Yeah, but Samanta Brick was genuinely a sad person. I felt very sorry for her. |
+1 and insecure self-serving narcissistic psychobable... but sometimes you have to pick through the weeds to find the flowers. |
This is so on the money I can't emphasize it any more. How come you never hear heterosexual men say "I have difficulty making friends with men, I get along much better with women?" |
Sorry, second poster had it right. People like OP are space cadets who somehow think they are special. |
Women are their own worst enemy. |
Writes a misogynistic man or self hating woman. |
OMG, no wonder OP doesn't have women friends! Some of you are awful, awful human beings. I guess she was unlucky enough to only meet women like you!
OP, I hear you about not having much in common with other women. To others: it is not always about interests and hobbies. Many people are in different places in their lives, and it is impossible to relate to most other females. This happens, and this does not necessarily means OP is a self-centered insecure snowflake. Stop being so mean! |
So no other woman within 100 miles of OP is in the same or similar place that she is? Yet all the men around her are? Okay sure. Seems like more excuse making and poor excuse making at that. Oh and that's not OP's reasoning at all. But let's all sy it's the other women or nothing to do with OP because that's Mean. The societal conditioning is astounding in the replies to this post on so many levels. |
I dunno. It's so much easier to talk to guys. There's less pressure for me to be a certain way. All I have to do is be myself and joke around and we become friends. With girls I always feel like they are trying to judge me or place me in a box. I'm just not fluent in female social politics. I'm a loner, I don't have a gaggle of girlfriends so I just can't relate. |
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I'm going to try to offer some advice, though I don't have the same problem as OP. OP, you talk about not relating to your husband's friends' wives, but maybe that is one of the problems. I haven't liked some of my husband's friends' wives at all, not because they are women, but because we had nothing in common and had personalities that might not mesh well. I don't hang out with those women, and it's not a big deal. I can go to a dinner with them, but those women are not going to be my best friends. I bet this is not that unusual. I wouldn't judge your ability to relate to women on those encounters.
What you might want to do if you do want a group of female friends is to think of something that interests you and join a Meetup group. For example, if you like rock climbing, go join a group with women and try your hand at it. It might be awkward at first because I think you have kind of developed some sort of anxiety about this, but if you force yourself to try to engage with women with similar interests, it might help. Then you can see who you are most compatible with. And you need to have an open mind about this. One last thing - I have given up on a cohesive group of female friends like I had when I was younger. I have some very, very good female friends, but they aren't really friends with each other. It bothers me not to have some sort of little community where everyone is close, but I am accepting that this is good too - to have independent friendships that are deep and meaningful. Hope this helps! |
| PP here - just a note that I don't sit around judging other women on some sort of unknown female social handbook. There might be some women like that, but none of my friends are like that at all. So you should be more openminded about this and not assume other women are busy judging you. |
Yes, some women are in a place where none of their acquaintances are. If you have difficulty imagining that, I envy you. Men live in a different emotional universe, so yes, it may be easier to relate to some of them. |
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I'm a man -- so, biased. But male friendships just look so much easier. You give each other (mostly) good natured crap. You joke about superficial things like bodily functions. You don't worry too much about each other's feelings and don't expect anyone to worry too much about your. When you talk about serious stuff, you do it at a level of abstraction that's less likely to be taken personally (think national politics rather than the neighborhood association.)
That's not to say these friendships are better. They can fail to get very deep. But I can see where some women might find this type of social interaction more comfortable than what might be readily available among people they know. |
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A random DH... can I crash this thread?
I can relate to the OP. I have friends from when I was a kid, but making friends life is harder as life gets busier, people are more discriminate who they invest time in, some people get socially polarized by hobbies/religion... so many reasons! Regards, sexes, I find converstations and getting to know guys harder work cause the coventional topics of sports, cars, etc are of little intetrest to me. There doesn't have to be anything wrong with you, but if this is making you anxious... it's worth soul searching why. |
From the manual on "how to win any argument" by demonizing every other group/race/gender/etc. |