycle we will see a turn to Dems.

You refuse to understand that we don’t care about party. We care about issues. Democrats have turned away from the issues that won over Latinos and immigrants and you will keep losing us until you find your way back.

This predatory tactic where you try to cut the younger generation off from the older generation to indoctrinate them is not going to work on Latinos. Our families are too strong. I’m 32 years old and I’ve been voting Republican for 6 years now. I flirted with Democrats when I was in college, but by the time I left corporate America after 8 years, I was voting Republican. At the end of the day, I want to raise a family, start a business, and keep my cultural ties. White liberals don’t have anything to offer me.

[Anonymous]

I think the “illegal immigration” misinformation spread by the right is key here as well. The right has figured out how to play on the elitism of immigrants and second generation Americans by vilifying migrants arriving now. See also DeSantis’s horrific stunt.

Racism and elitism exists in every culture and the right messages in a way that speaks to this. Never mind that Trump et al are white nationalists and think any non aryan is subhuman. As long as the right manipulate folks into voting for them, that’s all that matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cubans.

Nothing to do with "socialism is Dems GOP spewing"

They are not stupid.

Abortion.

That said the younger Cubans are figuring it out. In another election cycle we will see a turn to Dems.

You refuse to understand that we don’t care about party. We care about issues. Democrats have turned away from the issues that won over Latinos and immigrants and you will keep losing us until you find your way back.

This predatory tactic where you try to cut the younger generation off from the older generation to indoctrinate them is not going to work on Latinos. Our families are too strong. I’m 32 years old and I’ve been voting Republican for 6 years now. I flirted with Democrats when I was in college, but by the time I left corporate America after 8 years, I was voting Republican. At the end of the day, I want to raise a family, start a business, and keep my cultural ties. White liberals don’t have anything to offer me.

You’re just parroting talking points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the “illegal immigration” misinformation spread by the right is key here as well. The right has figured out how to play on the elitism of immigrants and second generation Americans by vilifying migrants arriving now. See also DeSantis’s horrific stunt.

Racism and elitism exists in every culture and the right messages in a way that speaks to this. Never mind that Trump et al are white nationalists and think any non aryan is subhuman. As long as the right manipulate folks into voting for them, that’s all that matter.

We don’t care what they think about us. I didn’t vote for Republicans because I want to hang out with Republicans. I didn’t vote for Democrats because I want to hang out with Democrats. All this childish “they don’t like you“ nonsense that works on African Americans doesn’t work on us. We don’t care. Have you considered that most of us immigrants don’t feel comfortable with born Americans? Maybe, just maybe, we don’t like a lot of you on either side. So what?