Yet another GOP shutdown?

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Anonymous wrote:Another nail in the coffin for the Democrats, Jeffries is awful. They aren't doing anything to help them regain popularity after their disastrous Kamala run.

The Dems should not help the GOP. It makes them unpopular to help bail the GOP out. Let Americans get what they voted for!

^ example of a misread of the public mood

We aren't misreading shit. This is 100% a GOP shutdown and those who voted for the GOP need to know that and learn from their mistakes.

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Trump scuttled the bipartisan bill. He owns the shutdown, but you think he'd grasp that these deals are a negotiation. He fails to grasp this and suffers from the belief that others will bend to his will when they have no reason to do so. His main objective seems to be raising the ceiling to give billionaires more tax breaks which is a hard sell with most of us.

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Anonymous wrote:I also find it hilarious that the republicans now want the debt ceiling lifted when they were so opposed to that in the past. Trump/Musk should let the legislators legislate and not make 11th hour demands.

Sorry, this is what America voted for utter chaos and gross incompetence.

We voted for an end to all this bloated spending.

Did you? Because last time your team was in charge of everything we accumulated 25% of our national debt.

+1. I think that poster means they voted for the bloated spending.

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Anonymous wrote:What a wonderful start to President Musk’s administration. This is certainly a harbinger of great things to come.

President Musk is President Musk again!

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Anonymous wrote:Most Americans will remember this one as the Biden/Harris shutdown since they are the President and Vice President.

It's on them.

Wrong. It's well known that there was a deal in place and that Musk killed it. Keep dreaming, it ain't happening.

Well, Dems have the WH and the Senate so they are in control and they have the power until January 20 so Dems own this one thanks to Biden.

I realize you’re trolling but at least try to be accurate. The new Congress convenes January 3. Johnson will have even fewer Republican votes to lose.

PP isn’t trolling but pointing out who is in office TODAY when this is all happening. Hint: it’s not the new congress and Trump.

Yes. It’s Johnson who is speaker of the House, which is where appropriations bills originate. Seems he didn’t get around to it.

A bill was just put forward that Dems shot down. Guess they want a shutdown.

But again, this is Biden’s term and a shutdown is occurring on his watch. He should get busy.

You’re not well informed. It was a bipartisan bill that was expected to pass with Dem support until Musk blew it up with the intention of Gov shut down. Musk isn’t in Congress. He doesn’t have a vote. He cannot manipulate an already accepted bill. Don’t you get it? Musk wants a shut down. MAGA wants a shut down because their base is stupid enough to blame it on Biden. The President does not control Congress. Yet, the DOGE dickhead and his hollow puppet president elect do not have the power to influence the vote. It’s unconstitutional. Johnson is a beta.

lol I’m perfectly well informed. Elon doesn’t have a vote like you said, he is a private citizen like many who raised their voices and said enough! Enough of the massive pork laden spending bills forced in under emergency terms and if that causes a shutdown, then too bad. Operations need to change. Get it?

Looks like Biden has canceled his holiday in Delaware and returned to DC to do his job so that’s good. He is still the president. This shut down is happening under his watch.

Nope. It’s happening under Johnson’s watch. He is the SOH. Biden is POTUS. They have separate duties and responsibilities. Johnson’s duty is to get an appropriation bill through Congress. Biden’s job is to veto or approve such bill once it’s placed on his desk. The freaking end.

Your using pretty big words for MAGA

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Anonymous wrote:Most Americans will remember this one as the Biden/Harris shutdown since they are the President and Vice President.

It's on them.

Wrong. It's well known that there was a deal in place and that Musk killed it. Keep dreaming, it ain't happening.

Well, Dems have the WH and the Senate so they are in control and they have the power until January 20 so Dems own this one thanks to Biden.

I realize you’re trolling but at least try to be accurate. The new Congress convenes January 3. Johnson will have even fewer Republican votes to lose.

PP isn’t trolling but pointing out who is in office TODAY when this is all happening. Hint: it’s not the new congress and Trump.

Yes. It’s Johnson who is speaker of the House, which is where appropriations bills originate. Seems he didn’t get around to it.

A bill was just put forward that Dems shot down. Guess they want a shutdown.

But again, this is Biden’s term and a shutdown is occurring on his watch. He should get busy.

You’re not well informed. It was a bipartisan bill that was expected to pass with Dem support until Musk blew it up with the intention of Gov shut down. Musk isn’t in Congress. He doesn’t have a vote. He cannot manipulate an already accepted bill. Don’t you get it? Musk wants a shut down. MAGA wants a shut down because their base is stupid enough to blame it on Biden. The President does not control Congress. Yet, the DOGE dickhead and his hollow puppet president elect do not have the power to influence the vote. It’s unconstitutional. Johnson is a beta.

lol I’m perfectly well informed. Elon doesn’t have a vote like you said, he is a private citizen like many who raised their voices and said enough! Enough of the massive pork laden spending bills forced in under emergency terms and if that causes a shutdown, then too bad. Operations need to change. Get it?

Looks like Biden has canceled his holiday in Delaware and returned to DC to do his job so that’s good. He is still the president. This shut down is happening under his watch.

Nope. It’s happening under Johnson’s watch. He is the SOH. Biden is POTUS. They have separate duties and responsibilities. Johnson’s duty is to get an appropriation bill through Congress. Biden’s job is to veto or approve such bill once it’s placed on his desk. The freaking end.

Your using pretty big words for MAGA

you're I mean

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Anonymous wrote:Another nail in the coffin for the Democrats, Jeffries is awful. They aren't doing anything to help them regain popularity after their disastrous Kamala run.

The Dems should not help the GOP. It makes them unpopular to help bail the GOP out. Let Americans get what they voted for!

^ example of a misread of the public mood

We aren't misreading shit. This is 100% a GOP shutdown and those who voted for the GOP need to know that and learn from their mistakes.

Honestly doesn’t matter who is blamed. We are two years from any election.

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Anonymous wrote:Another nail in the coffin for the Democrats, Jeffries is awful. They aren't doing anything to help them regain popularity after their disastrous Kamala run.

The Dems should not help the GOP. It makes them unpopular to help bail the GOP out. Let Americans get what they voted for!

^ example of a misread of the public mood

We aren't misreading shit. This is 100% a GOP shutdown and those who voted for the GOP need to know that and learn from their mistakes.

Honestly doesn’t matter who is blamed. We are two years from any election.

Get real. Trump is itching to blame Biden and the Democratic Party for suspending the debt ceiling. If Trump wants to suspend the debt ceiling he can push for that after he is inaugurated.

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It's so funny that MAGA wants to pin this on Biden (lol) when Elon is out there beating his chest over it.

The headlines speak for themselves too.

And it's all over social media that MAGA stripped funding for childhood cancer to give Elon pork for his China dealings.

Love to see it.

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Anonymous wrote:Another nail in the coffin for the Democrats, Jeffries is awful. They aren't doing anything to help them regain popularity after their disastrous Kamala run.

The Dems should not help the GOP. It makes them unpopular to help bail the GOP out. Let Americans get what they voted for!

^ example of a misread of the public mood

We aren't misreading shit. This is 100% a GOP shutdown and those who voted for the GOP need to know that and learn from their mistakes.

Honestly doesn’t matter who is blamed. We are two years from any election.

Yes, because it will be smooth sailing for the next two years :D

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Anonymous wrote:Another nail in the coffin for the Democrats, Jeffries is awful. They aren't doing anything to help them regain popularity after their disastrous Kamala run.

Dems on this board seem to think the populist mood in this country translates to a desire to pass a pork laden bill for business as usual and that people will care if the federal government shuts down to change things. This type of massive disconnect with the public is why Harris lost.

After the Trump years and multiple shutdowns, including the longest shutdown ever, they've lost their power. No one cares anymore, which means the deadline, tonight, has lost its power.

This isn't a good thing - in case you are confused. It's just more destruction of norms, increase in dysfunction.

The norm is 1500 page bills full of tucked in, kept in the dark spending. That’s a norm that needs to be destroyed.

You guys are clueless. A continuing resolution just combines all the appropriation bills they were supposed to enact before October 1. It’s not new content. It’s the stuff they were supposed to be doing all year long. Any Member who doesn’t understand what is in a continuing resolution should resign for total incompetence. This bill has been the main item on the House agenda since September.

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Anonymous wrote:Now Trump wants to suspend the “ridiculous” debt ceiling until 2029 or forever.

Unclear how this squares with getting down government spending.

Its all completely absurd.

The Art of the Deal.

In and amongst the bankruptcies, lawsuits, and felony fraud, he's an excellent businessman and dealmaker. As we see.

What is excellent about this situation?

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I guess there are not MAGAs whose kids have or might get cancer?

Killing this bill cut $190M from pediatric cancer research.

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Johnson can either (1) use the "mandate" to pass the CR with Republican votes or (2) negotiate with Democrats to put together a bill that can pass (which has already been done). Expecting that (3) the Democrats should vote to pass something that they don't have input on makes no sense. Even as such, it's not clear right now what Musk will formally approve.

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Anonymous wrote:Another nail in the coffin for the Democrats, Jeffries is awful. They aren't doing anything to help them regain popularity after their disastrous Kamala run.

The Dems should not help the GOP. It makes them unpopular to help bail the GOP out. Let Americans get what they voted for!

^ example of a misread of the public mood

We aren't misreading shit. This is 100% a GOP shutdown and those who voted for the GOP need to know that and learn from their mistakes.

What mistake?